Firefight ongoing in Texas...


As of 6 pm the incident was still ongoing with the cartel gunmen pinned down on an island in the Rio grande. Still armed and they have either shot at or pointed weapons at ICE drones.

Where the hell is arty when you need it!!

Sirhr
One of the things I’ve always advocated for on the border is the generous use of CS when warranted.

I happen to like CS, but most people have major problems with it when it contacts their eyes, skin, nasal & oral mucosa.

I would also pump it into the tunnels.
 
I say let our military eat! Make an example out of the cartel(s) so that no one tries that shit again. No mercy.
Agreed but send in the mentally ill cross dressers that don't know what sex they are first to give them a false sense of hope then hit them with everything we have to were this isn't enough left for the vultures to eat.
 
My buddies and I have been advocating for a regular border rotation deployment schedule with free-fire, prosecute TGTs of opportunity for training, sport, and competition. We’re talking about aerial platforms layered, with small arms not left with much to shoot in the end. Mostly Reapers, AH-6s, and AH-64Es. There’s a lot of border to cover and plenty of kill boxes to fill. Any time-critical TGTs can be serviced by training squadrons going through B-School out of nearby USAF bases, as well as USMC Weapons School.

That’s all after we allocate State National Guard units and see what they can do first.
 
Make land mines along the border great again.
Yeah. Like the mud people do. And would raise hell if we did. And would have their dual citizenship politicians vote down

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Dual citizenship politicians should be tried and executed for treason
 
Brah you ever see any of them BP guys shoot? They can't hit the ground from a foot away. Usually the guys that carry guns for work suck at using them. I have a bunch customers that are custom agents, BP and lots of cops. They always want the dumbest shit. Taurus judges, those stupid fuckin other shotguns, they always ask about stupid SBR's and mp5 variants that are not even jersey legal. A bunch of dumb inaccurate guns.
Exactly.

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News was just making a bigger deal than it is.

There’s no bounties that anyone knows of, and it wasn’t much of a firefight (if you would even call it that). There were some shots fired. Unfortunately this is fairly normal for that area for many years and not a product of the new administration (yet).

The south side is pretty volatile there. And spills over occasionally. It’s a serious issue, but not what the news made it seem.

Over exaggerated coverage is better than no coverage.
 
One of the things I’ve always advocated for on the border is the generous use of CS when warranted.

I happen to like CS, but most people have major problems with it when it contacts their eyes, skin, nasal & oral mucosa.

I would also pump it into the tunnels.
Just don't run out to take a piss emmiediatly after your turn in the chamber or after handling it.
Trust me fire bad especially when it's on your junk 😬
 
Um, there's 4.

Look behind the lone tree.
Okay, shrub, but not a shrubbery.
Not another shrubbery!!!!
Need some artillery with some good Ole Willy Pete rounds. And some A-10's dropping napalm and BRRRRRRRT.
This brings to mind the beloved A10. Any reason Trump can't get a new A10 assembly line going again? We'll eventually run out of viable A10's if we don't.
 
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Not another shrubbery!!!!

This brings to mind the beloved A10. Any reason Trump can't get a new A10 assembly line going again? We'll eventually run out of viable A10's if we don't.

Give tha A10’s to the Marines. They perfected CAS… and arguably invented it.

Put them back in the budget. USAF never wanted them anyway.

While they are at it… USBP A-10 squadron would be epic!

Sirhr
 
Give tha A10’s to the Marines. They perfected CAS… and arguably invented it.

Put them back in the budget. USAF never wanted them anyway.

While they are at it… USBP A-10 squadron would be epic!

Sirhr

I'll say, from experience, seeing the difference in how maintenance is done, AF vs other services, leave them with the AF.
You will get and keep a much higher mission capable rate.
 
I'll say, from experience, seeing the difference in how maintenance is done, AF vs other services, leave them with the AF.
You will get and keep a much higher mission capable rate.

They are retired from USAF and headed for boneyard… the most capable platform for CAS since the Skyraider….

Mothballed and scrapped because USAF doesn’t want it or the mission. They want their fast livers and drones. Ground support doesn’t get you promoted to General….

Sirhr
 
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They are retired from USAF and headed for boneyard… the most capable platform for CAS since the Skyraider….

Mothballed and scrapped because USAF doesn’t want it or the mission. They want their fast livers and drones. Ground support doesn’t get you promoted to General….

Sirhr
The A-10 would have been perfect for Vietnam, as it was basically an armored Skyraider with better payload that could bust the ZSU-23-4 mobile radar-guided AAA platform. We still would have lost them to AAA and MANPADs, but they would have had better on-station time and munitions carriage depth to help out Troops In-Contact compared to A-1s and AH-1s.

By the time we started YA-10 test flights, it was already obsolete though. 1970s-era Soviet SAMs and Radar-guided AAA made the A-10 a death trap/strafe rag. It would have been better to put the money into SLEP’ing the F-111F and EF-111A. Getting PAVE Tac capability into the F-111D and throttling systems development and fielding of LANTIRN onto F-16C Block 40 and F-15E sooner, so they could go tank-plinking at night ahead of the FLOT and deeper into the interdiction kill boxes.

A-10A and OA-10A had to be grounded during ODS due to attrition and fatalities. Too slow, not very survivable. It was fine as long as it stayed close to the FLOT for the armored units, but got into deep doo doo when it tried to do armed recon and limited interdiction out further. Was a strafe rag for mobile SAMs and AAA in those spaces.

In the end, we wasted thousands upon thousands of seats that could have been better-allocated for TAC AIR platforms that actually have use in the Air Tasking Order, namely later blocks F-16C and F-15E.

