Has anyone out there tried the subsonic load of 8gr. titegroup with a 168gr. BTHP on hodgdons website with a velocity of 1080fps? If so, how did it work? What did it sound like through a suppressor ?
Hodgdon's .308win subsonic titegroup load
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Re: Hodgdon's .308win subsonic titegroup load
I really doubt that anyone here has tried that load.
Are you sure you typed that right?
I really doubt that anyone here has tried that load.
Are you sure you typed that right?
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Re: Hodgdon's .308win subsonic titegroup load
Titegroup is a good powder, and is insensitive to case position. It is one of the most suitable pistol powders for subsonic 308 loading.
Also, you may look into using Trailboss. It is nearly as fast-burning, but a subsonic powder charge fills the case much more than others.
Titegroup is a good powder, and is insensitive to case position. It is one of the most suitable pistol powders for subsonic 308 loading.
Also, you may look into using Trailboss. It is nearly as fast-burning, but a subsonic powder charge fills the case much more than others.
Re: Hodgdon's .308win subsonic titegroup load
If titegroup is a published load, id trust it. But my intuition says wow! Awful fast for a rifle. I use 5.5gr TG for my 185gr .45 loads... the case will hold 15gr. 8 gr in a 308 case isn't going to take up much space.
If titegroup is a published load, id trust it. But my intuition says wow! Awful fast for a rifle. I use 5.5gr TG for my 185gr .45 loads... the case will hold 15gr. 8 gr in a 308 case isn't going to take up much space.
Re: Hodgdon's .308win subsonic titegroup load
I tried TB with good results, But I wanted a bigger bullet(220 instead of a 150-168) I found that in order to get a 220 to get up to speed I had to compress the load AND it was still only doing 900ish. So I moved to Clays, my first loads were dangerously slow (600fps) but I worked up to 10.5 gr and have a perfect 1000-1050fps with a 220gr RN. Very powerful and pretty accurate too, have shot them out to 300yds with 2moa groups.
I tried TB with good results, But I wanted a bigger bullet(220 instead of a 150-168) I found that in order to get a 220 to get up to speed I had to compress the load AND it was still only doing 900ish. So I moved to Clays, my first loads were dangerously slow (600fps) but I worked up to 10.5 gr and have a perfect 1000-1050fps with a 220gr RN. Very powerful and pretty accurate too, have shot them out to 300yds with 2moa groups.
Re: Hodgdon's .308win subsonic titegroup load
Yep just made another 100 the other night loads are 5.5gr for the 168gr bthp 980fps/ 5gr for 150gr fmj 950fps. they shoot great and as stated above the powder is insensitive to case position. dont start off with 8gr
Yep just made another 100 the other night loads are 5.5gr for the 168gr bthp 980fps/ 5gr for 150gr fmj 950fps. they shoot great and as stated above the powder is insensitive to case position. dont start off with 8gr
Re: Hodgdon's .308win subsonic titegroup load
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I tried TB with good results, But I wanted a bigger bullet(220 instead of a 150-168) I found that in order to get a 220 to get up to speed I had to compress the load AND it was still only doing 900ish. So I moved to Clays, my first loads were dangerously slow (600fps) but I worked up to 10.5 gr and have a perfect 1000-1050fps with a 220gr RN. Very powerful and pretty accurate too, have shot them out to 300yds with 2moa groups. </div></div>
Was that in a bolt action or semi auto platform???
I am looking for a good subsonic load using 220gr sierra match king.
Thanks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coldboremiracle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I tried TB with good results, But I wanted a bigger bullet(220 instead of a 150-168) I found that in order to get a 220 to get up to speed I had to compress the load AND it was still only doing 900ish. So I moved to Clays, my first loads were dangerously slow (600fps) but I worked up to 10.5 gr and have a perfect 1000-1050fps with a 220gr RN. Very powerful and pretty accurate too, have shot them out to 300yds with 2moa groups. </div></div>
Was that in a bolt action or semi auto platform???
I am looking for a good subsonic load using 220gr sierra match king.
Thanks
And... I'm gonna revive this 13 year old thread to chime in....
I just loaded up a dozen rounds using this load. Except I accidentally grabbed 178 ELDX insted of the 168 Sierra BTHP. I loaded 8.0gr to a COAL of 2.800".
F*ck it. Gonna shoot them with a chrono. I'm guessing it'll be around 950 fps and everything will be fine. There's a 180gr load listed that calls for 8.5 gr of Titegroup so I doubt it'll kill me. Both loads are under 25k psi as published. If you don't hear from me, I blew my face off and I'm dead.
I just loaded up a dozen rounds using this load. Except I accidentally grabbed 178 ELDX insted of the 168 Sierra BTHP. I loaded 8.0gr to a COAL of 2.800".
F*ck it. Gonna shoot them with a chrono. I'm guessing it'll be around 950 fps and everything will be fine. There's a 180gr load listed that calls for 8.5 gr of Titegroup so I doubt it'll kill me. Both loads are under 25k psi as published. If you don't hear from me, I blew my face off and I'm dead.
Pretty typical stuff for the experimentally minded folks and those afflicted by shortages lol.
Works well! I'd prefer cast bullets always so it's harder to stick them in the barrel.
Works well! I'd prefer cast bullets always so it's harder to stick them in the barrel.
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I use 8-8.4 grains of TG in an 18” .308 bolt gun with subx 190’s. It grouped well out to 150 yards. 1040-1070 fps muzzle velocity. I also tried benchmark but TG grouped better.
Nice... thanks for the bookmark! I see some 300gr 45-70 loads I want to try on that site.
I typically add a small piece of cotton wadding to my 308 sub loads to keep the powder pushed back.
Still haven't tried my 178 ELD-X over 8gr TG loads. But I did load up some 45-70 405gr LFP with about 11.5gr (can't remember exactly) of TG and had several keyholes on paper at 15yds. And velocity was above the supersonic threshold by about 150+fps. It's a miracle I didn't have baffle strikes on my Obsidian 45 can. I guess the 405gr bullets need velocity to stabilize with the 1:20 twist rate.
I'll circle back and let you know how my .308 subs work out when I finally get around to shooting them.
I'll circle back and let you know how my .308 subs work out when I finally get around to shooting them.
It’s your choice but during load development it’s suggested to start suppressed loads without the suppressor to avoid possible baffle strikes and to eliminate reasons for keyholes. Good luck
UPDATE:
I shot a dozen 178 ELD-X over 8.0gr of Titegroup today. My rifle is a 16" Remington SPS Tactical 1:10 w/Rugged Razor 7.62 suppressor:
1116.1 FPS AVG
1157.8 FPS MAX
1078.9 FPS MIN
78.9 FPS XS
22.7 FPS SD
Even the fastest round seemed to stay below the sound barrier. Weather was 65 degrees F with light rain/high humidity. I'll probably back it off just a few tenths of a grain to ensure that it stays subsonic even in cold weather.
I shot a dozen 178 ELD-X over 8.0gr of Titegroup today. My rifle is a 16" Remington SPS Tactical 1:10 w/Rugged Razor 7.62 suppressor:
1116.1 FPS AVG
1157.8 FPS MAX
1078.9 FPS MIN
78.9 FPS XS
22.7 FPS SD
Even the fastest round seemed to stay below the sound barrier. Weather was 65 degrees F with light rain/high humidity. I'll probably back it off just a few tenths of a grain to ensure that it stays subsonic even in cold weather.
