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Updat on the no knock raid at the wrong house
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when i was in the bidness of assaults to grab a particular asset, having the ability to get aerial photos of an objective was WAY above our level. back then, i never could i have dreamed that everyone would have the ability IN THEIR POCKET for FREE to pull up an address or location and map it all out. holy shit that would have made things so much easier.
these fuckups have that at their fingertips and evidently ignore it. fucking idiotic goons. this is why they spend their time targeting offensive vehicle stickers and weed eaters- i think they know if they try locking horns with something bigger, they'll get the fucking they got coming.
things have gone horrible wrong in our society.
these fuckups have that at their fingertips and evidently ignore it. fucking idiotic goons. this is why they spend their time targeting offensive vehicle stickers and weed eaters- i think they know if they try locking horns with something bigger, they'll get the fucking they got coming.
things have gone horrible wrong in our society.
Justice march held for Laurel Co. man killed in police shooting
It was in December when Kentucky State Police said Doug Harless was shot and killed by a London Police Officer.
www.wkyt.com
A March for Justice because these pigs have offered zero information, offered no explanations and NO ONE has been held accountable.
So not only free to murder at will ; but fuck even answering any questions the peons may have .
I bet the locker room is full of laughs and high fives - only things coulda made this better was a dog to kill and an old lady to heat up - maybe a 6 year old to handcuff
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Are y’all getting ready to exchange addresses? Ya know cause of internet shit talking ?
If you do then by custom and tradition you then have to start an apology thread where you quickly began spewing the same nonsense and vitriol that started the entire feud
If you do then by custom and tradition you then have to start an apology thread where you quickly began spewing the same nonsense and vitriol that started the entire feud
As @burt and a couple others will attest, I've been a steadfast supporter of my friends in blue, but after COVID, the persecution of DJT, and stories like this, it makes the position less and less tenable.
Recently near my AO:
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www.kulr8.com
The actions of these officers do a double disservice to the community. First, it gives the taxpayers legitimate reasons to question the value and integrity of the services they are compelled to fund. And their actions put other, possibly legitimate cases, in question and may lead to the guilty being turned back into society to re-offend.
To the good officers out there, thank you for your hard work in a near untenable conditions. Please don't tolerate bad behavior from your coworkers, because ultimately they are fucking ALL of us.
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Billings officers under investigation for actions during traffic stop
BILLINGS, Mont. – Three Billings police officers have been suspended following a traffic stop incident that raised questions about their credibility. The officers involved are Matthew Bistline, Ian Busta, and
The actions of these officers do a double disservice to the community. First, it gives the taxpayers legitimate reasons to question the value and integrity of the services they are compelled to fund. And their actions put other, possibly legitimate cases, in question and may lead to the guilty being turned back into society to re-offend.
To the good officers out there, thank you for your hard work in a near untenable conditions. Please don't tolerate bad behavior from your coworkers, because ultimately they are fucking ALL of us.
I totally agree with you and I am also supportive of good cops who would never had done this. And supportive of citizen watchdog groups who should get people like the boss fired. The judge should be censured, unseated, something.
sadly, examples of the misconduct are all too easy to find.
what takes some effort is finding a video of officers doing a good job and serving the public without them trying to violate the citizens' rights. so fucking sad.
so yes... you pretty much have to have your head completely buried to still think they're the good guys. by default, you have to treat them as your enemy...and i don't like that. that's the way they want it i guess....and well, that's the way they'll get it. like so many other situations....don't come crying to me when it turns around on them.
what takes some effort is finding a video of officers doing a good job and serving the public without them trying to violate the citizens' rights. so fucking sad.
so yes... you pretty much have to have your head completely buried to still think they're the good guys. by default, you have to treat them as your enemy...and i don't like that. that's the way they want it i guess....and well, that's the way they'll get it. like so many other situations....don't come crying to me when it turns around on them.
Why do you think most cops endorse gun bans ?
If this is how they act when they know most people are armed. Imagine how they would if they were able to ban guns
If this is how they act when they know most people are armed. Imagine how they would if they were able to ban guns
So the good ones that wouldn’t do this - did they all have the day off - or have they arrested any of these murders here on day 12 since the attack ?
Let me know when the good ones put an end to this death squad.
Unless they are too busy rounding up Epstines clients now that they aren’t chaining up businesses.
Where are they ?
Not in this rural town.
We know how city cops are
Texas cops roll up with swat ans bear cargo enforce covid closures.
So where are they ? The good ones left or go along to get along so they don’t get strung out with no backup.
Like politicians. They might have been good when they went in but they are all bad a few years in.
People with extreme ignorance really shouldn’t be trying to exercise the utmost of prejudice.
