Elcan has released a Fixed 4X version of their Elcan SpecterDR. It's called the Specter OS4X:
Thanks,
Mike @ CST
Thanks,
Mike @ CST
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Rifle Scopes New Elcan Specter OS4X
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Re: New Elcan Specter OS4X
At this time they do not have a 308 model yet. If they feel this unit will become very popular then they will make a 308 unit.
Mike @ CST
At this time they do not have a 308 model yet. If they feel this unit will become very popular then they will make a 308 unit.
Mike @ CST
Hello, Is there a 308 reticle for the OS 4x yet? Raytheon on line literature says there is, but haven't seen one for sale or even a picture of the reticle. I'd be interested.
Some are still a little internet illiterate. Any normal person would of just called them considering it list their number. lol
Yes, I wasted time calling Raytheon and did not get an answer. This is the correct thread to post, old or not. The internet - home of the illiterate - was a last resort.
, LOL! #$&* you!
Yes, I wasted time calling Raytheon and did not get an answer. This is the correct thread to post, old or not. The internet - home of the illiterate - was a last resort.
You mean you didn't call CS Tactical? The company you specifically asked? Why bump an ancient post and pray they respond quickly, or even respond at all, when you could of called them and got an answer right away? Thanks for reinforcing that some don't quite have critical thinking skills.
I have only seen 5.56 versions of this sight. That having been said, I own one of these and depending on the distance, it works quite well with 7.62x51.
ILya
ILya
Thanks, Ilya. That's good. I'd like something smaller than the USO SR6 - nice glass, but bulky. Which of the two reticles are you using and how does it do at 300 and 600? I'd be shooting SMK 168's from a 16" bbl.
Exactly, the BDC works fine on Minute of Man between both calibers interchangeably depending on the ammo used.
I have the crosshair version and out to 600 yards, it would not be terribly difficult to adapt. How fast is your 168gr load moving out of that 16" barrel?
A while back, I put together into a table a few sample ballistic curves using JBM. This does not have your exact load, but it is not hard to add if you give me the velocity and sight height.
The drop is in mrad and if you are shooting steel, it is easy to compensate for the differences with slightly offset sight in. All rifles shoot a little differently, so you always have to check in the field and adjust as necessary. Once you get to 800, the differences are more significant, but out to 600, this is pretty straightforward.
A while back, I put together into a table a few sample ballistic curves using JBM. This does not have your exact load, but it is not hard to add if you give me the velocity and sight height.
The drop is in mrad and if you are shooting steel, it is easy to compensate for the differences with slightly offset sight in. All rifles shoot a little differently, so you always have to check in the field and adjust as necessary. Once you get to 800, the differences are more significant, but out to 600, this is pretty straightforward.
| Distance, yards | 223 53gr Vmax 3350fps | 223 77gr SMK 2800fps | 6.5Gren 123gr SMK 2500fps | 308Win 155gr Scenar 2850 fps | 308Win 175gr SMK 2620fps | 7.62x54R D166 2500fps |
| 0 | ||||||
| 50 | -0.3 | 0 | 0.3 | 0.4 | 0.6 | 0.5 |
| 100 | 0.2 | 0.4 | 0.5 | 0.5 | 0.6 | 0.6 |
| 150 | 0.2 | 0.3 | 0.3 | 0.3 | 0.3 | 0.4 |
| 200 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 250 | -0.2 | -0.3 | -0.4 | -0.3 | -0.4 | -0.4 |
| 300 | -0.5 | -0.7 | -0.9 | -0.7 | -0.8 | -0.9 |
| 350 | -0.8 | -1.2 | -1.4 | -1.1 | -1.3 | -1.4 |
| 400 | -1.2 | -1.6 | -1.9 | -1.5 | -1.8 | -2 |
| 450 | -1.6 | -2.1 | -2.4 | -1.9 | -2.3 | -2.5 |
| 500 | -2.1 | -2.7 | -3 | -2.4 | -2.9 | -3.2 |
| 550 | -2.6 | -3.3 | -3.7 | -2.9 | -3.5 | -3.8 |
| 600 | -3.1 | -4 | -4.4 | -3.5 | -4.1 | -4.5 |
| 650 | -3.7 | -4.7 | -5.1 | -4 | -4.8 | -5.3 |
| 700 | -4.4 | -5.5 | -5.8 | -4.6 | -5.5 | -6.1 |
| 750 | -5.2 | -6.3 | -6.7 | -5.3 | -6.3 | -7 |
| 800 | -6.1 | -7.3 | -7.5 | -6 | -7.1 | -7.9 |
One thing I forgot to add: the reticle in the Elcan OS 4x is in meters, not yards. However, the adjustment is fairly straightforward.
Internet is the place to post such a question, in a new or old thread. So far, no vendor has responded having one even though manufacturer's literature says it exists. At least you're tickling the thread for web crawlers. Anyway, you have no information.
Has anyone actually handled the fixed sight 4x version?
Are you talking about the 7.62 version? I have not seen any manufacturer's literature that suggests such a thing exists. If you are talking about a 5.56 version, then, as I said, I have one sitting on my rifle right now. It is my favourite AR sight. I used it in a couple of comparisons and it acquitted itself quite nicely. That's the scope in my profile picture.
ILya
ILya
As far as being in stock goes, SWFA has it in stock EuroOptics does not show inventory on the website, but you can always ask. CS Tactical shows it as out of stock, but since Mike is on this thread, he can speak to that.
ILya
ILya
We have the in stock with the exposed turrets.
https://www.cstactical.com/elcan-3x-atos-dmr-sight-w-picatinny-flat-top-mt
https://www.cstactical.com/elcan-3x-atos-dmr-sight-w-picatinny-flat-top-mt
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Unfortunately it's a discontinued item, you'll need to find a used one (That's not fake!) on the PX or Gunbroker
Thanks for your reply. Im all over gunbroker and ar15.com What ia PX?Unfortunately it's a discontinued item, you'll need to find a used one (That's not fake!) on the PX or Gunbroker
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If you find one, hold onto it. I still have mine after all these years. Hundreds of scopes go through my hands. Very few stay here permanently.
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