Training Your Replacement

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    The latest story on immigration is that Musk and Ramaswamy want to increase the number of visas and lift green card restrictions for immigrants skilled in the tech sector.

    It's not really about hiring the best and brightest from other countries it's all about getting cheaper foreign labor and firing American workers.


    The video starts at 5:00 however for the first part he talks about the feminazis and some women going back to traditional gender roles. He uses that as a segue into the H1B visa controversy.

    To get right into the H1B visas story, skip ahead to the 1:12 (1 HR 12 Minute) mark.

     
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    Dear Vivek Ramaswamy, my counter take…

    Several years ago, Florida Power and Light won the prestigious international Edward Demming Award for excellence in multi-platform engineering, efficiency superiority and total quality in the process of energy management.

    However, the scruffy rednecks did not blow every PhD intellectual out of the water with slide rules, CAD programs, articulated and quantified quality improvement processes and engineering acumen. They did it with hard hats and dirty fingernails.

    Because they lost the award, the jaw-agape Japanese spent 6 months visiting and reviewing FPL and later published a 1,000-page study essentially saying FPL “wasn’t really good, they were just lucky.”

    You see, the reviewers couldn’t actually quantify the reason why the Florida-based energy company was so successful. In response the FPL field leadership laughed, took out magic markers and wrote on the back of their hard hats: “WE’RE NOT GOOD, WE’RE RUCKY.”

    A few years later, every single Kuwaiti oil field was blown up by Saddam Hussein. Global analysts and think-tanks proclaimed it would take 5 years to cap them all off and restart the Kuwait oil pumping industry. Well, the Kuwaiti’s and Saudi’s called Texans, who had them all capped and back in working order in 6 months.

    We are a nation that knows how to get shit done.

    A few more years pass, and the Northern Chile mine workers were trapped two miles underground. The eyes of the world began to tear as the word spread. Most began to whisper no one could save them. Who did they call for help? A bunch of hick miners from USA coal country who went down there, worked on the fly, engineered the rescue equipment on site, and saved every one of them.

    Yup, that’s our America. Ingenuity born from freedom.

    Across the pond a half-breed Islamic whack job, armed with an AK-47 and a goal to meet his virgins, began opening fire on a train in France. The scruffneck Americans on board didn’t run to the nearest safe room and hide themselves amid baguettes and brie. They said, “let’s go”, and beat the stuffing out of that little nut with a death wish.

    Legion d’Honneur or not, that’s us. WE ARE AMERICANS! That’s just how we roll.

    In fact, Lady Liberty can stroll along the Champs-Elysées with a swagger befitting Mae West because without her arrival, they’d be speaking German in the Louvre. Yet, for the better part of the past decade, a group of intellectual leftists have been teaching our children that it’s better to be sitting around a campfire eating sustainable algae cakes and picking parasites off each other; because ‘save the planet’, or something similarly minded. It would appear, they hate the outcomes and inequities from freedom.

    Warmest regards,

    Americans First!
     


    I bet the guy that buys a drug that's failed several times to only dump shares before it fails again totally isn't a piece of fucking shit.

    I'm a software engineer. We don't need more H1Bs.

    Also, is anyone able to explain how Elon wasn't able to list the stack Twitter uses/used when he was having that twitter call with software engineers when he bought the company out? Isn't he a super genius computer man? Isn't he some turbo aspie guy too? That person would buy Twitter, suggest a full rewrite, and then not even be able to name the stack it uses and instead just insult the person who asked the question? Makes a lot of sense. Checks out! Mars any day now!
     
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    Dear Vivek Ramaswamy, my counter take…

    Several years ago, Florida Power and Light won the prestigious international Edward Demming Award for excellence in multi-platform engineering, efficiency superiority and total quality in the process of energy management.

    However, the scruffy rednecks did not blow every PhD intellectual out of the water with slide rules, CAD programs, articulated and quantified quality improvement processes and engineering acumen. They did it with hard hats and dirty fingernails.

