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Ukraine war Bullshit.

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Have a look at the map. I think that is Putin’s desired end state.

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I don’t think he could achieve the desired end state in the South. All that DUT requires ALOT of resources.
 
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232593 said:
Have a look at the map. I think that is Putin’s desired end state.

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I don’t think he could achieve the desired end state in the South. All that DUT requires ALOT of resources.
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i don't believe putin will get that much. of course i have no way of knowing, but i would be shocked.
it wouldn't shock me if that was a starting point for the russian side.

i think the luhansk and donetsk oblasts (that had voted for independence in the first place back in 2014), and some of the south to keep a land connection to the mariupol and crimea might satisfy the russians.
they may have to promise a percentage of oil and gas revenues back to the ukraine side.
 
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I've learned not to listen to any of these so called analysts. This war has very little to do with the U.S. vs. Russia. It's been a proxy war waged against Europe by the U.S. to make them completely dependent on U.S. energy, weapons, economic hand outs and food in a world where American hegemony and influence has become neutered. Cutting off Europe from the east also prevents their chances for autonomy. Biden put out the rug for them to step onto and Trump yanked it out from under them.

Russia and the U.S. aren't even enemies in this war. To understand that you need to look at the actual outcome. Russia's economy is better then ever, their ties with China are very strong, and the future BRICS is brighter then anything else.

So the question becomes why would the U.S. be inclined to do this? Very simple answer - it's not a state of the people, it is subservient to a class of elites who are a-national (they don't pledge allegiance to any nation). The can be referrer to as the owners and controllers of global financialized capital (the OCGFC). Trump serves their interests, the little people are just a means for wealth extraction to the rentier class. U.S. influence is limited and needs the EU beneath them, as the U.S. economy gets wound down.

The U.S. is no longer industrialized, because the elites have long since found cheaper means of production abroad. They don't want the U.S. strengthening nationalistic policies like that of Russia, Saudi Arabia / GCC, and China to a degree, because the U.S. is too destructive. The flow of American capital supersedes the state and has no incentives to "MAGA". It's all multinational.

The 'kraine conflict probably won't end soon. It'll just continue being perpetrated until Europe becomes a conflict zone. The Russian people believe that their war won't end until they plant their victory flag over Reichstag in Berlin. The MIC can sell weapons to a brainwashed EU who will continue poking that bear on command.
 
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How it all started
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It seems its an Ukrainan scam to milk US for aid that kinda backfired


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UKDslayer said:
www.thegatewaypundit.com

Zelensky Says $350 Billion in Frozen Russian Assets are "Our Money, Not Ours with Our Partners" - Says $100 Billion Given by Biden to Ukraine Was a "Grant and Not a Loan" | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Ukrainian President Zelensky asserts that the $350 billion in frozen Russian assets rightfully belongs to Ukraine and insists that U.S. aid was a grant, not a debt. His remarks raise significant implications for international relations.
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I think we need to send a few billion more in strategic ordinance delivered at our discretion to the little shit. 😡
 
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Problem with those frozen assets Zelensky dreams of .
First are problematic for future debt financing by EU . The elephant in the room rarely mentioned there are a bunch of Western assets in Russia --> Foreign assets worth around $194 billion are still in Russia. Of these assets, $32 billion worth are owned by U.S. companies.




couple months ago
 
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UKDslayer said:
www.thegatewaypundit.com

Zelensky Says $350 Billion in Frozen Russian Assets are "Our Money, Not Ours with Our Partners" - Says $100 Billion Given by Biden to Ukraine Was a "Grant and Not a Loan" | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Ukrainian President Zelensky asserts that the $350 billion in frozen Russian assets rightfully belongs to Ukraine and insists that U.S. aid was a grant, not a debt. His remarks raise significant implications for international relations.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com
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Zelensky sounds just like a stripper. “No, you said it was a gift not a loan!”
 
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Mr.BR said:
Problem with those frozen assets Zelensky dreams of .
First are problematic for future debt financing by EU . The elephant in the room rarely mentioned there are a bunch of Western assets in Russia --> Foreign assets worth around $194 billion are still in Russia. Of these assets, $32 billion worth are owned by U.S. companies.

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Anyone want to start a death pool and see who goes first, the Pope or Zelensky? 😡
 
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Makinchips208 said:
It makes sense, trump can let putin have ukraine.
China gets taiwan.

