Night Vision The Official: Steiner C35 Thermal Clip-on Review and User Thread!

What magnification your day optic is at shouldn't matter for zeroing with the clip on in front. A 2.5-15 should be good to go. 2.5x or 3x is probably the highest base magnification I would want behind a clip on, especially if you don't have a dedicated scanner.
Yeah, its not a must to put it in front of my 5-27 but I do have a zco 4-20 on a tikka 223 in a whiskey chassis that I was hopeful for.
 
Yeah, its not a must to put it in front of my 5-27 but I do have a zco 4-20 on a tikka 223 in a whiskey chassis that I was hopeful for.
If you have an sunshade on the ZCO, you may have enough standoff from the lens to make it work. My C35 Gen 1 was unusable in front of my Razor LHT 4.5-22... I could use the menu and couldn't see the settings indicators on the edges of the thermal display. The ability to read and use the menu is going to be the deal breaker there.
 
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If you have an sunshade on the ZCO, you may have enough standoff from the lens to make it work. My C35 Gen 1 was unusable in front of my Razor LHT 4.5-22... I could use the menu and couldn't see the settings indicators on the edges of the thermal display. The ability to read and use the menu is going to be the deal breaker there.
Yes sir, that was my understanding of the agm as well. The zco sits a fair distance from the nv bridge so it might be plausible. When a c35 pops up in the px i will find out.
 
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Yes sir, that was my understanding of the agm as well. The zco sits a fair distance from the nv bridge so it might be plausible. When a c35 pops up in the px i will find out.
I am really happy with mine.. especially for being just over $2k. I much prefer it to my Super Hogster. The Hogster basically lives on a .22LR bolt action now, with occasional 300blk duty. My pig and coyote go tos involve the C35. It's waaaaaay more comfortable to look through for a long period.
 
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What is the highest power it can be used at? I see in this thread, guys parking the c35 in front of 5-27 zco's and in the well made youtu.be vid he's on steel at over 800 yards. My initial interest in a clip on had me headed toward the AGM rattler, that i read is maxed out around 8 power, then I read this thread and see that the Steiner is capable of more than the AGM. The other consideration is price. The last c35 I saw sell here went for $1850.00 which is about a grand less than the model you are talking about.
It works best from 2x to 8x, I'd say the absolute max is 10x, which is about the same as the C35 gen 1
 
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Yeah, its not a must to put it in front of my 5-27 but I do have a zco 4-20 on a tikka 223 in a whiskey chassis that I was hopeful for.
Running a clip on with a Tikka in the KRG chassis is going to be difficult due to KRG not adjusting the NV rail height (designed around the R700 acrion) to the height of the Tikka action/rails. I went down that rabbit hole and had to run super high rings.

I gave up and just threw one Tikka in a Tac A1 chassis and the other in a McMillan (have a Badger nv rail i need to have installed)

 
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I couldn't get the scopecam to work, so all I could get is some pics of the TA651 in action. It was also pouring rain 1hr before these were taken, so its about the worst possible conditions with high humidity and wet ground and targets. But you can at least see how a optic performs in the clip-on. These pics do not accurately represent the clarity of this unit.

This is a 1200yd range with steel targets at multiple berms, with the reticle pointed at the 760yd berm. With the relatively flat temps on the terrain, its not popping as much as it normally would, when dry.

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I said before that the max zoom id recommend is at 8x, maybe 10x. To clarify, that's is my recommendation to be able to still positively identify animals and targets. 8x is about the point where you START to lose fidelity. You can definitely shoot stuff and see at 15x, its just obviously less clear and not ideal for PID.
 
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It’s a fun gun for sure.

I did a 9” barrel so I could dump velocity off of the cheap 40 grain ammo and make them subsonic.

I did the 1-6x just for use with the thermal. Getting 2 moa groups at 100 with shitty 40 grain lead nose with the box velocity listed at 1130 fps, they are staying subsonic.
 
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It’s a fun gun for sure.

I did a 9” barrel so I could dump velocity off of the cheap 40 grain ammo and make them subsonic.

I did the 1-6x just for use with the thermal. Getting 2 moa groups at 100 with shitty 40 grain lead nose with the box velocity listed at 1130 fps, they are staying subsonic.
I have a 16 inch match upper from bore buddy. It does very well with cci standard and with day optic I routinely shoot it at 250 yards so definitely need more than a lpvo. Probably not the best option but I'm splitting hairs on my usage.
 
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I dropped my C35 like 3-4 feet onto my deck trying to pull it off one handed last night.

It landed in its side pretty hard. I was worried it was going to have issues with the zero.

Put it on and checked it tonight and it was good to go!
I would have been more worried about it breaking the deck:D
 
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For those of you using the Steiner Nighthunter C35 Gen 2, we worked with @koshkin to connect us with the folks at Steiner and developed a picatinny rail mount so it can be used as a clip-on. They are shipping in ~30 days.

https://annexdefense.com/steiner-nighthunter-gen-ii-picatinny-rail-mount/

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I realize this does not need to align perfectly to the objective, but do you know height to center? Current Burris mount is on the pretty low end of my scope height.
 
My Burris mount aligns the C35 Gen 2 perfectly with my SB 1-8 Dual CC mounted on a 1.54 Badger Ordnance mount.

I like the looks of this new mount and will consider ordering it. I wonder, though, why it does not have a QD feature? A QD mount seems particularly appropriate for a clip-on thermal.
 
My Burris mount aligns the C35 Gen 2 perfectly with my SB 1-8 Dual CC mounted on a 1.54 Badger Ordnance mount.

I like the looks of this new mount and will consider ordering it. I wonder, though, why it does not have a QD feature? A QD mount seems particularly appropriate for a clip-on thermal.
We were trying to leave as much clearance as possible for larger objective scopes. Because the clamp extends under the objective, there isn't a huge amount of space to work with. It should fit under most objectives with 50mm diameter lenses or smaller.

Ilya
 
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