2025 Nightforce elr steel challenge & Krg extreme

NF ELR Virgin here.
-What is the primary shooting direction or is there multiple depending on stage layout? As in shooting towards the north, south, west, east etc? (Trying to not run a sunshade)
 
Me too. What caliber you bringing
30 Sherman Mag (PRC improved)
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NF ELR Virgin here.
-What is the primary shooting direction or is there multiple depending on stage layout? As in shooting towards the north, south, west, east etc? (Trying to not run a sunshade)
It's a fairly broad direction of fire. If my memory is right none of the shooting is north, very little to the east and tons to the south and west ish.

EDIT: I think there is one or 2 stage that shoot north.
 
I'm really debating throwing a 7mm barrel in the mix this year for one of the matches. I have used 30 cal both years at nightforce. Anyone running 7s feel like your under gunned at all?
I have two friends who've shot the NF ELR, one shoots a 7 SAUM with 180s around 2800ish, the other was doing a 300 Norma with 245s at ~2900. Guy with the SAUM felt a disadvantage of over an MRAD difference at a mile:

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Data source: Hornady 4DoF

I might not go 7mm if you're trying to win or get high on the walk-the-prize-table list. My friend who ran the 245s in the Norma is switching to a 7-300 Norma this year for the Light division.
 
I have two friends who've shot the NF ELR, one shoots a 7 SAUM with 180s around 2800ish, the other was doing a 300 Norma with 245s at ~2900. Guy with the SAUM felt a disadvantage of over an MRAD difference at a mile:


Data source: Hornady 4DoF

I might not go 7mm if you're trying to win or get high on the walk-the-prize-table list. My friend who ran the 245s in the Norma is switching to a 7-300 Norma this year for the Light division.
YA at SAUM velocity you are sacrificing a fair bit more. get them going as fast as possible.
7-300 PRC or 7-300 NM would work well.
 
One of my friends was pretty ticked off this last year over the prize table. He's used to PRS and NRL22 X-match prize tables. I think he just had an overall bad experience last year though. Targets going down on day one put him on the range and shooting stages for 14+ hours. Top it with an unexpected table-walk order, and he was considering not doing the match anymore.

I personally would like to see fewer prize tables walked based on score alone anyways. Overall score means light/tactical/gas gun/other classes get abandoned. I was kind of glad to hear the NF challenge went a different direction in 2024.
 
One of my friends was pretty ticked off this last year over the prize table. He's used to PRS and NRL22 X-match prize tables. I think he just had an overall bad experience last year though. Targets going down on day one put him on the range and shooting stages for 14+ hours. Top it with an unexpected table-walk order, and he was considering not doing the match anymore.

I personally would like to see fewer prize tables walked based on score alone anyways. Overall score means light/tactical/gas gun/other classes get abandoned. I was kind of glad to hear the NF challenge went a different direction in 2024.
It wasn't really intentional. They had a glitch with the scoring system which corrupted some of the files so they just rolled with the info they had. I think the order alternating between class' was just a decision they made heat of the moment and wasn't really intentional.

I still like random draw after the podium walks
 
I'm all for whatever well defined and sensible prize table walk a MD wants to come up with. I'd also be fine with no prize tables, wouldn't affect me pretty much ever lol.

Also there are plenty of threads and FB posts about the absolute shit show it was last year. I don't mean to derail another thread, just hope that they can get it put on in a competent manner.
 
I mean, it's one of the most well known matches. Accommodating 300 shooters and keeping them happy sounds like hell. If I were them, I'd split it into two matches. But at the end of the day, it's not a lot of work to whine, and it's a crap ton of work to run a match.

Back on topic - when does registration go live? I've never done the match, but this year I'm sorely tempted to enter the light division.
 
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I'm all for whatever well defined and sensible prize table walk a MD wants to come up with. I'd also be fine with no prize tables, wouldn't affect me pretty much ever lol.

Also there are plenty of threads and FB posts about the absolute shit show it was last year. I don't mean to derail another thread, just hope that they can get it put on in a competent manner.
People were pissed about the prize table for sure, there was a guy swearing because his name got called out of order at 10th place. but they were just used to the old way. If you came for the prizes you shouldn't have attended.

A couple target failures caused some major jam ups on certain stages but shit happens.

@rothgyr that's right people bitch over nothing and don't realize the work that goes in.

last few years squadding opened one month prior to the match.
 
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I mean, it's one of the most well known matches. Accommodating 300 shooters and keeping them happy sounds like hell. If I were them, I'd split it into two matches. But at the end of the day, it's not a lot of work to whine, and it's a crap ton of work to run a match.

Back on topic - when does registration go live? I've never done the match, but this year I'm sorely tempted to enter the light division.
Registration already happened
 
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I have two friends who've shot the NF ELR, one shoots a 7 SAUM with 180s around 2800ish, the other was doing a 300 Norma with 245s at ~2900. Guy with the SAUM felt a disadvantage of over an MRAD difference at a mile:

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Data source: Hornady 4DoF

I might not go 7mm if you're trying to win or get high on the walk-the-prize-table list. My friend who ran the 245s in the Norma is switching to a 7-300 Norma this year for the Light division.
My post has really nothing to do with the matches but I was out in the Casper/Glenrock area last June and had brought my 300NM 35*IMP long. We set up a steel USPSA target at 1800 yards one afternoon. My Berger factory 300NM ammo with the 215 Hybrid was on the money at 16.4mrad while the 300NM 35*IMP load with the 215 Hybrid was (best I remember ) 14.4mrad.
I had saved a chart from Berger's website before leaving AL to reference and the numbers were surprising close.
The biggest surprise to me was how well the 215 Hybrid did even with the normally breezy Wyoming day.