Ukraine war Bullshit.

Have a look at the map. I think that is Putin’s desired end state.

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I don’t think he could achieve the desired end state in the South. All that DUT requires ALOT of resources.
 
Have a look at the map. I think that is Putin’s desired end state.

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I don’t think he could achieve the desired end state in the South. All that DUT requires ALOT of resources.
i don't believe putin will get that much. of course i have no way of knowing, but i would be shocked.
it wouldn't shock me if that was a starting point for the russian side.

i think the luhansk and donetsk oblasts (that had voted for independence in the first place back in 2014), and some of the south to keep a land connection to the mariupol and crimea might satisfy the russians.
they may have to promise a percentage of oil and gas revenues back to the ukraine side.