    Because they lost the award, the jaw-agape Japanese spent 6 months visiting and reviewing FPL and later published a 1,000-page study essentially saying FPL “wasn’t really good, they were just lucky.”

    You see, the reviewers couldn’t actually quantify the reason why the Florida-based energy company was so successful. In response the FPL field leadership laughed, took out magic markers and wrote on the back of their hard hats: “WE’RE NOT GOOD, WE’RE RUCKY.”

    A few years later, every single Kuwaiti oil field was blown up by Saddam Hussein. Global analysts and think-tanks proclaimed it would take 5 years to cap them all off and restart the Kuwait oil pumping industry. Well, the Kuwaiti’s and Saudi’s called Texans, who had them all capped and back in working order in 6 months.

    We are a nation that knows how to get shit done.

    A few more years pass, and the Northern Chile mine workers were trapped two miles underground. The eyes of the world began to tear as the word spread. Most began to whisper no one could save them. Who did they call for help? A bunch of hick miners from USA coal country who went down there, worked on the fly, engineered the rescue equipment on site, and saved every one of them.

    Yup, that’s our America. Ingenuity born from freedom.

    Across the pond a half-breed Islamic whack job, armed with an AK-47 and a goal to meet his virgins, began opening fire on a train in France. The scruffneck Americans on board didn’t run to the nearest safe room and hide themselves amid baguettes and brie. They said, “let’s go”, and beat the stuffing out of that little nut with a death wish.

    Legion d’Honneur or not, that’s us. WE ARE AMERICANS! That’s just how we roll.

    In fact, Lady Liberty can stroll along the Champs-Elysées with a swagger befitting Mae West because without her arrival, they’d be speaking German in the Louvre. Yet, for the better part of the past decade, a group of intellectual leftists have been teaching our children that it’s better to be sitting around a campfire eating sustainable algae cakes and picking parasites off each other; because ‘save the planet’, or something similarly minded. It would appear, they hate the outcomes and inequities from freedom.

    Warmest regards,

    Americans First!
    Sundance at CTH does have some solid takes.
     
    This is a jaw-dropping moment to watch unfold as a very influential sector of the political discourse begins a full-frontal attack against those who are pointing out how the tech community abuse H1B visas to replace American workers. In the background, of course, is the context of widespread immigration policy fraud being one of the priorities for the average Trump supporter.
    When it is pointed out that Silicon Valley discriminates against white Americans with engineering degrees and or skills, Silicon Valley shouts back the same arguments as the DEI promoters Musk claims to abhor. Musk and the tech group immediately use the Alinsky attack method (isolate, ridicule, marginalize) against anyone who speaks forcefully against their interests. The Musk allies and influencers then pile on. It is something remarkable to watch happen.
    https://theconservativetreehouse.co...cumented-h1b-visa-fraud-explodes/#more-267676
     
    1) Common theme among American workers - I can do this better remote. If a job can be done 1 mile away it can be done thousands of miles away.
    2) Hire foreign workers then - no reason to issue work visas - let the foreign workers do it remotely
    3) If can be done remote - can AI do it?
    4) Don't learn to code - learn plumbing!
     
    1) Common theme among American workers - I can do this better remote. If a job can be done 1 mile away it can be done thousands of miles away.
    2) Hire foreign workers then - no reason to issue work visas - let the foreign workers do it remotely
    3) If can be done remote - can AI do it?
    4) Don't learn to code - learn plumbing!
    Even when a job can only be done by a present worker, if it’s simple but mind numbing, someone will usually do it for less. Laziness drives most people’s life decisions.
     
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    Carrying a heavy personal debt load just makes one a slave. Gotta stay employed at all costs just to pay off debt, even if it means training your replacement, taking a clot shot, etc. The end result is the same as if one refused such edicts in the first place. Disabled, no job, can't pay off debt, lose the nice things that weren't paid off yet.

    Just imagine the feeling of freedom if you have little to no debt load. If a globalist minded employer wants you to train your replacement or get a clot shot, you can quickly tell them to eff-off and just walk away. The scamdemic wouldn't have gotten nowhere close to the extremes we saw if we were a nation of savers versus being a nation of debtors.
     
