You should tell her she's better than the White Death... or the White Feather...
Thank god we didn't have podcasts back then!
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It amazes me that people in 2025 still believe this....
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You should tell her she's better than the White Death... or the White Feather...
Thank god we didn't have podcasts back then!
Read what I wrote again. I only interpreted what he said.
In my opinion. That file is hands off to everyone. EVERYONE. Anyone asking for access to it? Doubtful that it would be granted. The sign off sheet for the file probably only has a few names on it. They are probably already dead from old age or other reasons.
In reality I would say that there's an alternative file that is congruent with the Warren Commission and it's probably been accessed many times.
Now, pay attention to what you read, hear and see. Don't assume. Analyze.
so maybe my heard story about Hathcock is bogus. 3 shots in 5 sec with a 91/38? anything is possible but i don't believe it til i see that. 9 sec? maybe. does lend to the idea that Oswald didn't shoot at all.Here's another guy who shoots better than Carlos Hathcock:
"the target was moving away at 9mph at a distance between 60 and 90 yards, it was hit three times in three shots in 5 to 9 seconds. Because the silhouette was suspended from a wire and moving, a light, gusty wind caused it slightly bounce and swing from side to side which made it more difficult to hit than expected."
https://www.sctonline.net/local-news-front-page-slideshow/morgan-recreates-kennedy-assassination
Was Hathcock using a Carcano, and did the Marines accurately replicate the conditions?
Do they even have the right targets? I know their targets are like... as big as an entire sheet of plywood.
I saw Angelina Jolie shooting and she could make shots go around objects. So I wouldn't rule out that magic bullet just yet.
You have the seat postuon thing backwards. The diagrams never show the proper seat position. They recreated the shots in the Warren report shooting monkey torsos and skulls also. Lots of hard evidence evaluated in the Warren report.
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Your first picture is what I said, thats their picture, but in reality Kennady was sitting higher up.
With him higher up the bullet holes line up.
They pinned the General Walker assassination attempt on Oswald post-facto.
When the FBI followed-up with General Walker and showed him the bullet they had in evidence, he got pretty irate that it wasn’t the bullet that was pulled from his plaster wall back on April 10, 1963. The bullet they showed him sure looks like a fired 160gr WCC 6.5 Carcano projectile, but the FBI also said they couldn’t exactly match it to CE139 (6th floor rifle).
An eye witness who was in a 2nd floor window saw 2 men running away from the General Walker failed hit, in the church parking lot next to his house. Neither matched the description of Oswald.
Marina had all kinds of testimony changes and the photos Ruth Paine produced were many days after the FBI searched the Paine house thoroughly, including Oswald’s Navy sea bag.
I’m not ruling out anything, but the case against Oswald for the Walker attempt has some pretty big holes in it that are a bit convenient for the WC, and also absolved the corrupt Dallas PD of having to do any follow-on investigation into the case.
Within JFK alone, the rear shot to his Right scapula does not even closely align with his throat, even taking into consideration the declination of Elm Street.
Connally was insistent until his death that JFK was already hit before Connally felt an impact to his back that was like someone hauled off and punched him hard. This was after he turned to look and see JFK slumped over.
Gerald Ford manipulated the description of the back GSW in the WC to hide the fact that the back and throat wounds didn’t align, weren’t connected in any way.
The Bethesda administrative pathologists (not forensic pathologists, no experience with GSWs) said the scapula GSW only went in about half a pinky finger. When they insisted they wanted to do a full autopsy, they were told not to worry about it, they already have the guy that did it and wrap things up quickly.
Dr. Boswell wanted to explore the foreign metallic body lodged in JFK’s neck that was evident on the portable X-Ray film taken, but wasn’t allowed to do so.
The autopsy is used an example of what not to do in every way. Totally rushed, botched, evidence burned “so people wouldn’t trade or sell JFK’s effects”.
