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There May Be Hope With Teachers Like Her

BullGear

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  • Nov 29, 2017
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    By this time, the kids are confused. She stops the lesson and has a conversation about how she gave everyone the "exact same thing in the exact same way, it wasn't helpful to them." That "fair does not mean everyone gets the same thing, fair means that everyone gets what they need to be successful," Scott said in her TikTok video, which has been liked nearly 800,000 times.
    using this line of thinking...what is her argument against communism?

    "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need"

    whether she intents to or not....she is teaching her kids that EQUITY is more important than EQUALITY.


    a better message would be "does that persons actions affect you?....no?....then why do you care?"
     
    When I was teaching, I taught math, english and science and history as History was written. (Being a teacher of high level special ed students gives a teacher an opportunity to work in almost every subject) Many of my students were quite capable and several actually Earned passing grades did graduate with REAL diplomas. As opposed to the certificate of attendance type of paper work.)

    When the subject came up, I always instructed my students to respect the office of President and the man, at that time who was holding the job.

    Considering the last statement, Boy am I glad and so very happy I am retired. (But I do miss my students, they were great kids, respectful and fun to be around and teach).
     
    shame you did not see the video before this where she was whipping kids to conform to pro communist ideals . all jokes aside Iam happy to see a teacher teaching kids almost anything other than crt or made up bs about white privilege or to go along with mental patients who don't know what gender they are , that ain't going to help them get a job , get ahead , or figure out there place in the world .
     
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    I have met a lot of great teachers over the last 2 years. You are getting the teachers provided by your school boards, provided by the people who pay attention and the people who run your cities. You are bitching about a symptom of the problem, and not even seeing the root cause. Go look in the mirror. How many school board meetings have you been to? How many teachers have you met? Are you involved and do you have any idea what is going on in your local government?
     
    I have met a lot of great teachers over the last 2 years. You are getting the teachers provided by your school boards, provided by the people who pay attention and the people who run your cities. You are bitching about a symptom of the problem, and not even seeing the root cause. Go look in the mirror. How many school board meetings have you been to? How many teachers have you met? Are you involved and do you have any idea what is going on in your local government?

    I have been to exactly 0 meeting. I voted with my feet. My kids went to private school. If you've ever heard of the saying, you can't beat city hall, well city hall is a cake walk compared to your local school board. Socialists have ran the school system for the last 20-25 years. But around here, you don't vote for a single member of the school board, they are appointed. Enough said...
     
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    I have met a lot of great teachers over the last 2 years. You are getting the teachers provided by your school boards, provided by the people who pay attention and the people who run your cities. You are bitching about a symptom of the problem, and not even seeing the root cause. Go look in the mirror. How many school board meetings have you been to? How many teachers have you met? Are you involved and do you have any idea what is going on in your local government?
    LIke in any other group there are great teachers, bad teachers, and everything in between.

    I can think of two, who when I returned to college at 40 and was about to flunk out, inspired me and changed my life. Ended up doing quite well and graduating form a highly ranked university with a good GPA. I wrote the following for those two

    "The purpose of a good instructor is not to merely teach students to memorize and regurgitate facts, but to inspire them to reason and learn to apply those facts to create and find solutions outside the box." Maggot
     
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    Its unfortunate some teachers don't understand its the process of gathering and evaluating information that is important to learn. Most of the information after about the 8th grade, we never need to use again.
     
    Speak for yourself.
    Most of the stuff you learned in high school and didn't know in the 8th grade you routinely use? I feel like the only people who can honestly say that are kids that get life skills classes, and graduate to minimum care facilities. I think most people after the 8th grade could easily be tracked to vocational education, or more college level classes, rather than rehashing stuff for 4 years.
     
    Actually, I still routinely use knowledge that I obtained from my HS AP chemistry and physics classes.
    Yep, and History, geography, and English/American lit. How to compose a well thought out essay. Public speaking. Coherently debating a topic.
    Is that most of what you learned in high school?
    Well, as my class load was either AP or electives, I can say that "yes, that is most of what I learned in High School." While college expanded on much of my HS education, it was HS that laid the foundation. If you are not using education you received in HS, your parents should demand a refund- from you.
     