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    We cannot have a "real" discussion on employment, H1Bs, immigrants, etc. until the US ends all the safety nets that allow working age Americans to sit out the job market. Take away all forms of welfare by whatever name (end corporate welfare, incentives, subsidies, etc. also!). Currently, too many prime working age (18-54) adults are not in the job market which leads to all types of H1B and other abuses. It also encourages industry toward the "Skynet" of AI and automation.
     
    we did lots of offshoring and train your replacement going back 20 years, but coding was always dominated by indians, even if it was in house.
    i sort of assumed they have the right kind of mindset for that sort of work. i don't think i would want to do it.
    i suppose it trickles out to project managers that might have an easier time working with the coders...and so on...

    i suspect ai will take over that sort of tedious work. we are already using it at work for intelligent call routing.
     
    I tend to think that's what happened to us on Wall St. right after the 2008 Mortgage Crisis. My own company started to off shore a lot of work. And, for the purely tech stuff (i.e. where you really didn't need "business knowledge" or be able to interface with business users, they got rid of the high earning white folks quickly. I was one of them. Had I stayed with my original business unit, I might have lasted longer there. At least, I stayed longer than that a$$hole boss of mine that drove me out of the unit. He was gone 4 months before me!

    Then again, I was looking to go anyway. I wanted to start my own business and do what I did for the firm, with the public. And, TBH, the stress of working on Wall St was starting to affect me medically. So, it was probably a good idea that I "engineered" my departure. I don't regret it one bit. And now that I see what's happened there, it was probably the right call. It's funny. I actually went back to interview with the boss who had replaced my old a$$hole one to see if I could come back. The one fellow who was my chief competitor there gave me some very nasty looks when he saw me, like he was afraid I might return (he was Bulgarian, BTW, not Indian).

    No, I didn't "train my replacement." They already knew my job. But it's OK. It was a decent severance pkg (12 years) and it allowed me to take some time off before I went to start my business.
     
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    A fantastic series of videos on India, indian culture and the impact of Indian migration west by an Indian.

    It is a thread of many clips so keep scrolling past ads etc.

     
    Kind of prefer this :
    Dear Vivek Ramaswamy, my counter take…

    Several years ago, Florida Power and Light won the prestigious international Edward Demming Award for excellence in multi-platform engineering, efficiency superiority and total quality in the process of energy management.

    However, the scruffy rednecks did not blow every PhD intellectual out of the water with slide rules, CAD programs, articulated and quantified quality improvement processes and engineering acumen. They did it with hard hats and dirty fingernails.

    Because they lost the award, the jaw-agape Japanese spent 6 months visiting and reviewing FPL and later published a 1,000-page study essentially saying FPL “wasn’t really good, they were just lucky.”

    You see, the reviewers couldn’t actually quantify the reason why the Florida-based energy company was so successful. In response the FPL field leadership laughed, took out magic markers and wrote on the back of their hard hats: “WE’RE NOT GOOD, WE’RE RUCKY.”

    A few years later, every single Kuwaiti oil field was blown up by Saddam Hussein. Global analysts and think-tanks proclaimed it would take 5 years to cap them all off and restart the Kuwait oil pumping industry. Well, the Kuwaiti’s and Saudi’s called Texans, who had them all capped and back in working order in 6 months.

    We are a nation that knows how to get shit done.

    A few more years pass, and the Northern Chile mine workers were trapped two miles underground. The eyes of the world began to tear as the word spread. Most began to whisper no one could save them. Who did they call for help? A bunch of hick miners from USA coal country who went down there, worked on the fly, engineered the rescue equipment on site, and saved every one of them.

    Yup, that’s our America. Ingenuity born from freedom.

    Across the pond a half-breed Islamic whack job, armed with an AK-47 and a goal to meet his virgins, began opening fire on a train in France. The scruffneck Americans on board didn’t run to the nearest safe room and hide themselves amid baguettes and brie. They said, “let’s go”, and beat the stuffing out of that little nut with a death wish.