CBS concealed the fact that they cherry-picked the positive results after 90 sample firings, and their tower wasn’t 6 stories high. It’s one of the things Hathcock and crew corrected at Quantico when they set up the test.
One of the LE attendees said he was able to perform the challenge with his tuned Rem 700 with slick action and better scope, but nobody was able to do it with the Carcano.
Doesn’t matter though, since they can’t duplicate what was seen in Zapruder with the frontal impact to the R temple area and the clear blood splash angle, along with the 7” occipital cavity in the back of JFK’s head witnessed by Parkland ER doctors.
And remember, the Carcano (no such thing as a "Mannlicher Carcano”) could not be zeroed without shims. They had major problems even after shimming with windage-induced elevation changes due to erector collision inside the tiny tube.
The FBI ordered 4 duplicate carbines and scopes for their testing, and each of those samples had the same problems with zeroing.
The Carcano is a diversion, a distraction, a prop from all I’ve gathered. Same with CE399. They fired CE399 through it, then entered it into evidence in DC.
A better question is, what caliber was the rifle that made the frontal head shot.
Maybe. Why would they do that?
I agree with where you ended up with all that, and that probably makes the individual pieces irrelevant, but some of the old bullet points that people keep repeating need to disappear from discussion.
The "can't be duplicated" thing was absurd, because many, many people over the years have duplicated it with almost perfect duplication of the conditions and less perfect duplication. I might duplicate it for fun when the weather is a little nicer.
I don't know why you're still doubting after seeing video of some oldster slam tagging that tombstone 3 x in 5 seconds... and I doubt he was an undercover Carcano-enjoyer, practicing every weekend (which Oswald was- and folks saw him at the range).
I also don't put any faith in anything the report says- either "Mannlicher Carcano," or the fact that they say 7 round capacity, but it's only 6, and then folks say "they meant 6+1," but that's not possible with the clip setup, or any of that.
I don't cheap-out on mounts, but if I slam tagged that snowman over there (I'm 4 stories up, but high ceilings... so maybe about the same height) and then dropped the rifle onto a hard surface and ran away... would my modern setup hold zero?
I'm not trying to hear any BS about shims or anything because you could bend that L mount into a 20 MOA or a 0 MOA if you wanted, with a pair of vise grips, or a more precise tool. A Youtuber replicated the second Trumpshooters SKS with optic duct taped directly to the receiver cover and was making good hits at the same distance.
I can 100% guarantee if if was a successful assassination attempt and they held up an SKS with an optic randomly duct taped to it, lots and lots of gun-guys would be screaming BS.
All that being said- I ALSO don't think LHO was the killer.
When you expand the time in the kill zone to 9 seconds, sure. But the limo didn’t spend 9 seconds in the kill zone and the span of time from 1st shot to 3rd according to the WC was 5.6 seconds, based on analysis of the Zapruder film. They just didn’t know when the missed shot was fired that hit James Tague in the face (assuming only one shot missed when held to the Lone gunman theory).
And again, you don’t create a 7” exit from behind. I’m over 4 decades into this and have heard all the different theories, gone down so many rabbit holes, and the whole situation with the Carcano is kind of a fool’s errand.
In the Hughes film (there are way more films that Zapruder), they froze one of the frames showing the 6th floor right as the limo turned onto Elm. You can see something in the window.
Robert Hughes turned in his film to the Dallas FBI office on Nov 26 if I recall. The Dallas SAC sent the film to the FBI crime lab in DC to have the images blown-up and analyzed:
Based on detailed analysis of the Hughes film showing something in the 6th floor window, the Bureau and Naval Photographic Interpretation Center concluded that all it showed was boxes.
TSBD worker Bonnie Ray Willians said he built a makeshift lunch table out of boxes in the window, and ate his chicken bone sandwich, drank his Dr. Pepper, and had a cigarette there. Walter Cronkite said the assassin was so cold-hearted that he ate his lunch before shooting the President from the window.