And US gets canada as the 51st state, and we get panama canal back for $1.
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I'm not sure if that's what I get from that meme.

Essentially when the USA sold out Taiwan so we could move all our industry to China, "somebody" promised the Chinese that "we" wouldn't support Taiwan being it's own country.

What I get is that the meme is saying Trump told Taiwan that hey if you want to basically make facts on the ground for the past few generations permanent and give up your idea of one day taking China back over, and just want to say hey we are the country of Taiwan, then all is great with us and we'll recognize you and support you.

Which of course would then make the Chinese really mad.

Because if Taiwan officially becomes it's own country and the USA recognizes it as it's own country and in typical USA fashion, "pressures" other countries to do the same, then essentially the CCP gets a huge black eye and their domestic propaganda falls down flat.
It would be a huge personal blow to Pooh Bear and basically show them up as impotent.

Plus now that Taiwan is a country and such, then the USA and others can have like defense pacts openly and bases openly there and maybe even openly stage some nuclear missiles there and such, and now the Chinese know the ability for them to just run over and grab it is pretty much gone.
 
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W54/XM-388 said:
I'm not sure if that's what I get from that meme.

Essentially when the USA sold out Taiwan so we could move all our industry to China, "somebody" promised the Chinese that "we" wouldn't support Taiwan being it's own country.

What I get is that the meme is saying Trump told Taiwan that hey if you want to basically make facts on the ground for the past few generations permanent and give up your idea of one day taking China back over, and just want to say hey we are the country of Taiwan, then all is great with us and we'll recognize you and support you.

Which of course would then make the Chinese really mad.

Because if Taiwan officially becomes it's own country and the USA recognizes it as it's own country and in typical USA fashion, "pressures" other countries to do the same, then essentially the CCP gets a huge black eye and their domestic propaganda falls down flat.
It would be a huge personal blow to Pooh Bear and basically show them up as impotent.

Plus now that Taiwan is a country and such, then the USA and others can have like defense pacts openly and bases openly there and maybe even openly stage some nuclear missiles there and such, and now the Chinese know the ability for them to just run over and grab it is pretty much gone.
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Nothing as fancy or elaborate as that.

Perhaps the newer image lends more clarity.

Just wanted to point out that we LIE all the time.

We have a pretty established track record.

We may agree to resolutions on paper, and do the exact opposite thing in reality.

From an utterly superficial, simpleton’s perspective - unless Trump actually “enacts his will” and totally “drains the swamp” (I am extremely dubious of the “Frodo and his band of adventurers will defeat Sauron and vanquish all evil in the land” trope, but hey - we Americans love our hero fantasies and the complexes attached to it) - there’s really no stopping us from continuously arming whatever part of Eastern Europe according to our old Foreign Policy playbook…

…which we’ve never really wavered from for the good part of the last century.

Same goes for whatever we may end up saying and doing re: Asia.

For all we know, all of these great, sweeping accomplishments for peace on TeeVee are just populist theater for us, the stupid and eternally gullible masses.

I have serious doubts about our great white hat heroes saving the world from the evil swamp doing its usual evil swamp things, if that makes any sense.
 
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Edsel said:
Nothing as fancy or elaborate as that.

Perhaps the newer image lends more clarity.

Just wanted to point out that we LIE all the time.

We have a pretty established track record.

We may agree to resolutions on paper, and do the exact opposite thing in reality.

From an utterly superficial, simpleton’s perspective - unless Trump actually “enacts his will” and totally “drains the swamp” (I am extremely dubious of the “Frodo and his band of adventurers will defeat Sauron and vanquish all evil in the land” trope, but hey - we Americans love our hero fantasies and the complexes attached to it) - there’s really no stopping us from continuously arming whatever part of Eastern Europe according to our old Foreign Policy playbook…

…which we’ve never really wavered from for the good part of the last century.

Same goes for whatever we may end up saying and doing re: Asia.

For all we know, all of these great, sweeping accomplishments for peace on TeeVee are just populist theater for us, the stupid and eternally gullible masses.

I have serious doubts about our great white hat heroes saving the world from the evil swamp doing its usual evil swamp things, if that makes any sense.
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I am basing what I say here…

Regardless of who comprises the “government,” U.S. Foreign Policy is very clear.