Perhaps one day the Uniform Hangers will do something bad enough that all the lazy complacent "good people" will finally get off their asses and actually take care of business
Justice march held for Laurel Co. man killed in police shooting
It was in December when Kentucky State Police said Doug Harless was shot and killed by a London Police Officer.
A March for Justice because these pigs have offered zero information, offered no explanations and NO ONE has been held accountable.
So not only free to murder at will ; but fuck even answering any questions the peons may have .
I bet the locker room is full of laughs and high fives - only things coulda made this better was a dog to kill and an old lady to heat up - maybe a 6 year old to handcuff
Peaceful protest marches do absolutely nothing to help stop this kind of evil.
It will ONLY stop when the actual Uniform Hangers and Corrupt, Complicit, Compromised, Cowardly Judges are made to personally pay the consequences of their actions.
Suuure, buddy.
Try to put up a more convincing show of your indignation and concern in all these other threads, too.
1. Firings are low - key
2. Previous records on job performance are hidden or simply ignored
3. The “good ole boy” culture - yes, it's a CULTURE
4. Protectionism
5. Absence of any true consequences
6. System allows garbage to percolate very well, see below
In any other profession - any egregious act tarnishing image of said profession gets you disbarred.
Not for them.
I suppose it’s the same way we’re hesitant to call out slob “gun owners,” as they’re “one of us.”
Justice Department Finds Civil Rights Violations by the City of Lexington, Mississippi, and the Lexington Police Department
Following a comprehensive investigation, the Justice Department announced today that the City of Lexington, Mississippi (City), and Lexington Police Department (LPD) engage in a pattern or practice of conduct that deprives people of their rights under the U.S. Constitution and federal law...
I was there for half a year, during this period.
Inside the remarkable rise and fall of Alabama’s most predatory police force
How Brookside, Ala., used its police force to bank income, destroy lives and build an empire. And how it came to an ignominious end.
www.al.com
No shortage of these discussions, almost too easy to find - sometimes feels like it's a contest.
Stories of these kindsa things are legion in the Arkansas / Mississippi / Alabama area. Very likely to be the same in the neighboring states as well. Do go on and whitewash, minimize, or just outright deny it
There’s oftentimes a “better them than no one at all” attitude towards it (from those who are not under the boot, of course).
Tell me if you haven't heard of this conversation - "...you got a ticket? That guy's a friend of Zach's. He can take care of it for you."
Most instances don’t make it to the news - why would they? They’re part of daily life, like acne and obesity and flatulence and diabetes and dementia.
I suppose it’s an issue in Texas as well, from a link below on this very page - going by the popular stereotype of the corrupt overweight Sheriff and mentally deficient deputy
ARTICLE
The Wandering Officer
Ben Grunwald & John RappaportPOLICING
https://www.yalelawjournal.org/article/the-wandering-officer
ABSTRACT. “Wandering officers” are law-enforcement officers fired by one department, sometimes for serious misconduct, who then find work at another agency. Policing experts hold disparate views about the extent and character of the wandering-officer phenomenon. Some insist that wandering officers are everywhere—possibly increasingly so—and that they’re dangerous. Others, however, maintain that critics cherry-pick rare and egregious anecdotes that distort broader realities. In the absence of systematic data, we simply do not know how common wandering officers are or how much of a threat they pose, nor can we know whether and how to address the issue through policy reform.
In this Article, we conduct the first systematic investigation of wandering officers and possibly the largest quantitative study of police misconduct of any kind. We introduce a novel data set of all 98,000 full-time law-enforcement officers employed by almost 500 different agencies in the State of Florida over a thirty-year period. We report three principal findings. First, in any given year during our study, an average of just under 1,100 officers who were previously fired—three percent of all officers in the State—worked for Florida agencies. Second, officers who were fired from their last job seem to face difficulty finding work. When they do, it takes them a long time, and they tend to move to smaller agencies with fewer resources in areas with slightly larger communities of color. Interestingly, though, this pattern does not hold for officers who were fired earlier in their careers. Third, wandering officers are more likely than both officers hired as rookies and those hired as veterans who have never been fired to be fired from their next job or to receive a complaint for a “moral character violation.” Although we cannot determine the precise reasons for the firings, these results suggest that wandering officers may pose serious risks, particularly given how difficult it is to fire a police officer. We consider several plausible explanations for why departments nonetheless hire wandering officers and suggest potential policy responses to each.