What nobody has mentioned is that the Carcano has a thicker forend than the window frame features, namely the muntin.
In the Hughes film, you don’t see any rifle in that window, and there is very limited space to set back in the corner of the room for a loophole.
And again, you don’t create a 7” exit from behind. I’m over 4 decades into this and have heard all the different theories, gone down so many rabbit holes, and the whole situation with the Carcano is kind of a fool’s errand.
In the Hughes film (there are way more films that Zapruder), they froze one of the frames showing the 6th floor right as the limo turned onto Elm. You can see something in the window.
Robert Hughes turned in his film to the Dallas FBI office on Nov 26 if I recall. The Dallas SAC sent the film to the FBI crime lab in DC to have the images blown-up and analyzed:
Based on detailed analysis of the Hughes film showing something in the 6th floor window, the Bureau and Naval Photographic Interpretation Center concluded that all it showed was boxes.
TSBD worker Bonnie Ray Willians said he built a makeshift lunch table out of boxes in the window, and ate his chicken bone sandwich, drank his Dr. Pepper, and had a cigarette there. Walter Cronkite said the assassin was so cold-hearted that he ate his lunch before shooting the President from the window.
What nobody has mentioned is that the Carcano has a thicker forend than the window frame features, namely the muntin.
In the Hughes film, you don’t see any rifle in that window, and there is very limited space to set back in the corner of the room for a loophole.
good question. i fear not a whole lot. everyone involved is dead. the millions affected? hard to say. if you think about it,millions were affected just counting in US. i would hope that those on the edge would realize that the government is only interested in staying in full control and learn that the gov never tells the truth. most with a brain and a pulse already know that. the libs who love gov and it's intervention and control likely just blow it off like they do any other evidence of gov malfeasance.
People that have known Trump from the tabloids and TV for 50 years believe that he is a Russian agent. How many people are you seeing still wearing masks. How many still believe that covid came from a wet market?
It would open the eyes of a few and be confirmation to even more but the majority would not bat an eye. Mostly because the Pravda would not cover it
Yup. I game it out and ask if the government is really going to ever say, “Well shucks folks. Turns out we’ve been lying to you for the past 6+ decades on this unfortunate incident. Sorry 'bout that. Well, anyways, here’s out National Intelligence Estimate! Oh yeah, the Bureau is tough on white collar and inter-state crimes! They’re the best when it comes to counter-intelligence too, dontchya know. It’s why they send their behavioral problem folks to CI Division."
Just within the government, the skepticism from Congress alone will be permanent.
The lie is more for upper-level players in the system than the peasants. Peasants just assume it’s all corrupt, then are shocked about how right they are and how worse it is in the rare moments of unintended transparency. Politicians and professionals have to be invested, otherwise the system falls apart.
This is true whether the Warren Commission covered up foreign, domestic, or a combined actors plot to execute the President of the United States in front of everyone.
The lone gunman story absolves them of any such problems because there isn’t anyone to hold accountable. We can all move on with the blissful fairytale, with sufficient faith in the system.
The alternative is too uncomfortable.
First I like the look on Fords face looking at LBJ I was drafted in 67 and Trump has seen the Warren Commission and Iam sure Kash has its going to come out some time in the next four years and the people are ready for it so its really not going to be a shock to any one....I would like to hear from the guy that still has the shovel hes out there.
Like others have mentioned above I have also been to Daly Plaza. If I was in the school book depository, I never would’ve taken the shot where it happened. The easy shot would’ve been when the motorcade was coming straight at the window before the turn.
That said, only the completely ignorant would believe the warren report. There were clearly multiple shooters.
That said, only the completely ignorant would believe the warren report. There were clearly multiple shooters.
Exactly my thought. And I read a book written by a US Marine Scout Sniper who visited the depository and was able to stand at the window. The best shot would have been before the turn. Almost no wind target heading at you. As opposed to after the turn where the car is descending and turning.