    Legion d’Honneur or not, that’s us. WE ARE AMERICANS! That’s just how we roll.

    In fact, Lady Liberty can stroll along the Champs-Elysées with a swagger befitting Mae West because without her arrival, they’d be speaking German in the Louvre. Yet, for the better part of the past decade, a group of intellectual leftists have been teaching our children that it’s better to be sitting around a campfire eating sustainable algae cakes and picking parasites off each other; because ‘save the planet’, or something similarly minded. It would appear, they hate the outcomes and inequities from freedom.

    Warmest regards,

    Americans First!
    Nuclear weapons, made by fat lazy uneducated Americans,,,,, ,Tested in Japan. That's all you need to know about US v Asia.
     
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    They don't grade "on the curve" anymore? :rolleyes:

    Curves are fucking bullshit too.
    The teachers need to actuality be able and willing to teach.

    The grade you earned is the grade you get.
    This lowest common denominator shit is why no-one comes out of school knowing anything.


    Why put in the effort if those that don't, also pass the course.

    Sounds like socialism
     
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    Curves are fucking bullshit too.
    The teachers need to actuality be able and willing to teach.

    The grade you earned is the grade you get.
    This lowest common denominator shit is why no-one comes out of school knowing anything.


    Why put in the effort if those that don't, also pass the course.

    Sounds like socialism

    My college professors did it all the time. They weren't about to turn in a string of bad grades (i.e. all "F"s) as Univ. deans would fault the professor for that. In fact, I had one prof (who failed to get tenure as he didn't do a lot of "research" projects) for his last class (which I was in), did not give any grades below "C." Some of the profs event went so far as to create "distribution scatter charts" with a "median score" etc. which determined where the grade lines were going to lie (i.e. which range distribution was "A", which was "B" etc. down to "F"). Woe be unto you if you were actually "smart," and "F'ed" up the curve by getting a score close to 100%.
     
    And that's exactly what's wrong (along with a host of other things) with our education system.

    Nobody is learning anything. It's all about the final grade so the teacher looks good.

    And yeah, 2/3 of my step kids actually earned straight A's.

    Both were pissed off because they worked for their grades and it was given to the others without any effort.

    Sounds like union work too. Doesn't matter how good you are, or how much you do. Bobby gets the same paycheck.
     
    And that's exactly what's wrong (along with a host of other things) with our education system.

    Nobody is learning anything. It's all about the final grade so the teacher looks good.

    And yeah, 2/3 of my step kids actually earned straight A's.

    Both were pissed off because they worked for their grades and it was given to the others without any effort.

    Sounds like union work too. Doesn't matter how good you are, or how much you do. Bobby gets the same paycheck.
    I've heard there is a link to dollars available and test scores.

    R
     
    Kind of prefer this :
    Dear Vivek Ramaswamy, my counter take…

    Several years ago, Florida Power and Light won the prestigious international Edward Demming Award for excellence in multi-platform engineering, efficiency superiority and total quality in the process of energy management.

    However, the scruffy rednecks did not blow every PhD intellectual out of the water with slide rules, CAD programs, articulated and quantified quality improvement processes and engineering acumen. They did it with hard hats and dirty fingernails.

    Because they lost the award, the jaw-agape Japanese spent 6 months visiting and reviewing FPL and later published a 1,000-page study essentially saying FPL “wasn’t really good, they were just lucky.”

    You see, the reviewers couldn’t actually quantify the reason why the Florida-based energy company was so successful. In response the FPL field leadership laughed, took out magic markers and wrote on the back of their hard hats: “WE’RE NOT GOOD, WE’RE RUCKY.”

    A few years later, every single Kuwaiti oil field was blown up by Saddam Hussein. Global analysts and think-tanks proclaimed it would take 5 years to cap them all off and restart the Kuwait oil pumping industry. Well, the Kuwaiti’s and Saudi’s called Texans, who had them all capped and back in working order in 6 months.

    We are a nation that knows how to get shit done.