AUTHOR. Ben Grunwald is Assistant Professor, Duke University School of Law. John Rappaport is Assistant Professor and Ludwig and Hilde Wolf Research Scholar, University of Chicago Law School. The authors thank Guangya Liu at Duke and Morgen Miller, Rafeh Qureshi, and Bartosz Woda in the Coase-Sandor Institute at the University of Chicago Law School for help constructing the data set; Dhammika Dharmapala and Richard McAdams for generously sharing data; Matt Adler, Will Baude, Panka Bencsik, Sam Buell, Mitch Downey, John de Figueredo, Michael Frakes, Barry Friedman, Brandon Garrett, Roger Goldman, Hiba Hafiz, Emma Kaufman, Kate Levine, Darrell Miller, Richard Myers, Michael Pollack, Kyle Rozema, Seth Stoughton, and Samuel Walker for feedback and suggestions; Dylan Demello, Carly Gibbs, Morgan Gehrls, Viraj Paul, and Catherine Prater for research assistance; and Terry Baker at the Florida Department of Law Enforcement for assistance interpreting the data. The paper also benefited from presentations at Duke University School of Law, Gonzaga University School of Law, the American Society of Criminology Annual Conference, the Law and Society Association Conference, the Criminal Law Roundtable at UNC School of Law, the Junior Faculty Forum at Richmond School of Law, the Stockholm Criminology Symposium, the ETH Zurich Conference on Data Science and Law, the European University Institute for the Rule of Law, and the Law of the Police Conference. John Rappaport acknowledges The Darelyn A. & Richard C. Reed Memorial Fund for financial support.
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Cops do face criminal charges for killing a person.
www.nbcnews.com
Amber Guyger sentenced to 10 years for murdering neighbor in his apartment
Jean's brother dramatically forgave and hugged Guyger, who fatally shot Jean after she mistakenly entered his apartment and believed he was a burglar.
www.nbcnews.com
Yes they do - just not often enough. And not fast enough.Cops do face criminal charges for killing a person.
Amber Guyger sentenced to 10 years for murdering neighbor in his apartment
Jean's brother dramatically forgave and hugged Guyger, who fatally shot Jean after she mistakenly entered his apartment and believed he was a burglar.
These guys may face some charges - or maybe not , that’s problem # 2 . First problem is badged hit squads . The troubling thing with this one - other than the dead guy and the official silence for 13 days , not even over money or to “take out” someone that knew things damaging to them . Did they plan to shot the guy that they thought stole the yard tool?
It sure seems likely.
So in a case like Brianna Taylor, they staged that raid and lied to get the warrant because they thought there would be big money there . Shooting her and her boy friend was accepted as doing business , few stray rounds hitting a neighbor- that was acceptable as well .
For a big pay day .
Why the fuck were they so trigger happy here ?
Update on the whole insane fucking thing - leaked phone call , and confirmation that they went in heavy because the weed wacker belonged to a local judge .
And still the wrong address- and home owner still dead by murder. Those facts haven’t changed
Yeah, because the Big City is the pinnacle of ethics.
U so fun nee!
U must be the slow - witted deputy rooting for the fat, corrupt sheriff!
Does he return the favor after you jack him off?
Alcoholic sheriff films himself-assaulting ,threatening neighbors- brilliant
Protecting and serving the shit out of the community. Self filming multiple crimes while drunk . Come on KY surly you can do better than this . Warning: the video is real Jerry Springer shit - loud badge monkey and his fat loud mouth wife . Also funny that county prosecutor said there was...
www.snipershide.com
Y’got anuther one from Kentucky?!
Youse be profilin’ dem good ole bois, @nagantguy !
Yer makin’ me think them good ole boi’s all th’ same!
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There is a new update on this story but it doesn’t make much sense- So it was the wrong address wrong guy BUT the city is claiming that it actually was the correct address but wrong guy cause in 2013 that was the address for that home -then they go on to say “those trailer courts are nightmares because we aren’t good with numbers “
Still no explanation for a midnight swat raid over a weed wacker .
Or why the guy who lived there had the right address in his license as well as his home but the London KY PD assured us it was the wrong address- but the right one and of course they were justified in shooting a peon .
Questions of anything deliberately nefarious aside (as apposed to nefarious born of rank ineptitude), I cannot remember any government agency willingly admitting fault without being backed into a corner with unassailable evidence.
When I was on our SWAT team. We had to document and verify an address before making entry. It was nearly impossible to get the wrong address.
Wait before you went in in force you made sure the numbers matched ? Amazing idea .
So it can be done .
I’m not mocking you just the event- there is like 4 YouTube channels dedicated to wrong address wrong person . It has become very very common and it should terrify people .
