Plane crash At Reagan National

Shoreglide · 2025-01-29T21:48:00-0500

Just a little while ago…

BREAKING: Aircraft crash reported near National Airport | ARLnow.com

A large emergency response has been dispatched to Reagan National Airport for reports of an aircraft crash. Fire boats and helicopters are being used to search for victims in the Potomac River. The incident has been deemed a mass casualty incident. Multiple deaths have been reported. Initial...

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Shoreglide · 2025-01-29T21:49:08-0500

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Srgt. Hulka · 2025-01-29T21:56:26-0500

Damn…..

neeltburn · 2025-01-29T21:57:51-0500

Fox News just announced a Blackhawk and CRJ collided midair. Reports are up to 60 victims. All water rescue boats dispatched to area of Regan International area of Potomac.

neeltburn · 2025-01-29T21:59:48-0500

American Airlines Flight 5342 per FAA

gigamortis · 2025-01-29T22:16:46-0500

I'm sure DEI played a part in this somewhere.

kl3309 · 2025-01-29T22:17:07-0500

mrtoyz · 2025-01-29T22:28:19-0500

Is it bad that my first thought was an attack on Trump staffers etc?

Marinevet1 · 2025-01-29T22:35:33-0500

Local news reporting out of Kansas City:

“We’re aware of reports that American Eagle flight 5342, operated by PSA, with service from Wichita, Kansas (ICT) to Washington Reagan National Aiport (DCA) has been involved in an incident,” American Airlines tweeted. “We will provide information as it becomes available.”

mrtoyz · 2025-01-29T22:37:39-0500

PSA CRJ700 hit a Blackhawk used for vip transport. 60 on board plus crew on the crj, everyone died

_Windrider_ · 2025-01-29T22:40:04-0500

mrtoyz said:
PSA CRJ700 hit a Blackhawk used for vip transport. 60 on board plus crew on the crj, everyone died

Or did the hawk hit the CRJ. Let’s let this play out overnight and focus on finding survivors.

Someone fucked up for sure.

This video sure looks like the help hit it

rjacobs · 2025-01-29T22:40:18-0500

mrtoyz said:
PSA CRJ700 hit a Blackhawk used for vip transport.

flip that around and thats probably what happened.

The airlines are SUPER SUPER controlled going in and out of DCA. The fucking helicopters are a nightmare there.

ATC feed seems to show the blackhawk was told to fly behind the CRJ...

Helo's in the area are on a separate frequency from the rest of the DCA traffic... there is a helo corridor on the east side of the river.

Shoreglide · 2025-01-29T22:40:50-0500

Damn. Blackhawk driver was instructed by ATC to maintain visual with that CRJ.

Shoreglide · 2025-01-29T23:04:33-0500

Blackhawk transponder was off as well…

jetjock07 · 2025-01-29T23:18:20-0500

Not to mention the airspace there is tight with all the flight restricted areas, then you add in the helos there with all the light pollution at night and it makes seeing them difficult.

jetjock07 · 2025-01-29T23:28:17-0500

Shoreglide said:
Blackhawk transponder was off as well…

You know this how??

notacos4u · 2025-01-29T23:42:28-0500

Shoreglide said:
Blackhawk transponder was off as well…

Fox reported that tower lost the transponder signal of the Blackhawk and then immediately closed the airspace. So it seems “maybe” the transponder was off, due to the crash, but might be miss information too. Still too early.

_Windrider_ · 2025-01-29T23:43:17-0500

Shoreglide said:
Blackhawk transponder was off as well…

I would be shocked if it was. That airspace is highly controlled. You best have a code if you are in that airspace.

_Windrider_ · 2025-01-29T23:53:00-0500

Holliday said:

That’s di

Holliday said:

ads b is different than mode c. If the ads b was off that’s a shame because that likely prevented the CRj from getting a TCAS RA and possibly maneuvering to avoid.

They better have a good reason for turning that off.

akmike47 · 2025-01-30T00:06:56-0500

Well

Holliday said:

they fucking failed that training, morons

st1650 · 2025-01-30T00:41:30-0500

_Windrider_ said:
That’s di

ads b is different than mode c. If the ads b was off that’s a shame because that likely prevented the CRj from getting a TCAS RA and possibly maneuvering to avoid.

They better have a good reason for turning that off.

There’s no TCAS RA below 1200’. The CRJ would have gotten a TA (advisory only).

st1650 · 2025-01-30T00:42:44-0500

Anyone who’s been flying airlines in the last 2-3 years knew this was coming. There’s been so many close calls, it was only a question of time.

notacos4u · 2025-01-30T00:46:40-0500

Holliday said:

Listening to that audio, there was 20 seconds from when tower asked pat25 if they had visual, to when somebody in the background it appears to say OMG…. then it sounds like radio silence until another aircraft ask tower if they saw the crash

Edit: they just said the helicopter was transmitting on a different frequency.

st1650 · 2025-01-30T00:48:56-0500

mrtoyz said:
Is it bad that my first thought was an attack on Trump staffers etc?

