Satanism and Government. Deeper than you ever imagined.

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^ I only made it ~1:30 into the video.

I tried to kill myself in the very same way (passing out drunk behind the wheel going somewhere between 60 and 90 MPH and heading toward a concrete bridge). I had someone scream "WAKE UP" in my ear just in time for me to get back into the lane and make it to where I was staying. I was certainly alone in my car.

I've shared that story many times. I'm not only thankful that I'm alive, but that I didn't harm anyone else.

Sometimes we're allowed to survive our stupidity in order share what we learned with others.

In no way am I vouching for anything else that guy is saying (because I haven't watched it). I just saw the part in the beginning and recognized the similarity.

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We are all glad you're still with us!!!

FWIW, if you can settle for the topic, that video really does lay everything out there for the world to see. Every major corporation and every single politician has sworn an oath of secrecy for satanic deeds to manifest into our culture. They otherwise would have never gotten to that position. Face it: It's real. "He who has an ear, let him hear.."
 
Ya know what though Bender....If you believe in Jesus Christ, you too are an Israelite. Or, a reborn Israelite in a sense. Because it was He that gave the order for the Jews to go spread the good news throughout all the land, including Judea and Samaria :sneaky: All of us gentiles who follow Jesus are just jealous because He came to the Jews first. They were and are the most hated. But, they hated Him first.
 
Ya know what though Bender....If you believe in Jesus Christ, you too are an Israelite. Or, a reborn Israelite in a sense. Because it was He that gave the order for the Jews to go spread the good news throughout all the land, including Judea and Samaria :sneaky: All of us gentiles who follow Jesus are just jealous because He came to the Jews first. They were and are the most hated. But, they hated Him first.
Yea but no. The last chance they had to be “Gods chosen people” was when Jesus the Christ walked amongst them and asked them to repent and follow him. They then threatened Jesus and Jesus called them out in Revelations 2:9 and 3:9. The Jews then crucified him rather than repent. Thereby sealing thier fate.
 
It is the Gentiles who are “Gods chosen people”. Those who accept the gift of the Atonement.

They still are. Even if we don't agree to it. Jesus will soon return, split the temple mount in half, and David is gonna have his temple back in Jerusalem. David will be King, Jesus Christ will be Lord and all will be still on earth. God made the covenant between Abraham & Sarah. We both know who their son, Isaac, fathered. The coming troubles are for Jacob. We know him today as Israel. Biggest question in every bible readers mind...What happens to America? Like the lost Indian tribe, Fukawi. Where the Fukawi in end times scripture? Israels nation rebirth itself was an end times event. So, we're in the closing minutes for His kingdom to be restored. I hope. Could be something to the mystery of donald trump and the last trump sounding for America. A great mystery to ponder :)
 
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First, the House of David is gone. St Joseph was the last parent of that line. The Jews had to pervert tradition and claim that all male "jews" are messianic to alleviate the difficulty, so when you say David will have his temple back in Jerusalem you must mean our Lord Jesus Christ, Joseph's son and known full well by the Jews of His time (who tracked genealogy with a passion) that He was the only heir left to the Davidic throne. They knew full well they were killing their king, and later realized they killed their God.

Second, it seems to me that America does not factor into the Apocalypse because it doesn't exist then. Perhaps it is a great mercy to Americans due to the unusual generosity of their forbears that God sinks the land or cleans it off somehow so they don't suffer the horrible times of the tribulation.
 
They still are. Even if we don't agree to it. Jesus will soon return, split the temple mount in half, and David is gonna have his temple back in Jerusalem. David will be King, Jesus Christ will be Lord and all will be still on earth. God made the covenant between Abraham & Sarah. We both know who their son, Isaac, fathered. The coming troubles are for Jacob. We know him today as Israel. Biggest question in every bible readers mind...What happens to America? Like the lost Indian tribe, Fukawi. Where the Fukawi in end times scripture? Israels nation rebirth itself was an end times event. So, we're in the closing minutes for His kingdom to be restored. I hope. Could be something to the mystery of donald trump and the last trump sounding for America. A great mystery to ponder :)
They are if they chose to follow Christ and repent. They rejected the new covenant and wanted to wait for a savior that promised vengeance
 
They still are. Even if we don't agree to it. Jesus will soon return, split the temple mount in half, and David is gonna have his temple back in Jerusalem. David will be King, Jesus Christ will be Lord and all will be still on earth. God made the covenant between Abraham & Sarah. We both know who their son, Isaac, fathered. The coming troubles are for Jacob. We know him today as Israel. Biggest question in every bible readers mind...What happens to America? Like the lost Indian tribe, Fukawi. Where the Fukawi in end times scripture? Israels nation rebirth itself was an end times event. So, we're in the closing minutes for His kingdom to be restored. I hope. Could be something to the mystery of donald trump and the last trump sounding for America. A great mystery to ponder :)
In the words of Jesus himself.

Mathew 21:43

Ironically, the same chapter is where he cleanses the Temple.

Who did he cleanse the Temple from?


43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.


Why can you say they are still “the chosen people”? When Jesus said it himself?

This is the lie the synagogue of Satan still uses. They are liars and thier father is a liar. Revelation 2:9
 
Second, it seems to me that America does not factor into the Apocalypse because it doesn't exist then. Perhaps it is a great mercy to Americans due to the unusual generosity of their forbears that God sinks the land or cleans it off somehow so they don't suffer the horrible times of the tribulation.

I think you'll find that America just like the rest of the world will have an active participation ticket to all the fun times of the Great Tribulation.
The folks that seem to think they are going to be spared from having to go through the Great Tribulation are going to be in for a rude awakening when they find out that was a false doctrine and false promise.
 
^ I only made it ~1:30 into the video.

I tried to kill myself in the very same way (passing out drunk behind the wheel going somewhere between 60 and 90 MPH and heading toward a concrete bridge). I had someone scream "WAKE UP" in my ear just in time for me to get back into the lane and make it to where I was staying. I was certainly alone in my car.