In a simplistic sense,

1. The U.S.A. must remain the sole hegemon - the dominant power (matter of fact) to preserve the “International Order” and “Our Way of Life (rhetoric).”

2. Any state that is too large, technologically progressing, or getting too prosperous is a threat and must either

a) fall in lockstep with the “Rules Based International Order (rules for thee, not for me)” of the “Western Liberal Democratic System,” otherwise be
b) rendered a nonfunctional state or Balkanized into bite - sized servings through

i) Economic (sanctions, weaponization of the dollar) or
ii) Military Interventions (destabilization through “Color Revolutions” included).

This is where a huge chunk of where our tax dollars go.

Everything else about Nationalism, Manifest Destiny (insert Madeleine Albright’s quotes here if so desired), the Monroe Doctrine, Lindsey Graham’s Vitamins and Rare Earth Minerals, Taiwanese Chips, Chinese Tactical Garlic and Killer Drones or other incidentals yada yada yada are just that - incidentals.

The U.S. must remain supreme and assert “Full Spectrum Dominance” to preserve our (excessive) standard of living, which derives from exploitation of developing countries.

Collateral Damage comes after the fact - someone else pays the price for our prosperity on the other end - as our decision - making revolves around zero - sum axioms.

For us to gain, for us to prosper - someone has to lose.

That is what we choose to believe, and our actions are consistent with such.

So in a way, they were correct in saying that “they (the rest of the world) hate us for our freedom.”
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…on the contents of an older post.
 
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#681
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All hail Ron Paul!

And, on the flipside…

Major “blowback” still exists as a very real possibility.

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While we gleefully snicker and think posts such as these are cute, the next one may just be Eastern European, maybe in a matrioshka doll severing your daughter’s hands. They’ve certainly accrued enough deaths under our guidance - remember, “…best money we ever spent.”

Romney’s remark… Like, damn. That’s not something anybody on the short end of the stick would ever forget, and there’s more than enough hate to get the job done.

Though the most likely culprits would likely still be people sympathetic to Palestine, why rule out Ukrainians? I vaguely remember seeing a video of a Ukrainian mother who decided to kaboom! some Ukrainian soldiers after she lost her son at the front lines.

There’s no shortage of them, and the list keeps growing.

These are interesting times…
 
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Fear not, former Navy S.E.A.L. supersoldierultrawarrior Dan Crenshaw indicates that from his highly classified military briefings, top secret information, and extensive warrier experience - Ukraine's present downhill trajectory isn't what it seems.
 
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Look at that cute “reset” button!

Look at the screen’s aspect ratio!

More strikingly, look at Lavrov’s aspect ratio!

I used to look like that, but with better hair!

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Bumped into some videos from Brian Berletic’s channel…

I think the above video’s a nice, relatively brief but heavily packed refresher on present U.S. Foreign Policy.

After going through some of his recent content, the guy seems to share a similar sentiment as myself, and we read the same stuff.

1. Our Foreign Policy Playbook has remained, and will always be the same
2. The shutdown of USAID is a noisy distraction, the framework’s still there
3. The present administration’s “pursuit of peace” is a actually farce
4. We’ve lied and reneged before, with regularity as cyclical as a menstrual cycle
5. We’re still on track, pursuing one more conflict after another
6. Our mindset still advocates conflict in pursuit of our “National Interests”
7. Nothing’s really changed
8. Nothing’s really changed
9. Nothing’s really changed
 
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www.twz.com

B-52 Flies Close To Border Of Russia And Belarus

On the third anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, a B-52 conducted a notable show of force in the Baltic region. On the third anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, a B-52 conducted a notable show of force in the Baltic region.
www.twz.com www.twz.com

www.twz.com

France Eyeing Deployment Of Nuclear-Armed Rafale Fighters To Germany: Report

Amid concerns over U.S. commitment to European security, France is mulling the extension of its nuclear umbrella farther across Europe. The latest proposal reportedly involves the deployment of nuclear-armed French fighter jets in Germany.
www.twz.com www.twz.com
 
#687
A small music break from all the "latest news" - "Farewell of slavianka", the most popular military march in the world. This video is from Sweden, they perform it exactly right, like Russians, but with a little more of "swedish music discipline":



For comparison, this is the "pure" Russian" version. BTW, guys in black uniform with T-shirts with black and white stripes, are naval infanry (aka marines), which is the best trained troops with strongest "killer instincts". Guys in blue and white strips T-shirts are paratroopers. Guys in the same T-shirts but in green helmets with glasses are from Speztnaz GRU. These strips mean all of them can be deployed from airplanes using parachutes.

