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Night Vision New Voodoo-MX & Voodoo-R

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That's kind of nuts for a handheld thermal
 
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rlsmith1 said:
I'd prefer the LRF / solver on my rifle so it works during the day as well, but some people seem to think differently. If I have all of that in a clip-on, might as well just use that unit as the dedicated sight
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Just throwing it out there that I’ve changed my mind here a bit… integrating into a single unit makes a lot of sense and daytime range may be simply done with a bino / LRF combo.

Curious if anyone has played with the MX?
 
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rlsmith1 said:
Just throwing it out there that I’ve changed my mind here a bit… integrating into a single unit makes a lot of sense and daytime range may be simply done with a bino / LRF combo.

Curious if anyone has played with the MX?
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If I recall correctly ST42 posted that he has an MX
 
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ST42 said:
😂 Yep, it is true. If fact I used it three days ago and spanked a yote at 472 yards. Dope was perfect.
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Well spill the beans on how it works!! How do you like it compared to a WMLRF / clip-on solution? Both seem to have strengths and tradeoffs. Does the MX have IR lasers onboard or just an LRF?
 
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I'm suddenly now realizing that this is the Voodoo-MX with that big objective:
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And this is the Voodoo-R:
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So the R is basically a Voodoo-S with LRF and AB?
 
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This thing is pretty cool. The cost difference is the same as buying a MARS-LC in terms of having just a Voodoo MX versus a Voodoo ML/MARS. I looked at getting one but ended up with the separate WMLRF instead.

At the time I also did not know it would include AB. That would have potentially changed the decision.
 
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Dogtown said:
I'm suddenly now realizing that this is the Voodoo-MX with that big objective:
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And this is the Voodoo-R:
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So the R is basically a Voodoo-S with LRF and AB?
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I spoke with one of the Voodoo guys last spring (nice guy) and he said the R was a 50mm unit. I asked him kindly for a 50mm clip on and he kindly said no plans at that time haha
 
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So far, so good. Connecting with a customer today who recently took delivery.

My opinion has slightly changed...

Mx makes practical sense if you're dedicating a single rifle to night time ops. Especially if you have limited space and aren't running a chassis system or rings that support a Raptar like rail. It's an edge case.

For most, we use clip-ons to carry over our day rifles into a night platform. If you fall into this category which is presumably 99% of people, it's still better to separate WMLRF & Thermal as two pieces. Otherwise, you're stuck only using the WMLRF when deploying your Thermal - day & night.
 
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I tend to agree, but there are some unique things you could do with an MX, like standalone on a lightweight rifle w/ 5x magnifier. That would give you a very compact setup with 5x scalable with digital zoom, point n click ranging/aiming with disturbed reticle.

But yeah, edge case.

Edit: and honestly at that point, a HALO XRF would be a somewhat close solution at 1/3rd cost
 
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I went back and forth on the LRF + Clip on or one integrated unit and now think I'd prefer an integrated unit since I don't have $6k to $10k to put a MARS on each rifle (bolt, AR10, and 6 ARC). Simply buy a really good clip on like the MX and you have a streamlined solutions package for any rifle at night without the need to adjust the laser POI. I coyote hunt so that's my use case.

Seems like day stuff is usually done in pairs (for me anyway) so a bino+LRF kinda solves the day needs for me (day is usually more static shooting with a spotter or similar and if I have a heavy spotter I'd be inclined to just throw an Impact 4000 on there but that's a really narrow use case for me.

Idk, maybe I'm just trying to justify saving for an MX :ROFLMAO:
 
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FWIW, I've found that moving the MARS between rifles is really easy. I have a pair and often move them around depending on what my loadout for a trip is. The night before I'll mount it to the new rifle, turn on the visible laser and try to zero it as far as I can to my zeroed scope reticle. 300 yards seems sufficient, but farther is better.
 
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Dogtown said:
FWIW, I've found that moving the MARS between rifles is really easy. I have a pair and often move them around depending on what my loadout for a trip is. The night before I'll mount it to the new rifle, turn on the visible laser and try to zero it as far as I can to my zeroed scope reticle. 300 yards seems sufficient, but farther is better.
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I had an Impact 4000 and sold it because I got tired of the weight and swapping around / sighting in. Maybe I'm just lazy but I kinda like the grab and go capability of an integrated unit (and I'll nearly always have a bino+LRF on me during the day anyway)
 
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ST42 said:
Get some time behind it, and you’ll love it. My furthest so far has been 747 on a perfect night. If you’re running in cold climes, get the remote and use a power brick on the pass through. If not in the cold, then carry a few 123’s.

SKI-U-MAH!
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Thank you for the advice, I really appreciate it! I haven't used a thermal since I was issued 2 different types when I was in Fallujah in 2008, so it's been a while. A friend invited me to hunt some coyotes with his hunting group, so hopefully I can get this thermal into the field soon. I'm not sure if I'll keep it on the Surgeon CSR or if I'll move it to another rifle. Your advice is definitely going to help get me prepared for a hunt in the near future.

That's an awesome set-up in your photo above. Do you have the ML or MX on that rifle? Is the LRF on top of the scope hooked up to your thermal? Hopefully the internal LRF in the MX is enough and I don't need to use an external LRF with it!

I like the remote on your rifle, that's probably going to be my next purchase. It's really a pain in the ass to reach all the way forward to adjust the MX. How do you normally adjust the focus knob on the objective housing at the front of the thermal when you're out hunting? Do you constantly adjust it or do you set it to a specific range where you expect the most targets?

Do you have a power attached to your rifle in that photo? If so, is there any way you could post a few photos showing how you everything set-up? Is there anything else you think I should know or do before I take the MX into the field?

Thank you for the help!
 
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USMCSGT0331 said:
I recently picked up an MX, and it's my first thermal, so hopefully I chose a good one to start with!

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For what it’s worth, I’d use an optic with lower magnification / higher FOV for coyotes. It’s nice to dial way up but they’re usually running and often 200-400y away so quickly getting on target is important.

I’m jelly, hope you enjoy that MX!!!
 
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@rlsmith is right on the money. That long shot I made was a yote that hung up out there and was sitting on his ass giving off warning barks. @USMCSGT0331, I am using the MX too. I have the LRF on there as I typically hike back into the hills and do an afternoon to night hunt. So the LRF is used for that. The power brick isn’t in that pic. Basically you just use one of the USB cords that came with the thermal, and it plugs into the opposite side of the remote. The remote is a “Smart”as in it knows which hand you are using it with. I believe that is determined by which port on the remote you have the lead plugged into that connects to the thermal.
I’m using HMT’s so I don’t need to scan using the rifle. I can spot them and then follow them in with the rifle. My typical shots are well within 200 yards. Also, I am typically right around 8x or so in the day optic.
@USMCSGT0331 Thank you for your service brother.
 
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