I've shared that story many times. I'm not only thankful that I'm alive, but that I didn't harm anyone else.

Sometimes we're allowed to survive our stupidity in order share what we learned with others.

In no way am I vouching for anything else that guy is saying (because I haven't watched it). I just saw the part in the beginning and recognized the similarity.

38.5 years ago I had the same thing happen!!!!!! Backing up a bit, CPS had taken my 1.5 year old daughter away because our doctor accused us of not feeding her. Most of a year later it was determined my daughter had a medical problem labeled "failure to thrive". Long story short we sued and got her back, and I might add with the Father's help in many ways.

But the relevant part of my story pertaining to your post is that I was working 40 hours a week in four days, then drove down to Tucson, a 4 hour trip, to relieve my wife who CPS had put in a home for abusive mothers which was a bizarre experience to say the least, but I stayed in a separate house. The wife would go home to take care of bills, etc, and see her friends, then come back on Sunday afternoon so I could drive back to work on Monday morning. Rinse and repeat because this went on for months. I was exhausted emotionally, physically, and mentally. I'd fight falling asleep on the road when it got late and would pray to God that I could stay awake. But I fell asleep hard, and it wasn't like when I fought falling asleep, I had succumbed. I was awakened by a voice coming behind me saying the exact same thing WAKE UP! I jerked awake and barely averted sideswiping the mountain side at 75 mph and possibly over correcting across the road into a canyon! A angel, the Lord Jesus, I'm not sure whos voice it was.
Thanks Lord either way!

I recall other times my life was spared by the grace of God but not by a voice.
 
38.5 years ago I had the same thing happen!!!!!! Backing up a bit, CPS had taken my 1.5 year old daughter away because our doctor accused us of not feeding her. Most of a year later it was determined my daughter had a medical problem labeled "failure to thrive". Long story short we sued and got her back, and I might add with the Father's help in many ways.

But the relevant part of my story pertaining to your post is that I was working 40 hours a week in four days, then drove down to Tucson, a 4 hour trip, to relieve my wife who CPS had put in a home for abusive mothers which was a bizarre experience to say the least, but I stayed in a separate house. The wife would go home to take care of bills, etc, and see her friends, then come back on Sunday afternoon so I could drive back to work on Monday morning. Rinse and repeat because this went on for months. I was exhausted emotionally, physically, and mentally. I'd fight falling asleep on the road when it got late and would pray to God that I could stay awake. But I fell asleep hard, and it wasn't like when I fought falling asleep, I had succumbed. I was awakened by a voice coming behind me saying the exact same thing WAKE UP! I jerked awake and barely averted sideswiping the mountain side at 75 mph and possibly over correcting across the road into a canyon! A angel, the Lord Jesus, I'm not sure whos voice it was.
Thanks Lord either way!

I recall other times my life was spared by the grace of God but not by a voice.

Glad you made it!

Unfortunately for me, mine was just out of stupidity. I used to think (I was 21-22 at the time) that if I wiped out doing stupid crap on the roads because I was full of liquor, that I'd only take myself out and not harm anyone else. This was backwoods SC. Only later when I matured, did I realize both how blessed and how stupid I was.

Depending on the audience, I share that story when it comes to giving my message of grace and what it means to me. While I didn't become apostate, I certainly turned my back on the principles of my faith for close to 15 years. I am extremely grateful for the opportunity to inch my way back every day.

I understand that there are people who are atheists, and I harbor no ill-will against them. I just can't believe what they believe having experienced what I have in my life.

*****

That being said, I certainly believe that a third of the heavenly host has turned their back on the Father and been cast out of heaven and down to earth - just like the original 'bad guy'. That would be a hell of a lot (pun intended) of spirits running around that have the ability to possess an unsaved human and do work that is counter-productive to the intentions of God.

They know they've lost the war. Now it is up to them to use the "delay" tactic to put off the inevitable end for them for as long as possible, while harming as many humans as possible to spread hurt and suffering. This is spiritual warfare summed up in two sentences.

When I see certain individuals in government and influencing government (Newsome, Soros, etc... etc...) I can't help but feel as if I am looking at one of those rebellious hosts personified...maybe even possessed.
 
38.5 years ago I had the same thing happen!!!!!! Backing up a bit, CPS had taken my 1.5 year old daughter away because our doctor accused us of not feeding her. Most of a year later it was determined my daughter had a medical problem labeled "failure to thrive". Long story short we sued and got her back, and I might add with the Father's help in many ways.

But the relevant part of my story pertaining to your post is that I was working 40 hours a week in four days, then drove down to Tucson, a 4 hour trip, to relieve my wife who CPS had put in a home for abusive mothers which was a bizarre experience to say the least, but I stayed in a separate house. The wife would go home to take care of bills, etc, and see her friends, then come back on Sunday afternoon so I could drive back to work on Monday morning. Rinse and repeat because this went on for months. I was exhausted emotionally, physically, and mentally. I'd fight falling asleep on the road when it got late and would pray to God that I could stay awake. But I fell asleep hard, and it wasn't like when I fought falling asleep, I had succumbed. I was awakened by a voice coming behind me saying the exact same thing WAKE UP! I jerked awake and barely averted sideswiping the mountain side at 75 mph and possibly over correcting across the road into a canyon! A angel, the Lord Jesus, I'm not sure whos voice it was.
Thanks Lord either way!

I recall other times my life was spared by the grace of God but not by a voice.
I’ve heard words spoken into my mind several times. Things like “It doesn’t matter”, “Ride it out”, or “This is over”. Usually I feel like doing the opposite.
 
IMO there is a separation of families, and beliefs, when it comes to the tribes of Israel. I refer to the side that Yeshua/Jesus came from as the Hebrews, then others as Jews, but the occultist Talmudic followers can be considered an extreme antichrist sect and deep in the spirit of the evil one. The Unfree Mason cult being akin.

Aside from that there are many false religions, even pseudo Christianity in name only.
One thing is for sure.
John 4:16 states "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
 
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Never heard a voice but can count at minimum 3 times where I was saved!