So, yeah, the agencies and the WC are still laughing at us. Laughing so hard that they are straining the abdominal obliques.
Another thing to consider is that there were multiple plots already planned and ready to execute that were avoided, to include Miami and Chicago. They arrested a patsy named Thomas Vallee in Chicago.
They were going to get him no matter what.
They were going to get him no matter what.
And notice how similar he looks to LHO.Another thing to consider is that there were multiple plots already planned and ready to execute that were avoided, to include Miami and Chicago. They arrested a patsy named Thomas Vallee in Chicago.
They were going to get him no matter what.
And there was at least one other LHO look-alike running around Dallas.
same. never noticed the slouch over like maybe...he'd been shot in the back/shoulder/chest?
I drove through Dealey Plaza many, many times before I realized "where I was." It is TINY compared to how big it looks on the TV an Film.
LBJ was responsible for convincing Kennedy to make another trip to Texas. He had already been there once and Jackie said her husband was the most angry she had ever seen him while arguing with LBJ concerning that subject.
Connally was responsible for changing the venue from the Women's Club to the Trade Mart which in turn altered the route. He climbed into the limo with the president because he believed the assassination was to be carried out there. He faked a phone call in front of SS in order to pull that off .
Connally was responsible for changing the venue from the Women's Club to the Trade Mart which in turn altered the route. He climbed into the limo with the president because he believed the assassination was to be carried out there. He faked a phone call in front of SS in order to pull that off .
What bothers me about Connally knowing where the assassination was going to take place is that fact that he got close to Kennedy.
If anyone in their right mind knew they would be close to the target when the rounds went off, they would do everything they could to stay away from him.
As it was, Connolly got shot anyway. If he knew there was an assassination plot, he was probably told, "don't worry our man/men is/are an expert marksmen! You won't get it."
Then he got shot anyway. Getting shot is enough to make one cross to begin with. Getting shot when you're told you won't get shot will get you extremely pissed!
Maybe Connally wasn't supposed to survive? One less person alive that knows about the conspiracy is a good thing for those involved. Connally could then be replaced by a puppet who would do the bidding of those in power.
Or, he was the perfect well-paid puppet. Who better to cast doubt on the conspiracy theory than a fellow victim of "wrong place, wrong time"?
Good point. Reality is I seriously doubt we'll ever know the full truth about Kennedy's assassination and those involved.
And just watch. As much good as I think Trump can get done, he will follow the rest of the presidents since Bush 43 and he will not release the 28 redacted pages from the 9/11 Commission Report that detail how financing the terror operation went through our "friends," Saudi Arabia.
JFK had been shot at least twice already when his arms went up into what some have posited was a Thornburn reaction. Notice his hands placement. It might have been a result of spinal trauma from the bullet to his back, or the one to his throat.
Either way, no connection was ever established between his throat GSW and back GSW, and they are at elevations from each other that don’t make any sense for a 6h floor point of origin for the bullet anyway.
Also notice that Gov Connally has not yet turned around to see what was going on, so this frame really invalidates Arlen Specter’s Single Bullet Theory fraud.
Connally was hit well after this frame, just as he asserted quite vocally for many years.
That means that you need a minimum of 4 shots, even if we defer to the ridicule of the back scapular GSW and front throat GSW.
1. Miss off the curb that hit James Tague in the face with a fragment.
2. JFK hit at least once in this frame.
3. Connally hit at least once.
4. Head shot on JFK
To me, the evidence points to at least 5 shots, maybe 6 that connected with people. This doesn’t rule out any other shots.
We do know that CE399 did not cause Connally’s injuries though. We don’t even know where it came from. It looks nothing like a bullet that hit his rib. The total fragmentation weight in his chest, wrist, and leg indicate he was shot 2-3 times.
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We will probably never see those pages. Wouldn't be surprised if it indicates certain Americans or agency were connected somehow.
This is best for another thread though. Russia and China have been trying to fracture the US-Saudi alliance for a long time, so you have to run that through a filter.
