22lr PRS shooters who made the switch to ZCO glass

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Seems like I may be missing something.

I understand the clarity is top notch and eye strain can be reduced but have you had a noticeable increase in points during a match? Is there more nuance than optical clarity and turret feel? I watched shooters chase gear to improve scores but I have been a bit reserved while using the fast follow method.

What am I missing? Is this the 1 and done?

-Jay
 
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Jwoo said:
Seems like I may be missing something.

I understand the clarity is top notch and eye strain can be reduced but have you had a noticeable increase in points during a match? Is there more nuance than optical clarity and turret feel? I watched shooters chase gear to improve scores but I have been a bit reserved while using the fast follow method.

What am I missing? Is this the 1 and done?

-Jay
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My switch from Athlon Ares ETR to Gen 3 Razor did increase my points, as long as my DOPE, positional skills, and work flow are tight and efficient enough to give me time and brain power to devote to what is happening down range. Once your shooting skills and time management are dialed in, wind and small targets will crush your point total. Good glass us how you see every miss and edge impact you can and adjust to make the next shot better.
 
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As a self-proclaimed gear chaser since 2017, I can tell you that 90+% of shooters would increase their scores a lot more with a weekend class than a new scope. I have found myself in this category. I do feel like any gear upgrade MIGHT buy you 5 points max, but no more. It's like losing weight, we will buy tons of equipment and gym memberships and do anything, but diet and exercise.
 
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Went from PST Viper to Razor to NF ATACR to ZCo now.

Sure, clarity improves and it's compared to starting with ruger precision rimfire, going to B14, then CZ and finally ending up giving to RimX or Vudoo.

Some of us will chase the gear for sure...where more practice would fill in the points gap.

Personally wasn't chasing points just wanted to see what else is out there and made mistakes of looking thru other folks glass.

If you're unstable on a prop, can't make wind calls and your dope and time management sucks , I don't care if you're running TT, you're points will show it.

I could easily go back to razor or NF and be fine without Zco, what's funny is I'm running a gen2 razor on my 6gt and Zco on my 22lr..

Another point is that nowadays you'll see matches with 80% of vudoo and rimx and the top 5 point margin is 2/3 misses. So having better glass could gets you more clarity and wider POV, better turrets, shit even confidence so if that gets your that extra 2 or 3 points in a match it moves you up generously.







My 2c...
 
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Personally going from a reticle in 0.5 mil increments to 0.2 mil did a lot more for me since it seems like we (or at least I do) hold a lot in rimfire matches.
 
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I've become an optics snob as my eyesight has gotten a bit worse in recent years. To me, clarity and micro-contrast / definition are top factors for seeing a heavily shot up target in shadow with a dark bush behind it. Reticle choice is a close second for me in choosing an optic. I've had ZCO and loved it tremendously, except the 15 mils per revolution turret that I can't see well enough anymore. Top-tier glass, for sure.
 
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In the right conditions the ZCO has earned me more points. In a match last year the fog/haze/dew was terrible and folks running scopes like the Razor or Nightforce had a really tough time seeing targets. The folks running TT or ZCO did not.
 
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ZCOklahoma said:
As a self-proclaimed gear chaser since 2017, I can tell you that 90+% of shooters would increase their scores a lot more with a weekend class than a new scope. I have found myself in this category. I do feel like any gear upgrade MIGHT buy you 5 points max, but no more. It's like losing weight, we will buy tons of equipment and gym memberships and do anything, but diet and exercise.
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Exactly. Practice makes perfect. Well that’s the idea anyway. More like practice makes improvement. Our range sets course of fire up on Saturday before a Sunday match. Just getting to go through the motions with the practice helps so much come Sunday. Wish they had just a range with those types of targets all the time. But people will steal stuff.
 
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I went to ZCO from a PST G2 for a few reasons. I desired an upgrade because I was struggling to resolve downrange info in marginal conditions, like gray targets, misses into shaded dirt, etc. I went to ZCO in particular because I didn’t want to wonder if my glass was holding me back, and TT didn’t offer scopes appropriate for RF at the time.

Has it bought me points? Absolutely. Will it lift you out of midpack? Nah. But if you’re fighting for wins, then as someone mentioned earlier, those 2-3 extra hits absolutely matter.
 
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ZCOklahoma said:
As a self-proclaimed gear chaser since 2017, I can tell you that 90+% of shooters would increase their scores a lot more with a weekend class than a new scope. I have found myself in this category. I do feel like any gear upgrade MIGHT buy you 5 points max, but no more. It's like losing weight, we will buy tons of equipment and gym memberships and do anything, but diet and exercise.
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5% or 5 points in a 1 day match is huge for those chasing the podium. That’s 1/2 point/stage generally. A solid process gets a shooter into contention, but spotting a couple misses for a good wind call that could even hold for a couple stages changes the rankings pretty fast.
 
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Emerson0311 said:
5% or 5 points in a 1 day match is huge for those chasing the podium. That’s 1/2 point/stage generally. A solid process gets a shooter into contention, but spotting a couple misses for a good wind call that could even hold for a couple stages changes the rankings pretty fast.
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While I know I'm supposed to disagree and call you stupid because this is the internet, I can see the merit of your argument. I was trying to say that there is no magic gear bullet that will rocket you from the bottom to the top of the standings. The % of improvement with any upgrade is relative to the overall skill of the shooter.
 
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ZCOklahoma said:
While I know I'm supposed to disagree and call you stupid because this is the internet, I can see the merit of your argument. I was trying to say that there is no magic gear bullet that will rocket you from the bottom to the top of the standings. The % of improvement with any upgrade is relative to the overall skill of the shooter.
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Whether or not pursuit of the podium is worth it? Who knows? Racing riding mowers vs a shot at NASCAR seat, or fitness exercise vs trying to qualify for the world’s, that is real question.
 
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