Bender, sorry to be OT.

About 15 years ago I had a brake malfunction on track day racing my GSXR1000. Going 185 mph down the straight it was time to slow down for the upcoming 90mph turn, then it happened, "NO front brake to ALL front brake", within 2 seconds later, if that. So I went airborne out the front of the bike endo'ing at, I figure, around 140 mph.
I got a slight concussion, broke two fingers, and my left elbow got ground down some, but I had no serious injuries otherwise. I walked out of the hospital the next morning.

Just prior to this my wife got a sudden urgency to pray for me and she knew something was about to happen! My friend called her minutes later telling her what had transpired.

I fixed the bike then sold it.

God is good!
 
In the words of Jesus himself.

Mathew 21:43

Ironically, the same chapter is where he cleanses the Temple.

Who did he cleanse the Temple from?


43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.


Why can you say they are still “the chosen people”? When Jesus said it himself?

This is the lie the synagogue of Satan still uses. They are liars and thier father is a liar. Revelation 2:9

Honestly, Bender brother man, I'm gonna let this one go and let God take care of it instead. Because we ultimately have absolutely no f'ing clue. :)

Is Israel no longer the chosen people of the old testament? Well....Then answer this one for me. I always came to understand that Israel as a nation belongs to Jesus Christ and God. From Moses to eternity. When Jesus Christ returns the second time to save Israel from obliteration(Gog/Magog invasion first, then the final battle at Megiddo last), Why would Jesus set His temple to be in Jerusalem for His Millennial reign if the people of Israel are NOT the "chosen people" as promised long ago? Why would He do that if Israel lost their covenant in Matthew 21:43?

Answer me that one and I'll agree that Israel are no longer the people of promise and Jerusalem is not where Jesus will establish His kingdom when He comes back. ;)
 
Honestly, Bender brother man, I'm gonna let this one go and let God take care of it instead. Because we ultimately have absolutely no f'ing clue. :)

Is Israel no longer the chosen people of the old testament? Well....Then answer this one for me. I always came to understand that Israel as a nation belongs to Jesus Christ and God. From Moses to eternity. When Jesus Christ returns the second time to save Israel from obliteration(Gog/Magog invasion first, then the final battle at Megiddo last), Why would Jesus set His temple to be in Jerusalem for His Millennial reign if the people of Israel are NOT the "chosen people" as promised long ago? Why would He do that if Israel lost their covenant in Matthew 21:43?

Answer me that one and I'll agree that Israel are no longer the people of promise and Jerusalem is not where Jesus will establish His kingdom when He comes back. ;)

Ephesians 2: 11-22 specifically answers that. I'll not take sides on that in here, other than state my own position that this section of verses lays it out fairly clear for everyone.

Actually Ephesians 2 is my favorite chapter in the Bible.
 
Honestly, Bender brother man, I'm gonna let this one go and let God take care of it instead. Because we ultimately have absolutely no f'ing clue. :)

Is Israel no longer the chosen people of the old testament? Well....Then answer this one for me. I always came to understand that Israel as a nation belongs to Jesus Christ and God. From Moses to eternity. When Jesus Christ returns the second time to save Israel from obliteration(Gog/Magog invasion first, then the final battle at Megiddo last), Why would Jesus set His temple to be in Jerusalem for His Millennial reign if the people of Israel are NOT the "chosen people" as promised long ago? Why would He do that if Israel lost their covenant in Matthew 21:43?

Answer me that one and I'll agree that Israel are no longer the people of promise and Jerusalem is not where Jesus will establish His kingdom when He comes back. ;)
Simple, they lost the covenant because they killed Jesus Christ. The people that are still under the covenant, which includes the Jewish line, are those who seek for Christ and his repentance.

Please do not construed this as bad feelings or arguing. It is simply my opinion, and is supported by scripture. I agree I do not know everything, as nobody does. And it will be interesting when he returns to see what happens.
 
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Simple, they lost the covenant because they killed Jesus Christ. The people that are still under the covenant, which includes the Jewish line, are those who seek for Christ and his repentance.

Please do not construed this as bad feelings or arguing. It is simply my opinion, and is supported by scripture. I agree I do not know everything, as nobody does. And it will be interesting when he returns to see what happens.

Not at all man!! I'm just chattin', dude! And wanting to learn something biblically I may not have known about. Label me curious. There is absolutely zero rise in blood pressure, irritation or drop in my respect for a fellow man over this. :)

This is just a perspective I have not heard of. I was always taught and learned by reading the bible, perhaps incorrectly in my own interpretation, that Israel are God's people and that His kingdom will return to Jerusalem once He comes back. Whenever that time is.
 
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Not at all man!! I'm just chattin', dude! And wanting to learn something biblically I may not have known about. Label me curious. There is absolutely zero rise in blood pressure, irritation or drop in my respect for a fellow man over this. :)

This is just a perspective I have not heard of. I was always taught and learned by reading the bible, perhaps incorrectly in my own interpretation, that Israel are God's people and that His kingdom will return to Jerusalem once He comes back. Whenever that time is.

You've been led astray by those who want to enslave you by claiming that they are special people regardless of what they do and how they reject the Saviour Jesus Christ.

The House of Israel is those who accept and worship Jesus Christ.

At some point in time, those physical descendants of Jacob who have not embraced worshiping Satan will be dramatically shown the error of their ways and will be given the chance to accept their true messiah Jesus Christ and come back into the house of Israel.

Physical ancestry does not provide any shortcut or side path to salvation.

Read the Old Testament.

God smote the Jews and drove them out and obliterated their country and cast them off for their rebellion against Him.
Then later on those that repented were allowed to be brought back and gathered together.

You have to realize how much American Christianity has been influenced by Jewish lobby groups and Israeli lobby groups who are all trying to pervert the Christian teachings so they can use the stupid goy as their useful slaves.
 
You've been led astray by those who want to enslave you by claiming that they are special people regardless of what they do and how they reject the Saviour Jesus Christ.