 
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232593 said:
www.twz.com

B-52 Flies Close To Border Of Russia And Belarus

On the third anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, a B-52 conducted a notable show of force in the Baltic region. On the third anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, a B-52 conducted a notable show of force in the Baltic region.
www.twz.com www.twz.com

www.twz.com

France Eyeing Deployment Of Nuclear-Armed Rafale Fighters To Germany: Report

Amid concerns over U.S. commitment to European security, France is mulling the extension of its nuclear umbrella farther across Europe. The latest proposal reportedly involves the deployment of nuclear-armed French fighter jets in Germany.
www.twz.com www.twz.com
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Macron is so sleazy.
 
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French and Germans and English dancing with Russians? Been there done that got fucked but i guess types a’la Macron and Boris the Buldog and Olaf “the porch pirate” Schultz want seconds. If anything these types prove that there is rampant mental illness in the west (like lying you fuck your teacher while it being a man) and that population of the EU deserves what it gets. What in the world is wrong with these fucks they cant even make their ships float and go in wanted direction now they would field nukes. What happens when they will lose some ask Trump for help or what?
 
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W54/XM-388 said:
I'm not sure if that's what I get from that meme.

Essentially when the USA sold out Taiwan so we could move all our industry to China, "somebody" promised the Chinese that "we" wouldn't support Taiwan being it's own country.

What I get is that the meme is saying Trump told Taiwan that hey if you want to basically make facts on the ground for the past few generations permanent and give up your idea of one day taking China back over, and just want to say hey we are the country of Taiwan, then all is great with us and we'll recognize you and support you.

Which of course would then make the Chinese really mad.

Because if Taiwan officially becomes it's own country and the USA recognizes it as it's own country and in typical USA fashion, "pressures" other countries to do the same, then essentially the CCP gets a huge black eye and their domestic propaganda falls down flat.
It would be a huge personal blow to Pooh Bear and basically show them up as impotent.

Plus now that Taiwan is a country and such, then the USA and others can have like defense pacts openly and bases openly there and maybe even openly stage some nuclear missiles there and such, and now the Chinese know the ability for them to just run over and grab it is pretty much gone.
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the 1 China deal in '72 along with Nixon's visit there prob seemed like a correct move at that time. looks to me now like might have been a bad idea. the 1 China policy never seemed right to me. of course i was not privy to whatever secret talks were happening. the sellout of our industry by the corp elites is a different issue. may have something to do with VN war's after effects. the whole China/VN thing makes no sense. as i recall (and can't quote) Mao had said that he wouldn't go into VN if we didn't get too close to his border. true,i think,as he was all tied up with the cultural revolution after the great leap forward and not in good shape for a big mil commitment like in Korea.
 
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Because - Chinese, North Koreans and all those Asians :ROFLMAO:

Ray McGovern noted that many of the present "Russia Specialists" at a certain intelligence agency which shall remain unnamed can't even read / speak in Russian, so who knows...
 
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sad. this should have ended long ago. fucking war profiteers make me sick.
some are claiming these were ukrainians that killed them because they feel betrayed by the us.

 
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theLBC said:
sad. this should have ended long ago. fucking war profiteers make me sick.

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Shoots pistol using right hand while approaching first target, does the same with the second target, but also shifts to left hand for the last shot - all while moving - unless I saw it wrong.

Makes you wonder how this guy plays Ping Pong.
 
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kortik said:
A small music break from all the "latest news" - "Farewell of slavianka", the most popular military march in the world. This video is from Sweden, they perform it exactly right, like Russians, but with a little more of "swedish music discipline":



For comparison, this is the "pure" Russian" version. BTW, guys in black uniform with T-shirts with black and white stripes, are naval infanry (aka marines), which is the best trained troops with strongest "killer instincts". Guys in blue and white strips T-shirts are paratroopers. Guys in the same T-shirts but in green helmets with glasses are from Speztnaz GRU. These strips mean all of them can be deployed from airplanes using parachutes.

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Nice, how the men and women seem to have the freedom to smile (or not) while marching in formation - instead of forcing some silly "tactical grimace."
 
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