    A few more years pass, and the Northern Chile mine workers were trapped two miles underground. The eyes of the world began to tear as the word spread. Most began to whisper no one could save them. Who did they call for help? A bunch of hick miners from USA coal country who went down there, worked on the fly, engineered the rescue equipment on site, and saved every one of them.

    Yup, that’s our America. Ingenuity born from freedom.

    Across the pond a half-breed Islamic whack job, armed with an AK-47 and a goal to meet his virgins, began opening fire on a train in France. The scruffneck Americans on board didn’t run to the nearest safe room and hide themselves amid baguettes and brie. They said, “let’s go”, and beat the stuffing out of that little nut with a death wish.

    Legion d’Honneur or not, that’s us. WE ARE AMERICANS! That’s just how we roll.

    In fact, Lady Liberty can stroll along the Champs-Elysées with a swagger befitting Mae West because without her arrival, they’d be speaking German in the Louvre. Yet, for the better part of the past decade, a group of intellectual leftists have been teaching our children that it’s better to be sitting around a campfire eating sustainable algae cakes and picking parasites off each other; because ‘save the planet’, or something similarly minded. It would appear, they hate the outcomes and inequities from freedom.

    Warmest regards,

    Americans First!
    Atomic weapons, made by fat, lazy uneducated Americans, tested in Japan.
     
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    And that's exactly what's wrong (along with a host of other things) with our education system.

    Nobody is learning anything. It's all about the final grade so the teacher looks good.

    And yeah, 2/3 of my step kids actually earned straight A's.

    Both were pissed off because they worked for their grades and it was given to the others without any effort.

    Sounds like union work too. Doesn't matter how good you are, or how much you do. Bobby gets the same paycheck.
    As far as the Union work ,I argue that point I was a non-union Ironworker for 12 years before I joined the union , and actually had to take a pay cut at first , but within a year I was making 5.00 above scale. The union companies will almost always pay the good hands above scale and the dead weight bums make the minimum, and the bums are the 1st ones cut when the job slows down , and the top producers will never get laid off , because they might not be available when the next job starts so the company will pay then to cut grass or something to keep them on the payroll, but that is in Texas , and when I ran work out of state for the company, I would get some real turds , and it was hard to fire them , but not impossible, retired now and don't miss that shit show at all
     

    The agency that I'm currently with thought it would be a swell idea to have a contractor control the git license used agency-wide, and then to let that contract lapse (license leaves with the contractor), so there was a loss of access to github for every single project. My PM had a meeting with me about this. He has been on this project for over 15 years. He asks me.

    >what is github

    What a useful person. I guess this probably explains why he always sounds confused during standup when we're going over the git board. He probably doesn't even understand what he is looking at. I need to get into management.
     
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    They still shit on their beaches and in their own drinking water.

    I'm still working in software and I work with a bunch of those fuckers.

    If software was plumbing this would represent the kind of shit they build.

    The scary part is financial and infrastructure institutions employ them in a higher density than any other industry because banks are cheap fuckers who pay the lowest bidder.

    Waiting for the day when the whole thing grinds to a halt.

    iu
     
    My son graduated with a CS degree and he was one of the few white kids in his graduating class. Lots of competition driving salaries down but he worked for a company part-time during college and went to work for them full time. He is making good money as a Senior Software Engineer now but still living with us until he can get student debt paid off and money saved to buy a house.
     
    As far as the Union work ,I argue that point I was a non-union Ironworker for 12 years before I joined the union , and actually had to take a pay cut at first , but within a year I was making 5.00 above scale. The union companies will almost always pay the good hands above scale and the dead weight bums make the minimum, and the bums are the 1st ones cut when the job slows down , and the top producers will never get laid off , because they might not be available when the next job starts so the company will pay then to cut grass or something to keep them on the payroll, but that is in Texas , and when I ran work out of state for the company, I would get some real turds , and it was hard to fire them , but not impossible, retired now and don't miss that shit show at all
    Unions were/are a necessary evil.

    Company Store.

    Sadly they've become onerous, and as bad as the companies they were created to protect the workers from.