The House of Israel is those who accept and worship Jesus Christ.

At some point in time, those physical descendants of Jacob who have not embraced worshiping Satan will be dramatically shown the error of their ways and will be given the chance to accept their true messiah Jesus Christ and come back into the house of Israel.

Physical ancestry does not provide any shortcut or side path to salvation.

Read the Old Testament.

God smote the Jews and drove them out and obliterated their country and cast them off for their rebellion against Him.
Then later on those that repented were allowed to be brought back and gathered together.

You have to realize how much American Christianity has been influenced by Jewish lobby groups and Israeli lobby groups who are all trying to pervert the Christian teachings so they can use the stupid goy as their useful slaves.
This ^^^^
 
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You've been led astray by those who want to enslave you by claiming that they are special people regardless of what they do and how they reject the Saviour Jesus Christ.

The House of Israel is those who accept and worship Jesus Christ.

At some point in time, those physical descendants of Jacob who have not embraced worshiping Satan will be dramatically shown the error of their ways and will be given the chance to accept their true messiah Jesus Christ and come back into the house of Israel.

Physical ancestry does not provide any shortcut or side path to salvation.

Read the Old Testament.

God smote the Jews and drove them out and obliterated their country and cast them off for their rebellion against Him.
Then later on those that repented were allowed to be brought back and gathered together.

You have to realize how much American Christianity has been influenced by Jewish lobby groups and Israeli lobby groups who are all trying to pervert the Christian teachings so they can use the stupid goy as their useful slaves.

Perhaps it is my misconstrued or maybe my minute limited interpretations of of the bible. You hit the nail on the head by saying "The House of Israel is those who accept and worship Jesus Christ." You could essentially negate the rest of your statement, IMHO. After that....We are signed, sealed and delivered by faith.

Those of humanity who reject Jesus Christ(and His teachings) are negated from those who receive His eternal blessings by faith, at the end of the ages(from my understanding, anyway). All I know ultimately is this brother; I know absolutely NOTHING. I am simply a sinful man, simply trying to find my way by reading the bible and gaining strength in faith in Him who saved us all. *edit while trying to make sense of all the "last generation" signs given to better fit in where I belong*

I'm just as lost as anyone else without faith. 🤙
 
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You've been led astray by those who want to enslave you by claiming that they are special people regardless of what they do and how they reject the Saviour Jesus Christ.

The House of Israel is those who accept and worship Jesus Christ.

At some point in time, those physical descendants of Jacob who have not embraced worshiping Satan will be dramatically shown the error of their ways and will be given the chance to accept their true messiah Jesus Christ and come back into the house of Israel.

Physical ancestry does not provide any shortcut or side path to salvation.

Read the Old Testament.

God smote the Jews and drove them out and obliterated their country and cast them off for their rebellion against Him.
Then later on those that repented were allowed to be brought back and gathered together.

You have to realize how much American Christianity has been influenced by Jewish lobby groups and Israeli lobby groups who are all trying to pervert the Christian teachings so they can use the stupid goy as their useful slaves.
I have been reading the OT again...........we agree on the first 5 books (those are the Torah)....then some folks did some things.....and Jesus dies for you and me....and the New Testament is written. And let me tell you, everyone really likes the NT, and services sure do seem to lean into the NT as well.....funny thing, we agree on the 1st 5 books...Jesus gets whacked....NT comes out for you and me, the Talmud comes out for them. (The overwhelming odds are it is in part influenced to obscure truth / You are responsible for your own relationship with God)

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I've met folks from all walks of life- Jews, Catholics (all kinds of them), Baptists, Methodists, Jehovah Witnesses, Wiccans, Atheists, Agnostics, Hindu's, Muslims, etc.

I've known Masons (of all... I'll say preferences), Knights of Columbus, Lions, Rotary Club Members, Eagles, Moose's, Elk's, VFW, American Legion, Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Green Party etc etc.

I don't think I've lived that sheltered of a life and many of the above "categories" I have at least one from that "group" that I can call a friend but I've yet to come across a Satanist or an attractive female nudist. I'm not saying they don't exist but.. frankly I haven't come across one to date.

Satanists in Government... maybe, I won't rule it out at least. But that being said- I just have an awfully hard time accepting this as an otherwise national crisis.

I'm ok with being proven wrong on this particular topic but Satanists... this particular 'buzz word' just strikes me as noise personally. Yeah- there may be a handful of 'em and yeah, I might not have ever gotten around to meeting them but can anyone blame me? I've got my hands full with both the man hating feminists and the women hating MGTOW crowds.

I did hear an interesting joke though (I didn't even know this was a 'thing' before this week but always wondered wtf it was about) but that being said... you know why feminists continue to put rings through their noses...? Because no self-respecting man would ever otherwise put a 'ring on their finger'. Cue the drum roll.

-LD
 
I have been reading the OT again...........we agree on the first 5 books (those are the Torah)....then some folks did some things.....and Jesus dies for you and me....and the New Testament is written. And let me tell you, everyone really likes the NT, and services sure do seem to lean into the NT as well.....funny thing, we agree on the 1st 5 books...Jesus gets whacked....NT comes out for you and me, the Talmud comes out for them. (The overwhelming odds are it is in part influenced to obscure truth / You are responsible for your own relationship with God)

I would actually say that the Entire Old Testament is of great value to Christians as well as to those of the Jewish faith.
A detailed study of the complete Old Testament will give you a very informative and detailed understanding of many parts about God and faith.

The Talmud on the other hand is essentially 3000 years of Jewish lawyers and lawyer clerics arguing and discussing over every last little bit of details regarding religious rules and specifically all the work arounds and how to do what you want to do while still technically keeping the rules.
It's essentially a law and rule book made up by generations of religious rulers.
 
while trying to make sense of all the "last generation" signs given to better fit in where I belong*

So about that "last generation" and "signs of the end" thing.

That is where a lot of people get led astray by false teachers trying to gain fame, power, wealth and following by making unfounded and outlandish claims.

