300 yards and in. Coyotes to turtles….
Will the 22 arc give me a bigger grin than 223 will for this purpose?
Will the 22 arc give me a bigger grin than 223 will for this purpose?
223 vs 22 arc 16” for ranch rifle
- Thread starter Jmccracken1214
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Just go ARC. You're shooting moving targets. You want your bullet there as quickly as possible. You can also load the 62 eldvt with more room in the arc than in the 223. Not that you want to specifically run that bullet but it might be a good option with the coyotes.
I’ve got a bit of 77 smk I load on my Dillon that I run in my 18” heavy DD. I’ve got a 20” arc as well, but I’ve made it heavier than I care to tote around.
So looking for a stock 16” bolt gun . Guess I’ll hold out for another arc
If you plan on only shooting factory ammo... .223 will be cheaper to feed, but if you plan on reloading, or you just want more "ass" behind it for killing coyotes, go .22 ARC.
Personally, I'd go .22 ARC regardless, but that's just me.
Meh I think 22arc is cheaper when comparing premium options. Like mk262 etc
I was talking more or less bulk surplus for plinking like M855 or XM193F.
Will it give you a bigger grin? Probably not, for 300 yards you probably won't even notice. Considering the ARC has less case capacity than the valkyire and it was only getting 100 or 150fps on a plain 223. I wouldn't expect the the diffrence to noticeable for 300 yards.
For me, when considering the 22ARC v 223/5.56, the question is not “how fast can an AR15 in 22arc shoot light bullets. Instead, the question is “how fast can an AR15 in 223/5.56 shoot the very heavies like 88 or 90, loaded to mag length?…” 
Funny you mention Hodgdon. They put the 22 arc before the 224v on their list which normally runs from low to high case capacity wise. They do consistently show the arc charges with a couple grains more then the valkyrie, to make the same velocity when shooting 55g bullets. They both shoot 55g bullets about 100fps faster than a 223 just like I said. So please, go notice that 300 yards and in and tell me if it gives you more of a "giggle."
Dead caliber.
I know a guy who shoots 218 Bee.
Is he very old and almost dead as well?Funny you mention Hodgdon. They put the 22 arc before the 224v on their list which normally runs from low to high case capacity wise. They do consistently show the arc charges with a couple grains more then the valkyrie, to make the same velocity when shooting 55g bullets. They both shoot 55g bullets about 100fps faster than a 223 just like I said. So please, go notice that 300 yards and in and tell me if it gives you more of a "giggle."
Dead caliber.
You know.Funny you mention Hodgdon. They put the 22 arc before the 224v on their list which normally runs from low to high case capacity wise. They do consistently show the arc charges with a couple grains more then the valkyrie, to make the same velocity when shooting 55g bullets. They both shoot 55g bullets about 100fps faster than a 223 just like I said. So please, go notice that 300 yards and in and tell me if it gives you more of a "giggle."
Dead caliber.
Some people like to shoot instead of sitting around basically doing desk work for hours and hours.
My range is closed this week...
Funny you mention Hodgdon. They put the 22 arc before the 224v on their list which normally runs from low to high case capacity wise. They do consistently show the arc charges with a couple grains more then the valkyrie, to make the same velocity when shooting 55g bullets. They both shoot 55g bullets about 100fps faster than a 223 just like I said. So please, go notice that 300 yards and in and tell me if it gives you more of a "giggle."
Dead caliber.
(MV is in FPS and Drop is in inches)
Across the listed loads, the 22Arc averages 76 fps faster than the 224Valk and 191 fps faster than the 223. The 224Valk averages 96 fps faster than the 223. And, as I mentioned above, the ARC and the Valk give one the option to shoot the heavies that the 223/5.56 cannot.
All that said, I'd wager that the performance gap narrows substantially when going from a 24" barrel down to a 16" barrel. All will lose velocity, but my feeling is that the 22ARC and 224Valk lose more than the 223.
So right in the range I said....
And a 223 can shoot any .224 caliber bullet the other two can. This is bolt action rifles. We aren't constrained to 2.25 mag length.
Oops, the we’re not constrained to gas gun pressure…So right in the range I said....
And a 223 can shoot any .224 caliber bullet the other two can. This is bolt action rifles. We aren't constrained to 2.25 mag length.
22ARC bolt gun load data…
I checked the weight on the gen 2 ruger ranch. 6lb 11.2oz.
I pulled a s&w ar15 out of the safe that I have a 16" DD barrel on, took the acog off, and it is 6lb 11.0 oz
lol.
May just throw a dang 1-8 NX8 on this and roll with it. My only beef with the AR is im 90% going to lose brass shooting it out in a hayfield somewhere.. Thats the only thing that bugs me with rolling around with a semi auto.
I do have some 53Vmax to load and 62 eld vt
I pulled a s&w ar15 out of the safe that I have a 16" DD barrel on, took the acog off, and it is 6lb 11.0 oz
lol.
May just throw a dang 1-8 NX8 on this and roll with it. My only beef with the AR is im 90% going to lose brass shooting it out in a hayfield somewhere.. Thats the only thing that bugs me with rolling around with a semi auto.
I do have some 53Vmax to load and 62 eld vt
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53 v max is my go to 223 varmint bullet. For genral purpose varmint shooting something that uses 223 brass is always the correct answer for cheap reloading. If you want to increase the giggles and splats and keep the cheap to loose 223 cases and the ar15 platform. I would suggest taking a look at the 20 practical. It chunks stuff up bad with 39g seirras and 40g v max.