Question while on SWAT what would you have said if the local judge gave you a list of people to visit/raid/arrest because he had a missing garden tool . The continued wrong address/ wrong person is at issue here but we can’t forget they came to the wrong address at midnight, came heavy because the local judge told them to and in my understanding of it that not how warrants are properly issued .
Only whats on the warrant. Violating it (here at least) gets you fired and your POST cert revoked.
Anyone want to start a board on how long it takes for the state police to do their investigation and submit a report?
I'm in for 14 months.
I'm in for 14 months.
That may be a little short- the investigation into the Taylor massacre took nearly 3 years- and the whole truth didn’t come out until half way through the trial when the lead detective (a dumb murdering bitch) broke down on the stand and admitted that everything they said was a lie . No eye witness no confidential informant, no dual investigation by the postal service investigators no eyes on by the Vice officer seeing drugs being shipped and sold from that location- confessed to getting the judge to change the name on the warrant after the shooting .
They went there because Taylor’s baby daddy was already in jail and they thought she was holding his cash stash so they lied got a warrant under false pretenses with the wrong name on it ANHad a hell of a gun fight in an apartment complex. Officers shot , Taylor killed Taylor’s new man shot , neighbor shot - bullets hit 3 separate apartments . A complete murder string arm robbery hit . And the bitch got 7 years . 7 years . Hell the feds wanted us all to do 10 for each and every pistol brace we legally owned.
No murder no false documents no conspiracy no evidence destruction.
So I’d be shocked if the KY case takes at least 3 years for them figure out they investigated themselves and found no wrong doing .
They’ll have to delay and memory hole this one - it involves an entire PD and a judge .
Perhaps somebody should DOXX the judge and all the officers involved really hard and suggest the entire country flood their addresses with broken weed eaters.
Along with flooding the vile police station and evil court house with them as well.
Along with flooding the vile police station and evil court house with them as well.
Yeah.
I bet they would ignore paperless silencers and MGs.
Prolly be let out in 6 months after the heat dies downCops do face criminal charges for killing a person.
Amber Guyger sentenced to 10 years for murdering neighbor in his apartment
Jean's brother dramatically forgave and hugged Guyger, who fatally shot Jean after she mistakenly entered his apartment and believed he was a burglar.
This.
This is why they want to ban rifles and have banned things like Barnes banded solids
Yeah id suggest something other than weed whackers.
If there were any good cops / .gov officials. All the names would be public now
It did not come up in conversations I have had with them.
Also, in Texas, you can make quieting devices without the 3 letter agency. Just keep your mouth shut about it and don't try to buy it from a store that does 4473 forms. They won't sell it because they don't want to lose their FFL status.
Anyway, so, you have proposed the cops in my town would do that without proof. But I understand you are coming from the viewpoint that all cops are corrupt until proven otherwise. Not complaining, just acknowledging your frame of reference.
Last month, she had a parole hearing, having had a perfect record in prison with no problems.
She was denied parole, primarily on the statements of the victim's family. Which is how the justice system works.
I could see the victim's family being pretty salty and steamed up about it.
After the murder the police raided the victims house and proceeded to begin a smear campaign against him "leaking" anything damaging they could to the media to try to ruin his reputation.
All the while of course not investigating the house of the killer at all and then the local Police Department all trying their best to do the whole locking ranks thing and protecting their own etc.
It really only went to trial because basically folks threaten to go all burn down the city about it.
Basically the cops and the killer dragged the victim's name through the mud and his family through the wringer and were completely unrepentant and unapologetic about it. Even the killer herself didn't care at all about the victim and immediately got on the phone with her union rep and basically that's all she did.
So I could see the Victim's family having a pretty big axe to grind and wanting to make her serve as much of that tiny 10 year sentence as she can. You know for sure had it been the exact other way around, they guy would have probably gotten 30 years to life.
Is there such a thing these days as a honest jury of your peers?
Everyone is so delusional, I wouldn't want to be forced to be tried by the current crop of knuckleheads in this country.
Everyone is so delusional, I wouldn't want to be forced to be tried by the current crop of knuckleheads in this country.
The system is so screwed up that the jury of your "peers" can't even be told that they have the ability to not convict if they think the charge(s) are wrong or the government is being unfair (jury nullification).
I've reached the point that eye witness testimony would carry no more weight than circumstantial evidence, badge or not. Circumstantial has to be irrefutable. If defense can cast any shadow on circumstancial, NG.
It's almost as if you didn't work or live here to understand there was not any threat of burning things down. At the parole hearing, the family members were allowed to make impact statements and that figured into the decision to deny.
At all times in this case, DPD, with Chief Eddie Garcia, were transparent.
I am not bad things don't happen but I see that it is easy to crap on at least the one example I can show that the system can work.
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