The signs that it's the actual end of times are very incredibly specific and don't apply to anything happening now.

The Actual real servants of Satan talk about their plans which align well with the scriptures.

Something happens that makes the entire Earth desperate for deliverance and a saviour and someone to rescue them.
(Remember this has to be essentially worse than humanity has experienced before, so worse than WWI, worse than WWII worse than the Civil war)

The False Messiah (essentially the Illuminated One) will appear showing amazing signs and wonders and abilities beyond human abilities and will offer the world a path to salvation if all the world would bow down and worship Him.

There will be some worldwide agreement for 7 years to submit to the rule of the false saviour.

Then things start counting down and you can start reading the exact signs and dates and lengths of time.

I don't know when or how the first part starts.
Don't believe anyone telling you they have the exact details of when it kicks off.
Don't believe anyone telling you it's "already secretly happening".
You'll see it when it happens and it won't be something you can mistake.

It may not come in your lifetime and be fully prepared for that, as actually it's more likely than not, to not be in your lifetime, but always be ready just in case.

If a bunch of "benevolent Aliens" show up to help fix the Earth and show us the better path... yep it's the Illuminated One don't fall for it...
 
I would actually say that the Entire Old Testament is of great value to Christians as well as to those of the Jewish faith.
A detailed study of the complete Old Testament will give you a very informative and detailed understanding of many parts about God and faith.

The Talmud on the other hand is essentially 3000 years of Jewish lawyers and lawyer clerics arguing and discussing over every last little bit of details regarding religious rules and specifically all the work arounds and how to do what you want to do while still technically keeping the rules.
It's essentially a law and rule book made up by generations of religious rulers.
My apologies for not being more clear about my thought, which is that the OT is less likely to have been adulterated / manipulated / outright fabricated by folks that want to lead others astray. The OT (at least from what I have gathered throughout my lifetime of parochial schools, people around me, and services attended) is not referenced, studied, nor regarded quite like the NT. The NT is a little softer story, a little more relatable, a little more forgiving.....

I don't think it matters if we are talking about specific text / translations in one's Bible, what books are included v excluded by organized religion, outliers like the Scofield bible, or even the Papal States (where your family could buy into the Papacy - and if you paid enough, be the Pope) - some folks have been bullshitting others with a purpose since they started writing this stuff down. Where we have commonalities, we are probably a little closer to the truth.

IMHO.
 
38.5 years ago I had the same thing happen!!!!!! Backing up a bit, CPS had taken my 1.5 year old daughter away because our doctor accused us of not feeding her. Most of a year later it was determined my daughter had a medical problem labeled "failure to thrive". Long story short we sued and got her back, and I might add with the Father's help in many ways.

But the relevant part of my story pertaining to your post is that I was working 40 hours a week in four days, then drove down to Tucson, a 4 hour trip, to relieve my wife who CPS had put in a home for abusive mothers which was a bizarre experience to say the least, but I stayed in a separate house. The wife would go home to take care of bills, etc, and see her friends, then come back on Sunday afternoon so I could drive back to work on Monday morning. Rinse and repeat because this went on for months. I was exhausted emotionally, physically, and mentally. I'd fight falling asleep on the road when it got late and would pray to God that I could stay awake. But I fell asleep hard, and it wasn't like when I fought falling asleep, I had succumbed. I was awakened by a voice coming behind me saying the exact same thing WAKE UP! I jerked awake and barely averted sideswiping the mountain side at 75 mph and possibly over correcting across the road into a canyon! A angel, the Lord Jesus, I'm not sure whos voice it was.
Thanks Lord either way!

I recall other times my life was spared by the grace of God but not by a voice.
I’ve heard words spoken into my mind several times. Things like “It doesn’t matter”, “Ride it out”, or “This is over”. Usually I feel like doing the opposite.
 
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I’ve heard words spoken into my mind several times. Things like “It doesn’t matter”, “Ride it out”, or “This is over”. Usually I feel like doing the opposite.
I 'liked' your same quote earlier in this thread.

It's human nature. We want our way which eventually costs us in pain somehow one way or another, vs God's way which might be painful now, by wounding our pride and quashing our selfish desires, but eventually we end up the better.

I know what you mean though! We all do.
 
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This thread has been very interesting. I never have given much thought to the Jews being God’s chosen people as that was accepted as truth, and clearly so from an Old Testament perspective.

But with the rejection of Jesus and his crucifixion, it is not so clear that they still are the chosen.

Maybe they get one more chance when Jesus returns, but Jesus’s own words recorded in John 8:42 are chilling to read.

I’ll not copy the whole paragraph, but Jesus said to the Jews, “You belong to your father, the devil…”, and “The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”

That’s pretty clear to me!
 
Here's a pretty interesting website, showing how Masons and Christianity are in direct confliction of the other and how to minister to men of the ancient evil craft, if you know any.

Link : Ephesians 5:11 "Do not participate in the useless deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them."

As a prior mason, I can vouch for the accuracy of what is said on this website(grips, phrases, rituals etc) and what was spoken to me within the lodge walls. Near exact.

That oath of secrecy can go f***k itself.....I'll tell the whole world. :sneaky:
 
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Here's a pretty interesting website, showing how Masons and Christianity are in direct confliction of the other and how to minister to men of the ancient evil craft, if you know any.

Link : Ephesians 5:11 "Do not participate in the useless deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them."

As a prior mason, I can vouch for the accuracy of what is said on this website(grips, phrases, rituals etc) and what was spoken to me within the lodge walls. Near exact.

That oath of secrecy can go f***k itself.....I'll tell the whole world. :sneaky:
Then tell us, lay it bare...
 
