Friend is waiting for refund from the Gunbroker seller for a pistol lost/stolen by USPS way back on December 3rd
What is the typical wait time for Refund?
What is the typical wait time for Refund?
USPS steals/loses Gunbroker pistol shipment. How many months until USPS pays the insurance claim?
- Thread starter mikeinfwa
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This happened to me with a rifle. I had to get a friend at the ATF involved. There was a specific hub that was stealing this shit, come to find out. You need to write the postmaster and tell them you are getting the ATF involved, then like for real, get them involved.
It’s my understanding that usps no longer ships pistols. Thought ups overnight was the only one still going??
My FFL uses USPS to ship hand guns, and long guns............and yes he had problems with theft........
Sounds like the shipper might be reluctant to refund? Contact usps and ask about the status on the insurance claim via the tracking number?
USPS typically takes 30 days to issue an insurance payout, but I would bet money that this seller did not declare the firearm and will not be receiving a check.
I had a gun get lost during COVID, I sent the guy a refund within 30 minutes of USPS confirming that the package was “completely lost”. I did call the receiving FFL to verify it had not shown up, but you are dealing with a bad seller.
I had a gun get lost during COVID, I sent the guy a refund within 30 minutes of USPS confirming that the package was “completely lost”. I did call the receiving FFL to verify it had not shown up, but you are dealing with a bad seller.
The shipper is a guy I have done lots of business with. He is good to go. Why was the missing mail request not put in for 18 days after it was out for delivery? When it’s out for delivery and doesn’t deliver for whatever reason it should track as an exception right away. Tell your “friend” to have some patience; the seller/ shipper waited a full 14 days for your”friend’s” payment to show up. When he gets his insurance payment he’ll pay your “friend”.
When did USPS start shipping handguns? That used to be a flat “No!” I thought it still was.
USPS has always allowed shipping handguns as long as you are an FFL.
Ah, I see. They accept FFL to FFL (vs Anyone to FFL like Fed Ex). Since I'm not an FFL, that option was never available to me so I didn't realize they would accept a handgun from an FFL. It seems like a stupid rule, as long as the shipment is going TO an FFL.
It typically takes 2 months to get your money back from USPS. They take 30 from the date of loss before they admit it is lost, then another 30 days to issue the payment. They have a third party that handles their claims.
If shipping dealer did not Form 1508 the shipment he will got get his money back.
The seller owes a refund no matter whether he gets reimbursed or not. If he refuses to reimburse for the lost gun call the ATF office responsible for his area and file a complaint. He probably didn't even insure the package.
I don’t know how many parcel post employees there are in the US (USPS, fedex, ups, dhl, etc), but every one of them is a reason to only do gun deals from the trunk of a car in a Walmart parking lot.
Yeah, imagine that.. criminals working at US Postal Service involved in felonious conduct. If they ever get caught it never makes news headlines that Ive seen.
You would think it would be pretty easy to view videos as well as tracking the package and who touched it. But probably these criminals have learned how to beat the cameras and inept management
I just almost went through this. Shipped a rifle and it got lost for 10 days, no info at all. I was just starting to wonder about the right course of action when thankfully, it showed up. The buyer was a prince throughout, far more patient than I. What I learned is that according to the Postmaster General its still the sender's until its actually received by the recipient. If its actually been declared lost then its the sender's responsibility to refund the buyer and wait for the insurance...which hopefully was used. At least that what I came to understand.
Why anyone would ever ship anything valuable without insurance is beyond my imagination.
As mentioned above, insurance payout is 60 days from claim which is 2-4 weeks from sent date. Figure on 90 days if all goes well.
A surprising amount of “lost” items get “found” mysteriously days before the payout date.
A surprising amount of “lost” items get “found” mysteriously days before the payout date.
This. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Once it tracks, "Out For Delivery", It is in possesion of a particular mail employee. If it then doesn't actually deliver, it's on him.
This out for delivery scenario makes me think someone at processing facility falsely tagged the package as out but diverted it to another location or person.
It would take an idiot to think he/she/it could “5 finger discount” a pistol without someone filling a claim
It would take an idiot to think he/she/it could “5 finger discount” a pistol without someone filling a claim
Where it started:
Where it was going:
Gee, there’s a shock. Probably some hood rat liberated it from the mailman’s truck.
Where it was going:
Gee, there’s a shock. Probably some hood rat liberated it from the mailman’s truck.
I do agree the buyer should be made whole in the end, however as a buyer I would not expect to get an immediate refund for a non-replaceable item. The package legit got lost . The USPS is 1000% at fault. The buyer and the seller will both experience pain. In the end, no matter how the claim shakes out, the buyer must be made whole. I bought some 118LR ammo off a member here. it went POOF at the UPS destination hub here in Minneapolis. Seller put in a claim and told me he would pay me as soon as he got his check, which he did. I was happy. I sucked it up. I got paid in a couple months.
Has the inspection service been contacted?
As much as I hate to say it, it could easily be in a container in the office and the management is too trifling to go looking for it and telling you they have looked.
Not having a delivery or exception scan on it should have raised a flag the next day.
As much as I hate to say it, it could easily be in a container in the office and the management is too trifling to go looking for it and telling you they have looked.
Not having a delivery or exception scan on it should have raised a flag the next day.
My wife recently made a lost package claim for a Priority mail package that she mailed and my daughter never received.
My wife made the claim at 16 days, and had a USPS refund check in less than 2 weeks. The amount was about $80 and it wasn't a firearm.
My wife made the claim at 16 days, and had a USPS refund check in less than 2 weeks. The amount was about $80 and it wasn't a firearm.
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Droid has equivalent, if you are a heathen.
My last claim was paid in 2 days. Check in my hand a week later. Ts crossed, Is dotted….
My current claim is past 30 days with denial. I screwed up filing, so I will appeal. My fault.
Airtags
Airtags
Did I mention Airtags…….
Discretely hidden w/ speaker disabled.
Droid has equivalent, if you are a heathen.
My last claim was paid in 2 days. Check in my hand a week later. Ts crossed, Is dotted….
My current claim is past 30 days with denial. I screwed up filing, so I will appeal. My fault.
The insurance claims can take quite a while, typically several weeks to months depending on the situation. It's frustrating. Hope it resolves soon!
i had a scope went missing a while back It was allegedly sent to the lost mail center in atlanta( yes this is a real place)
Insurance denied saying it was delivered. Argued back and forth about it not being delivered where it was supposed to be. Still denied.
Luckily a few weeks later it shows back up at my house with all labels still in place
Insurance denied saying it was delivered. Argued back and forth about it not being delivered where it was supposed to be. Still denied.
Luckily a few weeks later it shows back up at my house with all labels still in place
And then what happens when USPS delivers the package a bit after that and having found the package and then the "buyer" of course refuses to pay and refuses to communicate with you and enjoys being a bastard?
Oh yes that happens, I've had it happen to us.
Hence no refunds until after the claim has been processed and settled.
Sellers have just as much right to protect their assets and interest as do the buyers.
And buyers will just have to wait for paperwork and such to be done on high value items and that's life.
Yeah 13/80s strike again.
Usps is a welfare agency at this time. Even in the middle of nowhere all the employees are hood rats