How many Trump staffers are flying in from Whichita on a fucking American Eagle CRJ ?

anon · 2025-01-30T00:57:41-0500

Some of the ground tracks are from a source where replay is available. Looking at that, PAT25 source was mlat, not ads. It did however show their squawk.

They were low enough that RAs would have been inhibited, and most likely any audio TA too.

Also, a clear night is far worse than one with restrictions to visibility for discerning moving targets with little to no relative motion.

The threat was right of center, and they were circling left.

st1650 · 2025-01-30T01:04:22-0500

Radar track is out

https://files.catbox.moe/7vjqub.mp4

200’ separation on converging traffic with the RJ on short final. Absolutely retarded. Tower should have called for a go-around as soon as the RJ hit 500’

Heads are going to roll for this. Major fuckup from the Blackhawk crew and the ATC

notacos4u · 2025-01-30T01:07:25-0500

st1650 · 2025-01-30T01:11:06-0500

notacos4u said:

Ugh. So many retards. The CRJ wasn’t mysteriously drifting into the helo. It’s the normal approach for the visual in DCA for RW33

UKDslayer · 2025-01-30T01:31:09-0500

mrtoyz said:
Is it bad that my first thought was an attack on Trump staffers etc?

Or are there any HVPs on either the Black Hawk or AA flights? Any survivors? Doesn't look good. As of now 18 bodies recovered and no apparent survivors visible. What is it called an aircraft Internet in boats resources afternoon

Reminded of the Florida Air flight 90 that crashed in the fridgid Potomac killing 78 on board in 1982.

Prayers with the families, regrdless of party affiliation.
The momentum so far in the past week seem palpable in a good way; this will certainly be a mood damper but also a time to appreciate everyone that commutes to DC; and we often see the better sespects of humanity comng through.

There was also an F 35 crash at Eielson Airport today (Alaska), but fortunately the pilot ejected and it's being monitored for non-life-threatening injuries.

anon · 2025-01-30T01:56:38-0500

Looking at the Baltimore-Washington Helicopter chart, the top of Route 1 and Route 4 where the helo was flying is 200'.

I'm going to resist going looking for the KDCA Obstruction Chart which should also show the obstruction clearance plane for 33. But, I won't be surprised if that Helicopter Route penetrates it.

We're supposed to identify and mitigate threats. Crossing under an active approach needs to be better handled.

_Windrider_ · 2025-01-30T06:23:47-0500

st1650 said:
There’s no TCAS RA below 1200’. The CRJ would have gotten a TA (advisory only).

You know what i meant. Almost edited it but figured it could wait till morning.

_Windrider_ · 2025-01-30T06:32:38-0500

st1650 said:
Ugh. So many retards. The CRJ wasn’t mysteriously drifting into the helo. It’s the normal approach for the visual in DCA for RW33

Indeed. Was based in dca for two years. Did it all the time.

Couple personal policies I’ve developed over the years not that any of these would have stoped this. Never call traffic in sight at night near cities and relieve ATC of their separation control. It’s too easy to lose sight in the lights.

IMO that help should have been told to hold north of the runway until the CRJ was in the ground. This was so avoidable. DCA runs like clockwork it’s a busy airport but they move move aircraft like pros.

My initial thoughts this morning is how did the circle to land clearance coincide with the h60 being told to maintain visual separation. Did the h60 think that they were still landing on 1? Doesn’t relieve them but some questions need to be answered.

Can’t wait to see what dumb changes come out of this.

wvfarrier · 2025-01-30T06:50:16-0500

Lord GOD what a mess. Breibart says the plane had a bunch of Russian figure skaters on it. Thatll help Negotiations with Putin

packratt · 2025-01-30T06:57:45-0500

Fox says Us skating team

_Windrider_ · 2025-01-30T07:11:12-0500

wvfarrier said:
Lord GOD what a mess. Breibart says the plane had a bunch of Russian figure skaters on it. Thatll help Negotiations with Putin

how many civilian planes has russia shot down now? he can suck a dick. and second wtf were they doing in the US anyway.

sirhrmechanic · 2025-01-30T07:14:07-0500

Both US and Russian skaters…. Coaches and staff.