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Temple of Set​


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"Setianism" redirects here. For the branch of Gnosticism, see Sethianism. For worship of Satan, see Satanism.
The Temple of Set is an occult initiatory orderfounded in 1975. A new religious movementand form of Western esotericism, the Temple espouses a religion known as Setianism, whose practitioners are called Setians. This is sometimes identified as a form of Satanism, although this term is not often embraced by Setians and is contested by some academics.
Temple of Set
Temple of Set (logo).png
AbbreviationTOS
TypeOccult
ClassificationReligious organization, Magical order
OrientationWestern esotericism
ScriptureThe Book of Coming Forth by Night
TheologySetianism
GovernancePriesthood
StructureInitiatory order
FounderMichael A. Aquino
Origin1975
San Francisco, California
Separated fromChurch of Satan(1975)
Members200–500 (estimate)[dubiousdiscuss]
Tax statusExempt
Official websitexeper.info
The Temple was established in the United States in 1975 by Michael Angelo Aquino, an American political scientist, military officer, and a high-ranking member of Anton LaVey's Church of Satan. Dissatisfied with the direction in which LaVey was taking the Church, Aquino resigned and – according to his own claim – embarked on a ritual to invoke Satan, who revealed to him a sacred text called The Book of Coming Forth by Night. According to Aquino, in this work Satan revealed his true name to be that of Set, which had been the name used by his followers in ancient Egypt. Aquino was joined in establishing the Temple by a number of other dissatisfied members of LaVey's Church, and soon various Setian groups were established across the United States.
Setians believe that Set is the one real god and that he has aided humanity by giving them a questioning intellect, the "Black Flame", which distinguishes them from other animal species. Set is held in high esteem as a teacher whose example is to be emulated but he is not worshipped as a deity. Highly individualistic in basis, the Temple promotes the idea that practitioners should seek self-deification and thus attain an immortality of consciousness. Setians believe in the existence of magic as a force which can be manipulated through ritual, however the nature of these rituals is not prescribed by the Temple. Specifically, Aquino described Setian practices as "black magic", a term which he defines idiosyncratically.
Following initiation into the Temple, a Setian can proceed along a series of six degrees, each of which requires greater responsibilities to the group; as a result, most members remain in the first two degrees. Governed by a high priest or high priestess and a wider Council of Nine, the Temple is also divided into groups known as pylons, through which Setians can meet or correspond in order to advance their magical work in a particular area. Pylons of the Temple are now present in the United States, Australia, and Europe, with estimates placing the Temple's membership between 200 and 500.

DefinitionEdit

The Temple of Set is a new religious movement,[1] and draws upon earlier forms of Western esotericism.[2] Among academic scholars of religious studies, there has been some debate as to whether the Temple of Set can be characterized as "Satanism" or not. The religious studies scholars Asbjorn Dyrendal, Massimo Introvigne, James R. Lewis, and Jesper Aa. Petersen describe the Temple of Set as a Satanic group, despite its reluctance to use the term "Satanism", because it is an offshoot of the Church of Satan which continues to use satanic mythology.[3][4]Conversely, the scholar Kennet Granholm argued that it should not be considered a form of Satanism because it does not place an emphasis on the figure of Satan. Granholm acknowledged that it was an "actor in the Satanic milieu" and part of the wider left-hand path group of esoteric traditions.[5] He suggested that it could also be seen as a form of "Post-Satanism", thereby continuing to reflect its historical origins within religious Satanism.[6]
The Temple of Set is far more rooted in esoteric ideas than the Church of Satan had been.[7] It has thus been termed "Esoteric Satanism", a term used to contrast it with the "Rational Satanism" found in LaVeyan Satanism.[8] Accordingly, it has been labelled the "intellectual wing of esoteric Satanism",[9]with the Temple presenting itself as an intellectual religion.[10] Aquino possessed a P.h.D. in political science and this formal education was reflected in the way that he presented his arguments, in which he draws broadly upon Western philosophy and science.[11]

HistoryEdit

FoundationEdit


Aquino with his wife Lilith in 1999
Born in 1946, Michael Aquino was a military intelligence officer specializing in psychological warfare.[12] In 1969 he joined Anton LaVey's Church of Satan and rose rapidly through the group's ranks.[13] In 1970, while he was serving with the U.S. military during the Vietnam War, Aquino was stationed in Bến Cát in South Vietnam when he wrote a tract titled "Diabolicon" in which he reflected upon his growing divergence from the Church of Satan's doctrines.[14] In this tract, teachings about the creation of the world, God, and humanity are presented, as is the dualistic idea that Satan complements God.[15] The character of Lucifer is presented as bringing insight to human society,[16] a depiction of Lucifer that was inherited from John Milton's seventeenth-century epic poem Paradise Lost.[17]

Lieutenant colonel Michael Aquino specialized in psychological warfare
By 1971 Aquino was ranked as a Magister Caverns of the IV° within the Church's hierarchy, was editor of its publication The Cloven Hoof, and sat on its governing Council of Nine.[12] In 1973 he rose to the previously unattained rank of Magister Templi of IV°.[12]According to the scholars of Satanism Per Faxneld and Jesper Petersen, Aquino had become LaVey's "right-hand man".[18] There were nonetheless things that Aquino disliked about the Church of Satan; he thought that it had attracted many "fad-followers, egomaniacs, and assorted oddballs, whose primary interest in becoming Satanists was to flash their membership cards for cocktail-party notoriety".[19] When, in 1975, LaVey abolished the system of regional groups, or grottos, and declared that in the future all degrees would be given in exchange for financial or other contributions to the Church, Aquino became increasingly disaffected; he resigned from the organization on June 10, 1975.[20] While LaVey seems to have held a pragmatic and practical view of the degrees and of the Satanic priesthood, intending them to reflect the social role of the degree holder within the organization, Aquino and his supporters viewed the priesthood as being spiritual, sacred and irrevocable.[21] Dyrendal, Lewis, and Petersen describe Aquino as, in effect, accusing LaVey of the sacrilege of simony.[21]
Aquino then provided what has been described as a "foundation myth" for his Setian religion.[22] Having departed the Church, he embarked on a ritual intent on asking Satan for advice on what to do next.[23] According to his account, at Midsummer 1975, Satan appeared and revealed that he wanted to be known by his true name, Set, which had been the name used by his worshippers in ancient Egypt.[24] Aquino produced a religious text, The Book of Coming Forth by Night, which he alleged had been revealed to him by Set through a process of automatic writing.[25] According to Aquino, "there was nothing overtly sensational, supernatural, or melodramatic about The Book of Coming Forth By Night working. I simply sat down and wrote it."[26] The book proclaimed Aquino to be the Magus of the new Aeon of Set and the heir to LaVey's "infernal mandate".[27]Aquino later stated that the revelation that Satan was Set necessitated his own exploration of Egyptology, a subject about which he had previously known comparatively little.[28]