China would love to be able to drive energy prices into the toilet to feed their economy, which imports 85% of their energy from the Persian Gulf.
Russia just wants the US more isolated from being able to drive what currency oil is traded in, but to drive prices opposite of what China wants, since Russia needs oil at over $100/bbl to grow their economy.
Everybody gets a vote, so there aren’t any simple answers. It would make zero sense for the Saudis to attack the US though in 2001.
The cover up plots are hard to ignore. Jack Ruby having mental issues? LHO saying/admitting that he was a patsy? Sirhan Sirhan having mental issues, after he killed the one person who would and could find the truth? To many coincidences, and too many persons wanted Kennedy stopped for the killing to be done by a lone person.
How did very poor Oswald go to Russia? Back then it would have been super expensive. Flight prices were super high, and you had to exchange a fixed amount dollars for rubles at 5x the actual rate for each day you were there. Someone paid LHO to to Russia, part of the setup for him to be a patsy.
Many persons wanted the Viet Nam war to go on, as they saw dollar signs. JFK stated we were going to pull out, and three weeks later he was dead.
How did very poor Oswald go to Russia? Back then it would have been super expensive. Flight prices were super high, and you had to exchange a fixed amount dollars for rubles at 5x the actual rate for each day you were there. Someone paid LHO to to Russia, part of the setup for him to be a patsy.
Many persons wanted the Viet Nam war to go on, as they saw dollar signs. JFK stated we were going to pull out, and three weeks later he was dead.
seem to remember reading somewhere (?) that RFK's family doesn't/didn't think Sirhan did it. also,MLK's family doesn't/didn't think J.E. Ray did it. i agree,of course.
i do wonder about leaving VN being why JFK was killed. he was pretty into the SF thing which he sort of started. i do not believe that he would have let it get out of hand to 5.5 mil personnel and 58K dead. no idea how he would have handled it. just my opinion. kinda think killing him was Dulles rouge op.
i do wonder about leaving VN being why JFK was killed. he was pretty into the SF thing which he sort of started. i do not believe that he would have let it get out of hand to 5.5 mil personnel and 58K dead. no idea how he would have handled it. just my opinion. kinda think killing him was Dulles rouge op.
The totality of the evidence indicates very strongly that LBJ was involved in the planning, execution, and certainly the cover-up.
The Warren Commission was the engineered cover-up.
Imagine having staffers get to hand-pick the witnesses and exclude any witnesses that contradicted their personal theories and conclusions. That’s exactly what they did.
The staffers drove the commission findings. The commissioners were primarily seated to give it the air of legitimacy and thoroughness, with a large unanimous panel (who weren’t allowed to record their objections and dissent).
Oswald got an early discharge from the Marines after serving in Japan. His service in Japan is pretty strange too, and the associated medical records. He would disappear for 2 weeks at a time on some type of special duty. He was also able to afford high-priced prostitutes on junior enlisted pay.
He gets out under the premise of going to Louisiana to help his mom, then takes a plane to London, then to Finland. He stays at the Torni Hotelli (which I have been to many times) then takes the Tolstoy Train to Moscow.
There’s a strong picture forming that he was sent by CIA as a fake defector to the USSR to try to flush out a high-level mole back at Langley who was compromising HUMINT sources in Russia. James Angleton had been looking for this mole, and they hoped to lure the mole into searching for Oswald’s file in a security file area that required log-in. Oswald was very young to have been trained as an illegal, so it seems more likely that he was just being used as bait if he in fact was a fake defector for the Agency.
The mole never took the bait back at Langley, so Oswald was recalled, only he didn’t want to come back. He kept ignoring the recall orders until they finally made it clear, then hid his diaries around his waist, and came back with Marina through Europe, where he was debriefed before returning to the US.
The CIA obviously doesn’t want a debrief site being mentioned/compromised, let alone sources and methods being described in-detail if they used that site for many years afterwards. Rumor is that Oswald was debriefed in Rotterdam. This is why he wasn’t detained in the US.