American figure skating members, Russian Olympians aboard plane in Reagan National Airport crash

U.S. Figure Skating said athletes, coaches and family members were among those involved in an airline disaster on Wednesday night. The Kremlin said Russian stars died as well.

www.foxnews.com

Sirhr

sirhrmechanic · 2025-01-30T07:14:46-0500

_Windrider_ said:
how many civilian planes has russia shot down now? he can suck a dick. and second wtf were they doing in the US anyway.

Russians were 1994 Olympians… probably coaching.

Sirhr

db2000 · 2025-01-30T07:17:10-0500

Wonder if the helo was flying w/ nvg? If you can drive into a pond training I guess you can run into a jet.

Tempest 455 · 2025-01-30T07:17:16-0500

GreenGO Juan · 2025-01-30T07:18:54-0500

notacos4u said:

ah yes RT news reporting on a US plane crash, its gotta be right, from the guys that call a surface to air missile taking out an airliner a bird strike.

sirhrmechanic · 2025-01-30T07:38:43-0500

Maybe it was Tonya Harding…

BurtG · 2025-01-30T07:39:47-0500

Il call it.

It’s Didn’t Earn It’s Destroying Everything Intentionally. Again.

Well not intentionally their just dumb.

But yeah a dei in one or more of the tower , the plane , the Helicoptor , or leadership of the aforementioned

Cowpokey · 2025-01-30T09:18:24-0500

BurtG said:
Il call it.

It’s Didn’t Earn It’s Destroying Everything Intentionally. Again.

Well not intentionally their just dumb.

But yeah a dei in one or more of the tower , the plane , the Helicoptor , or leadership of the aforementioned

I’d still like to blame someone on the ground…like a baggage handler or gate check attendant.

mrtoyz · 2025-01-30T10:03:56-0500

st1650 said:
How many Trump staffers are flying in from Whichita on a fucking American Eagle CRJ ?

I said first thought. Meaning without any further details.

232593 · 2025-01-30T10:28:56-0500

wvfarrier said:
Lord GOD what a mess. Breibart says the plane had a bunch of Russian figure skaters on it. Thatll help Negotiations with Putin

I heard that from other sources.

Interesting

BytorJr · 2025-01-30T10:52:23-0500

Black Hawk chopper unit was on annual proficiency training flight, Hegseth says

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth calls the deadly aircraft collision involving a Black Hawk and a civilian airliner "a tragedy" in a statement obtained exclusively by Fox News.

www.foxnews.com

Why would this exam be performed so close to DCA? Was this a proficiency exam on navigating in the DC Airspace. Was this somebody "learning" or "annual". MEGA fuck up on US Army from what it appears. Admittedly I do not know what's involved in a UH-60 proficiency training flight; but one would naturally think it wouldn't be that close to a HUB in an already congested airspace.

What will be interesting is who was being tested, who was in charge of testing in the aircraft, and who authorized that route.

akmike47 · 2025-01-30T11:10:40-0500

Holliday said:

What’s this retard think a plane crash looks like?

st1650 · 2025-01-30T11:14:05-0500

BurtG said:
Il call it.

It’s Didn’t Earn It’s Destroying Everything Intentionally. Again.

Well not intentionally their just dumb.

But yeah a dei in one or more of the tower , the plane , the Helicoptor , or leadership of the aforementioned

I’m not so sure it’s a case of globohomo or DIE …
This wasn’t an initial training flight, it was a recurrent night check of an experienced crew.
DCA ATC is also fairly senior and experienced
The RJ crew did everything right, perfectly flown the ILS RW01 visual circling to 33 and they were on path laterally and vertically and there’s no way they would have seen that Blackhawk on the right side.

There’s been a lot of close calls both on the pilot side and on the ATC side in the last 2-3 years it was bound to happen.

Complex systems won’t survive the competence crisis

It’s going to get worse before it gets better.

Holliday · 2025-01-30T11:20:48-0500

akmike47 said:
What’s this retard think a plane crash looks like?

Probably looking at your face would have sufficed, dickhead.

Fx51LP308 · 2025-01-30T11:25:17-0500

232593 said:
I heard that from other sources.

Interesting

They had a statement from the Russian govt. on Newsmax this morning. I didn't detect any "blame game" stuff going on. In fact, the official said something to the effect of, "There is no need for direct diplomatic contact at this point."

I just hope the new Trump admin. handles this right with all necessary transparency. I don't want to yell, "Conspiracy Theory" just yet. But, from what I can tell, the American flight was on the correct approach into DCA under VFR, and it was the Blackhawk that hit the CRJ. One would think the blackhawk pilots were trained well enough to avoid it. And I believe I'd heard that the tower tried to get the Blackhawk to confirm that it had the CRJ "in sight." Yet, the collision happened anyway. Why?

This is the reason why athletic teams never (or should never) travel altogether on the same plane./train/bus, etc..

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