Historian of religion Mattias Gardell.[12]
Aquino's Book of Coming Forth by Night makes reference to The Book of the Law, a similarly 'revealed' text produced by the occultist Aleister Crowley in 1904 which provided the basis for Crowley's religion of Thelema. In Aquino's book, The Book of the Law was presented as a genuine spiritual text given to Crowley by preternatural sources, but it was also declared that Crowley had misunderstood both its origin and message.[29] In making reference to The Book of the Law, Aquino presented himself as being as much Crowley's heir as LaVey's,[30] and Aquino's work would engage with Crowley's writings and beliefs to a far greater extent than LaVey ever did.[7]
In establishing the Temple, Aquino was joined by other ex-members of LaVey's Church,[12]and soon Setian groups, or pylons, were established in various parts of the United States.[12] The structure of the Temple was based largely on those of the ceremonial magical orders of the late nineteenth century, such as the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and Ordo Templi Orientis.[31] Aquino has stated that he believed LaVey not to be merely a charismatic leader but to have been actually appointed by Satan himself (referring to this charismatic authority as the "Infernal Mandate") to found the Church.[32] After the split of 1975, Aquino believed LaVey had lost the mandate, which the "Prince of Darkness" then transferred to Aquino and a new organization, the Temple of Set.[32] According to both the historian of religion Mattias Gardelland journalist Gavin Baddeley, Aquino displayed an "obsession" with LaVey after his departure from the Church, for instance by publicly releasing court documents that reflected negatively on his former mentor, among them restraining orders, divorce proceedings, and a bankruptcy filing.[33] In turn, LaVey lampooned the new Temple as "Laurel and Hardy's Sons of the Desert".[34] In 1975, the Temple incorporated as a non-profit Church in California, and later that year secured state and federal recognition and tax-exempted status.[35]

Later developmentEdit


Aquino established his Order of the Trapezoid at Wewelsburg castle in Germany (pictured)
Many members of the Temple had voiced their opposition to Aquino's position of power within it.[36] Aquino relinquished his office of High Priest in 1979 to Ronald Keith Barrett,[37] who produced an inspired text of his own, titled The Book of Opening the Way.[38] Barrett's approach was later criticized as "more mystical than magical" by Temple members.[39]Barrett's leadership was also criticized as authoritarian,[40] resulting in a decline in the Temple's membership.[38] Barrett resigned his office and severed ties with the organization in May 1982.[37] He subsequently established his own Temple of Anubis, which he led until his 1998 death; it survived until the early 2010s.[36] After Barrett's departure, Aquino retook leadership of the Temple of Set.[36] During this period, the sociologist Gini Graham Scottclandestinely participated in the Temple, using her observations as the basis for her 1983 book The Magicians: A Study of the Use of Power in a Black Magic Group.[41]
After receiving his PhD in political science from the University of California, Santa Barbara in 1980, Aquino worked as an adjunct professorat Golden Gate University until 1986 while continuing to serve in the United States Armyas an Active Guard Reserve officer at the Presidio of San Francisco.[42] He was fascinated with the connections between occultism and Nazism,[43] resulting in some accusations that he was sympathetic to Nazi ideology.[44] In 1983, he performed a solitary rite at Walhalla, the subterranean section of the Wewelsburg castle in Germany that was utilized as a ceremonial space by the Schutzstaffel's Ahnenerbe group during the Nazi period. This resulted in his formation of the Order of the Trapezoid, a Setian group whose members understood themselves as a chivalric order of knights.[45] From 1987 through to 1995, the Grand Master of the Order of the Trapezoid was Edred Thorsson, who had joined the Temple of Set in 1984 and risen to the Fifth Degree in 1990.[46] Thorsson exerted a "discernible influence" over the Setian community through his books, in which he combined aspects of Satanic philosophy with the modern Pagan religion of Heathenry.[47] In 1980, he founded the Texas-based Rune-Gild which shared many of the Temple's key philosophical tenets but with a focus on the study of runes and their applications in magical practice.[48]

Don Webb (high priest 1996–2002)
In the 1980s, Aquino attracted greater publicity for his Temple through appearances on television talk shows like The Oprah Winfrey Show and Geraldo.[18] In 1987, during the Satanic ritual abuse hysteria, the three-year-old daughter of a Christian clergyman accused Aquino of sexually abusing her during Satanic rites held at his Russian Hill home. Responding to the allegations, police raided Aquino's home, however—after no evidence was found to substantiate the allegation and it was revealed that Aquino was living in Washington D.C. at the time of the alleged abuse—the police decided not to charge him with any felony.[49]Aquino attempted to bring formal charges against the chaplain and psychiatrist who had encouraged the girl's claims, although he was more successful in bringing legal action against two books—Carl A. Raschke's Painted Black and Linda Blood's The New Satanists—that had suggested that he was guilty.[50] He then left the Presidio and was transferred to St. Louis.[51] In 1994, Aquino retired from active service in the Army, being honourably transferred to the Retired Reserve and awarded the Meritorious Service Medal.[52]
While the Satanic ritual abuse hysteria declined, Aquino continued to be a figure of prominence in "mind control" conspiracy theories because of his career as a psychological warfare officer in the US Army.[53] In the United Kingdom during this same period, tabloids like the News of the World and Sunday Mirror published sensationalist articles about the Temple.[54] In the mid-1990s, a group of British Setians approached the religious studies scholar Graham Harvey and encouraged him to conduct research into the group so as to combat misconceptions about them.[55] The Temple first registered a website in 1997, the same year as the Church of Satan.[56] It would also establish its own intranet, allowing for communication between Setians in different parts of the world.[5]
One member of the Temple was the New Zealander Kerry Bolton, who split to form his own Order of The Left Hand Path in 1990.[57] In 1995, another couple who joined were LaVey's daughter Zeena Schreck and her husband Nikolas Schreck, both of whom were vocal critics of Zeena's father.[58]
In 1996, Don Webb became the high priest of the Temple, a position that he held until 2002.[59] He was replaced by Zeena Schreck, but she resigned after six weeks and was replaced by Aquino, who took charge once more.[59] In that year, Zeena led a schism within the organization[9] establishing her own Berlin-based group, The Storm, which she later renamed the Sethian Liberation Movement.[60]
Aquino stood down as Supreme Priest again in 2004, to be replaced by Patricia Hardy who was elected to the position of Supreme Priestess.[60] Although no longer in charge of the organization, he nevertheless remained its most visible spokesperson.[60]
Aquino died in July 2020 at the age of 73.[61]