They spent billions on SLEP’ing A-10Cs, which have no mission in the modern ATO.
 
They are retired from USAF and headed for boneyard… the most capable platform for CAS since the Skyraider….

Mothballed and scrapped because USAF doesn’t want it or the mission. They want their fast livers and drones. Ground support doesn’t get you promoted to General….

Sirhr

If they are mothballing them for a second time, then I say yeah, give them to whoever wants to continue use.
I also say make more. Make a lot more of them.

The US is most likely in need of new ones, since most, if not all A-10s are over 40yrs old. I put my hands on them first in June of 84 if that says anything...

They are a fantastic ground support aircraft.
One of my shooting buddies flew F-4s, F-16s and A-10s during his 36 year career.
He said nobody cared about the F-4 and F-16. When ground troops talked with him and found out he flew the A-10, they were unbelievably thankful for it.

They, or aircraft like them should always be an integral part of our arsenal, no matter who flys or turns wrenches on them.
 
Super Tacos would be better for USBP if they didn’t get the support they need from State Army and Air National Guard units.

Imagine using ANG and State units for border security.

The logistics footprint behind A-10s is only supportable at a minimum by Air National Guard.
 
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If they are mothballing them for a second time, then I say yeah, give them to whoever wants to continue use.
I also say make more. Make a lot more of them.

The US is most likely in need of new ones, since most, if not all A-10s are over 40yrs old. I put my hands on them first in June of 84 if that says anything...

They are a fantastic ground support aircraft.
One of my shooting buddies flew F-4s, F-16s and A-10s during his 36 year career.
He said nobody cared about the F-4 and F-16. When ground troops talked with him and found out he flew the A-10, they were unbelievably thankful for it.

They, or aircraft like them should always be an integral part of our arsenal, no matter who flys or turns wrenches on them.
F-4s and F-16s have contributed to the fight in ways the A-10 could never hope to do.

Dismounted Army soldiers are generally clueless about the overall force structure, and are nowhere near the top priority even within the Army when it comes to Large-Scale Combat Operations or Multi-Domain Operations.

The Army has been in transition to more of a ground-based long-range fires organization, networked with more advanced manned and unmanned armed aviations platforms, with reduced vulnerable armored vehicles numbers.

If you ever see what can be done with HIMARS and ATACMS networked with AH-64Es, APCs and IFVs look like a waste of time.

Light Infantry aren’t even in the discussion. Haven’t even been deployed in that conversation.
 
The A-10 would have been perfect for Vietnam, as it was basically an armored Skyraider with better payload that could bust the ZSU-23-4 mobile radar-guided AAA platform. We still would have lost them to AAA and MANPADs, but they would have had better on-station time and munitions carriage depth to help out Troops In-Contact compared to A-1s and AH-1s.

By the time we started YA-10 test flights, it was already obsolete though. 1970s-era Soviet SAMs and Radar-guided AAA made the A-10 a death trap/strafe rag. It would have been better to put the money into SLEP’ing the F-111F and EF-111A. Getting PAVE Tac capability into the F-111D and throttling systems development and fielding of LANTIRN onto F-16C Block 40 and F-15E sooner, so they could go tank-plinking at night ahead of the FLOT and deeper into the interdiction kill boxes.

A-10A and OA-10A had to be grounded during ODS due to attrition and fatalities. Too slow, not very survivable. It was fine as long as it stayed close to the FLOT for the armored units, but got into deep doo doo when it tried to do armed recon and limited interdiction out further. Was a strafe rag for mobile SAMs and AAA in those spaces.

In the end, we wasted thousands upon thousands of seats that could have been better-allocated for TAC AIR platforms that actually have use in the Air Tasking Order, namely later blocks F-16C and F-15E.

They spent billions on SLEP’ing A-10Cs, which have no mission in the modern ATO.

True… ETO would have been bad for A10’in a full on Fulda Gap type war….

But through foresight or luck, it was a great platform for the LIC of the past several decades. And even in DS… it was a great platform… away from advanced AA?.

But can say the same thing about Ac130… or Apache… how long can they survive in a tier one AA environment?

The GS missions real and needed. Something needs to replace it. Other than drones..

Until drones get a lot more advanced. Which they will.

Sirhr
 
The F-111F killed more tanks in Desert Storm than the A-10 did, and the F-111F did it in about 1/4 of the sorties A-10’s flew.

If you talk to A-10 pilots who were stationed in England, who would rotate down to remote bases on the Western border of Germany and France, they all knew their mission set was suicidal. Best case was to get off some AGM-65s and bombs, get shot down, get recovered by SF or AFSOC doing CSAR, get evacuated back to the airfields. If uninjured, strap into another A-10 and repeat.

It was a waste of our resources. A-7D would have executed the Fulda Gap profile 10x better.

The false premise a lot of people have is that doing emergency CAS for Troops-in-Contact, the aerial platform needs to be piloted and slow enough to where the pilot can visually acquire the TIC and threat, employ weapons, maintain visual acquisition for re-attack.

That isn’t even a premise for the A-10C anymore, since it is equipped with FLIR pod, LGBs, SDBs, and PGMs dropped from higher altitude.

The USAF was right for wanting to get rid of the A-10 in the 1980s well before ODS. ODS and post-ODS propaganda breathed new air into the A-10 service life, even though its performance limitations and weaknesses were concealed from the public and Congress.
 
I love that plane. When I was a kid, "Flight of the Intruder" was my favorite movie (by a long shot).
They used to fly over the farm I grew up on all the time, as well as F-14s. I kinda miss both of them. I'm still in the general area, but these days it's mostly 15s, 18s, and V-22s.