The other problem with one of the bases Oswald served at is that it is extremely likely that the same types of operations are still being done from there due to location, logistics, and access to military services and personnel to support those operations. That is a legitimate concern for the Agency, even if they effed up by using him for this whole fake defector operation.
JFK didn’t want to commit any conventional US forces to Vietnam. A weird thing that happened though was the assassination of the Diem brothers Nov 2, 1963, 20 days before JFK was assassinated. CIA helped the assassins, which makes no sense.
Yes, in 1962, JFK signed an EO to change the bud (basic underwater demolition) training program into bud/S to create SF teams to be called SEAL.
Maybe they should check the audio for the extra shots. Or did someone do that already...JFK had been shot at least twice already when his arms went up into what some have posited was a Thornburn reaction. Notice his hands placement. It might have been a result of spinal trauma from the bullet to his back, or the one to his throat.
Either way, no connection was ever established between his throat GSW and back GSW, and they are at elevations from each other that don’t make any sense for a 6h floor point of origin for the bullet anyway.
Also notice that Gov Connally has not yet turned around to see what was going on, so this frame really invalidates Arlen Specter’s Single Bullet Theory fraud.
Connally was hit well after this frame, just as he asserted quite vocally for many years.
That means that you need a minimum of 4 shots, even if we defer to the ridicule of the back scapular GSW and front throat GSW.
1. Miss off the curb that hit James Tague in the face with a fragment.
2. JFK hit at least once in this frame.
3. Connally hit at least once.
4. Head shot on JFK
To me, the evidence points to at least 5 shots, maybe 6 that connected with people. This doesn’t rule out any other shots.
We do know that CE399 did not cause Connally’s injuries though. We don’t even know where it came from. It looks nothing like a bullet that hit his rib. The total fragmentation weight in his chest, wrist, and leg indicate he was shot 2-3 times.
It's funny how all these conspiracies are like one fact tied together with ten pages of conjecture. What's the simple answer. They paid Oswald to do it. Told him they would make sure he got away with it. Then arrested and killed him. Probably not mush diffrent than what happenned to the guy shooting at President Trump.
None of it requires any magic bullets, or extra shots that aren't heard in audio or by witnesses. It explains the blanket wrapped item witnesses saw Oswald entering the building with. The same blanket the found the rifle wrapped and hidden in. It explains the eye witnesses that saw a man shooting out said window. Seems like most of the multiple shooter hypothises ignore most of thw evidence.
I like connecting dots I can't see as much as the next guy, but a lot times the simple explantion is true.
I am suprised in this day and age there are still people who think Oswald wasn't the shooter. And there are people who think Oswald being the shooter means there was no conspricey to kill Kennedy.
The Zapruder film eliminates a rear shooter though for the fatal head shot. The Parkland Doctors’ eye witness accounts show that the rear of JFK’s head was a giant 7” exit, something that no medium or even large bore rifle is capable of producing as an entrance wound. Keep in mind your blood pressure is 14psi, so wherever a high velocity bullet impacts, you will see significant splash effects. Secondary missiles from skull bone can fly off perpendicular to the point of impact, which is what you see here. There is no splash cloud or supersonic blood vapor in the back of his head.
You can clearly see frontal impact blood splash effects in Zapruder, not exit wound behavior on the Right front of his head. This is why Zapruder was kept from the public for so long, why it was segregated from Specter’s Single Bullet Theory, and why it was kept from the ballisticians at Edgewood Arsenal for their tests.
The Warren Commission never posited that Oswald arrived with a rifle wrapped in a blanket. The Warren Commission official conclusion was that he wrapped the broken-down Carcano in heavy packing paper, then assembled the M91/38 Carcano carbine at some unidentified time or space, leaving no incorrect tooling marks on the 5 screws necessary to tighten/install on that firearm. If you zoom-in on CE139, you will see the action screws, handguard band screw, and ferrule screws in pristine condition. The stock was painted black before being exported to the US to cover up imperfections and scratches, which was common for that lot of carbines.