 
Simple, they lost the covenant because they killed Jesus Christ. The people that are still under the covenant, which includes the Jewish line, are those who seek for Christ and his repentance.

Please do not construed this as bad feelings or arguing. It is simply my opinion, and is supported by scripture. I agree I do not know everything, as nobody does. And it will be interesting when he returns to see what happens.
But it was not everyone. Many coverts, even Matthew who you quoted earlier was a jewish tax collector.

Jesus’s killing was pushed by the Sanhedrin because he was appealing to too many, undercutting their grip on power and calling them out.

It was also all part of his plan.
 
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Then tell us, lay it bare...

Not sure what you want me to say other than the free and accepted masonic "fraternity" is a global cabal of men who swear by oaths of secrecy that pertain to the occult and satan. The organization is deeply involved in every branch of governance across the globe and anyone seeking a political position, hollywood stardom or any reputable position of influence is not given that position unless cleared thru the lodge or they become a member of it.
 
You've been led astray by those who want to enslave you by claiming that they are special people regardless of what they do and how they reject the Saviour Jesus Christ.

The House of Israel is those who accept and worship Jesus Christ.

At some point in time, those physical descendants of Jacob who have not embraced worshiping Satan will be dramatically shown the error of their ways and will be given the chance to accept their true messiah Jesus Christ and come back into the house of Israel.

Physical ancestry does not provide any shortcut or side path to salvation.

Read the Old Testament.

God smote the Jews and drove them out and obliterated their country and cast them off for their rebellion against Him.
Then later on those that repented were allowed to be brought back and gathered together.

You have to realize how much American Christianity has been influenced by Jewish lobby groups and Israeli lobby groups who are all trying to pervert the Christian teachings so they can use the stupid goy as their useful slaves.
Dispensationalism enabled those lobbyist groups & perverted Christian teachings.
 
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Honestly, Bender brother man, I'm gonna let this one go and let God take care of it instead. Because we ultimately have absolutely no f'ing clue. :)

Is Israel no longer the chosen people of the old testament? Well....Then answer this one for me. I always came to understand that Israel as a nation belongs to Jesus Christ and God. From Moses to eternity. When Jesus Christ returns the second time to save Israel from obliteration(Gog/Magog invasion first, then the final battle at Megiddo last), Why would Jesus set His temple to be in Jerusalem for His Millennial reign if the people of Israel are NOT the "chosen people" as promised long ago? Why would He do that if Israel lost their covenant in Matthew 21:43?

Answer me that one and I'll agree that Israel are no longer the people of promise and Jerusalem is not where Jesus will establish His kingdom when He comes back. ;)
Gog & Magog aren’t until AFTER the 1000 year reign, which follows the battle of Armageddon.

“Israel” didn’t lose the covenant so much as they rejected it.
 
Gog & Magog aren’t until AFTER the 1000 year reign, which follows the battle of Armageddon.

“Israel” didn’t lose the covenant so much as they rejected it.
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I was under the belief that the magog invasion is what kicks off the tribulation? Or rather, one of the main pinnacle events leading up to it. The Pslam 83 war seems to have already seen completion with the destruction of Damascucs. Though, I know not if Demascus has been destroyed in entirety?

But, what do you have to support the Magog invasion comes AFTER the millennial reign of Jesus Christ? It reads as though it happens before the S really HTF during Jacobs Troubles and tribulation.

Teach me, brother. Im curious. Cheers!
 
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I pray America will last, but the dead will indeed be spared the End Times. Say from wrathIMHO

Well there's tribulation part one, tribulation part two, and then Armageddon /apocalypse. Saved from wrath IMHO is individual judgment afterwards. The purpose of disclosing and times it so that we will not be afraid.

^ I only made it ~1:30 into the video.

I tried to kill myself in the very same way (passing out drunk behind the wheel going somewhere between 60 and 90 MPH and heading toward a concrete bridge). I had someone scream "WAKE UP" in my ear just in time for me to get back into the lane and make it to where I was staying. I was certainly alone in my car.

I've shared that story many times. I'm not only thankful that I'm alive, but that I didn't harm anyone else.

Sometimes we're allowed to survive our stupidity in order share what we learned with others.

In no way am I vouching for anything else that guy is saying (because I haven't watched it). I just saw the part in the beginning and recognized the similarity.

Does your guardian angel have a name?
 
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I was under the belief that the magog invasion is what kicks off the tribulation? Or rather, one of the main pinnacle events leading up to it. The Pslam 83 war seems to have already seen completion with the destruction of Damascucs. Though, I know not if Demascus has been destroyed in entirety?

But, what do you have to support the Magog invasion comes AFTER the millennial reign of Jesus Christ? It reads as though it happens before the S really HTF during Jacobs Troubles and tribulation.

Teach me, brother. Im curious. Cheers!
Rev 20 1-8 KJV

 
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