Was he in the right to save his life?
Or wrong to damage uncle sams property?
Bad messaging to our war fighters?
Or wrong to damage uncle sams property?
Bad messaging to our war fighters?
Marine Pilot fired for ejection.
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medic vacs never get denied with guys bleeding out...... Helicopter> joe snuffies life.... Every time this is no different
Well from what I understand he ejected due to electrical failure. Aircraft flight controls and backup instruments were fully functional. Absolutely no reason to eject.
Once lost flight instruments right after takeoff. Declared a mayday, ran the pattern at an altitude and air speed as best I could estimate. turned base and final, dropped it in, plenty fast, got her stopped easily taxied over to the repair hanger and presented my sick bird. FIX IT!
Had no ejection seat. Had to fly her in.
Had no ejection seat. Had to fly her in.
I under stand. I remember reading the report on the Raptor pilot that was up over 50k when the O2 generator failed and he went hypoxic before he got the back up bottle on.
Called it Pilot error for not identifiying a system failure and responding properly, cost him his life when he hit the ground at 1.8Mach.
I haven't looked to hard into this was was curious if some one knew in a little more detail what happened. I could understand punishment but firing him. Machine can be replaced.
When they say fired, understand this guy was ye CO of his squadron. He’ll yes they fired him. Standards are high. His standard is even higher.
Why i am asking, know there are some pilots in here.
After 30 years of service does he still get his retirement, benifits etc?
No reason to give him a $100,000,000 second chance. Might as well give that chance to a new kid who ain't fucked up yet. We only got so many of these things. Being provided one to fly by the taxpayer is not a right.
Marine pilot loses command after ejecting from F-35B that kept flying
Col. Charles "Tre" Del Pizzo said the commandant of the Marine Corps ordered his removal from command after reviewing the crash investigation.
www.marinecorpstimes.com
Not watching the 18 minute video but I remember this event and most of the press releases.
Maybe the video covers it but the comments in this thread don't mention the weather and visibility issue at the time.
In addition to the electrical issue, I believe he was in some pretty bad weather with zero visibility due to rain. He suffered pretty bad spatial disorientation and with the compromised electrical issues didn't even trust his backup analog readings.
Not saying he was right or wrong. Just acknowledging that it was a bit more spicy than just an electrical issue.
Maybe the video covers it but the comments in this thread don't mention the weather and visibility issue at the time.
In addition to the electrical issue, I believe he was in some pretty bad weather with zero visibility due to rain. He suffered pretty bad spatial disorientation and with the compromised electrical issues didn't even trust his backup analog readings.
Not saying he was right or wrong. Just acknowledging that it was a bit more spicy than just an electrical issue.
They almost always come to the conclusion it was pilot error.
When in USAF, knew the wife of a guy whose T-39 Sabreliner’s battery blew up and took the plane down over open water in the Pacific. Finding…pilot error.
She fought it but lost.
Blaming the pilot is the CYA easy button
When in USAF, knew the wife of a guy whose T-39 Sabreliner’s battery blew up and took the plane down over open water in the Pacific. Finding…pilot error.
She fought it but lost.
Blaming the pilot is the CYA easy button
Yeah, like when John McCain aircraft accidently launched a weapon, starting a fire that killed 134 men on the Forestall. It helps when daddy has stars on his collar.
I mean as much as I hated McCain, that has been debunked. Yes he was on the forrestal but there is no empirical evidence proving he was on deck at the time or that the missle came from his aircraft.
Has anyone been held accountable yet for that shit show in Afghanistan?
All I can say it surely is a changed world.
When I served it was the US Army against any and everyone in the entire world. If you had short hair and were white, yu were the considerted the most vile, baby skewering evil being that ever walked the face of the earth. That said, the ranks pulled together, make a mistake, it was not ignored, but every effort was made to make it (legitimately) right and let’s move on. (In general, really fuck up and well, we usually had to resolve that. My Lai 4 is on my mind this morning. Lots of bad happened there, lots)
In today’s world where the politicians (read eastern political elite) not the civilians, not the military run the military, and the high ranking generals tend to lick the eastern political elite’s feet, sneeze wrong and the shit hits the fan.
When I served it was the US Army against any and everyone in the entire world. If you had short hair and were white, yu were the considerted the most vile, baby skewering evil being that ever walked the face of the earth. That said, the ranks pulled together, make a mistake, it was not ignored, but every effort was made to make it (legitimately) right and let’s move on. (In general, really fuck up and well, we usually had to resolve that. My Lai 4 is on my mind this morning. Lots of bad happened there, lots)
In today’s world where the politicians (read eastern political elite) not the civilians, not the military run the military, and the high ranking generals tend to lick the eastern political elite’s feet, sneeze wrong and the shit hits the fan.
I don't think the Pilot of the Corn Field bomber was fired.
John McCain Lost 2 aircraft before he was shot down over Hanoi.
Hell i remember my Grandpa telling me a story while out on a training flight early in his career. A local farm called the base and complained about pilots flying very low over his fields. When they landed were met and got their asses chewed for having hay on one of the struts.
While i understand the need for excellence. This was a 30 year highly experienced pilot, just seem like a bad look to me.
Times they seem to be changing.
I was actually thinking beyond this incident. Our son had to be extra careful. Small infractions, were taken very seriously. Not so small infractions such as being stopped for DWI, was the end of your career. Not relived of command, pack your bags, your a civilian now kind of end your career. Will’s CO got sacked for this. The entire wing got punished. They had nothing to do with it.
Now I am not one to promote driving while intoxicated, having lost friends and relatives to drunk drivers, but in our army, they actively worked to get us drunk, mixed drinks that cost a dime will do that. Another example. A fellow was late returning from leave. Sent a letter making the request, but foolishly made no effort to verify that it had been approved. Arrived late. CO asked if he had actually sent the letter, he actually had and replied so. CO said, Ok, and that was the end of that.
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