The witnesses who saw Oswald with the package stated it was about 2ft long, measured by FBI in reference to the back of Buell Frazier’s Chevy Bell Air seat to be no longer than 27.6”.
The stock alone for the Carcano is 34”. Frazier said he watched Oswald walk the 200yds from his car to the TSBD while carrying the small package under his arm. In short, the Carcano does not fit even when broken-down. It would have been very obvious if he was carrying the length of package required to fit the stock and barreled action. The WC recognized this was a problem and just brushed it off, moving forward with their position that he brought a broken-down Carcano. They also consistently referred to the Carcano as a Mannlicher Carcano. No such rifle or carbine exists.
The FBI had the Hughes film frames blown up showing the SE 6th floor window and their lab in DC and the Naval photo analysis labs both concluded there wasn’t even a person in the window, just boxes. The film and photographic evidence contradicted eye witness testimony about someone with a rifle in the 6th floor window. Those film blow-ups were later destroyed in 1973 as the oversight committees in Congress started to spool-up.
With everyone involved being dead or very old, there probably wouldn’t be much impact unfortunately.
But 9/11, though…?
No, the film does not. There is some debate over the skull x-rays. And some possible evidence there. It's very much like everything else. Some inconsistency leveraged against the preponderance of the evidence. Lewis W Alvarez's (noble prize winning physicist) analized the film and agreed he was shot from the rear. His published assemnt was backed up by other independent studies listed.The Zapruder film eliminates a rear shooter though for the fatal head shot. The Parkland Doctors’ eye witness accounts show that the rear of JFK’s head was a giant 7” exit, something that no medium or even large bore rifle is capable of producing as an entrance wound. Keep in mind your blood pressure is 14psi, so wherever a high velocity bullet impacts, you will see significant splash effects. Secondary missiles from skull bone can fly off perpendicular to the point of impact, which is what you see here. There is no splash cloud or supersonic blood vapor in the back of his head.
You can clearly see frontal impact blood splash effects in Zapruder, not exit wound behavior on the Right front of his head. This is why Zapruder was kept from the public for so long, why it was segregated from Specter’s Single Bullet Theory, and why it was kept from the ballisticians at Edgewood Arsenal for their tests.
The Warren Commission never posited that Oswald arrived with a rifle wrapped in a blanket. The Warren Commission official conclusion was that he wrapped the broken-down Carcano in heavy packing paper, then assembled the M91/38 Carcano carbine at some unidentified time or space, leaving no incorrect tooling marks on the 5 screws necessary to tighten/install on that firearm. If you zoom-in on CE139, you will see the action screws, handguard band screw, and ferrule screws in pristine condition. The stock was painted black before being exported to the US to cover up imperfections and scratches, which was common for that lot of carbines.
The witnesses who saw Oswald with the package stated it was about 2ft long, measured by FBI in reference to the back of Buell Frazier’s Chevy Bell Air seat to be no longer than 27.6”.
The stock alone for the Carcano is 34”. Frazier said he watched Oswald walk the 200yds from his car to the TSBD while carrying the small package under his arm. In short, the Carcano does not fit even when broken-down. It would have been very obvious if he was carrying the length of package required to fit the stock and barreled action. The WC recognized this was a problem and just brushed it off, moving forward with their position that he brought a broken-down Carcano. They also consistently referred to the Carcano as a Mannlicher Carcano. No such rifle or carbine exists.
The FBI had the Hughes film frames blown up showing the SE 6th floor window and their lab in DC and the Naval photo analysis labs both concluded there wasn’t even a person in the window, just boxes. The film and photographic evidence contradicted eye witness testimony about someone with a rifle in the 6th floor window. Those film blow-ups were later destroyed in 1973 as the oversight committees in Congress started to spool-up.
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