    Yep, and History, geography, and English/American lit. How to compose a well thought out essay. Public speaking. Coherently debating a topic.

    Well, as my class load was either AP or electives, I can say that "yes, that is most of what I learned in High School." While college expanded on much of my HS education, it was HS that laid the foundation. If you are not using education you received in HS, your parents should demand a refund- from you.
    Then we are in complete agreement. That's mostly not the information, that is the process. Just like I said in the original comment.

    Its unfortunate some teachers don't understand its the process of gathering and evaluating information that is important to learn. Most of the information after about the 8th grade, we never need to use again.
     
    Then we are in complete agreement. That's mostly not the information, that is the process. Just like I said in the original comment.

    Its unfortunate some teachers don't understand its the process of gathering and evaluating information that is important to learn. Most of the information after about the 8th grade, we never need to use again.
    I would argue that 'information' encompasses much more than facts and figures, but we are in agreement that facts and trivia can be looked up in books or online. There is, in fact, an argument that people are getting 'dumber' due to the easy access to information. To the point that more and more people tend toward looking up things that they should know- in the same way that easy access to a calculator will cause people to use the calculator for unnecessary calculations.

    Hell, even college was more "how to think" than how much information can be crammed into a brain. But, public speaking was taught in the Speech/Debate class- as were the concepts of debate (obviously). We deal with 'straw man' arguments right here on SH daily. How to compose an essay was taught- and drilled home- in AP Lit courses.

    My freshman chemistry professor made a pretty profound impact on me. He only required that we memorize one 'fact' in either of the 2 freshman chem courses, or in the P chem course I took later- the specific heat of water (I just fact checked my memory and it is still in there). The reason was that you can look up 'facts' in a book- that is why reference books exist. He wanted us to build what he called 'chemical intuition.' Tests were open notes (any fact or formula required was given on the exam) and they were scheduled after hours to insure that everyone had sufficient time to complete them. Encyclopedic knowledge (without understanding) was insufficient to the task.

    There are some things that you just need to memorize (eg, multiplication table), but the 'how and why' is much more important than the final answer. It's not enough to know that 10x10=100 if you don't know how or why the math works like it works.

    That said, I am pretty sure I learned where Kyrgyzstan is while in HS. Why is that important? A buddy of mine just got back from a Marco Polo sheep hunt in Kyrgyzstan, and if I had not learned that little tidbit in HS, I would not know where that country is on the globe- it certainly was not in my primary/secondary education, nor in my college education. There are 100s of little bits of facts and trivia that you learned in HS that you don't even remember that you learned, and don't realize that you use on a daily basis.
     
    I’ve had one article published and several papers used for training statewide. Also, I have made several public speaking presentations so one might deduce I am fairly well versed in the English language. All this despite my dyslexic spelling, and spell check changing correct spelling and wording.That said, taking english over and over again is strictly the pits. Learning (read rote memorizing) english rules is even more of the pits. One might suspect, I am not a huge fan of sitting in english classes. (Notice that I intentionally did not capitalize “english” in several plaes.)

    However, much of what I learned in high school and college and grad school, (well maybe not grad school cause my friend JM and I kinda wrote the book most of the special ed professions taught from) I have used extensively.

    Civics. Learned how and appreciate how our government works
    History - a true love that I continue to study even today at 73 years of age
    Science(s) - learn how and why our world actually works. (Had a high school biology class that Did Not focus on latin names but how biology works. That teacher will never know how much I appreciate and loved his class.
    Music - still today I appreciate not only the sound of music but what it takes to make that sound.
    Sports - played jsut a bit under Coach Charlie Brown. One of the finest high school coaches to ever stand on the sidelines. Learned how to make groups work together and why teamwork is so important
    Math - Algebra? Ever made a purchase with money? You used algebra. Ever made a trip in a vehicle? You used algebra. Ever figured which way a tree would fall, put together a small building, You used geometry. Just don’t think about angles or equations, but they are there. What about sighting in your rifle, reloading ammo, determining distances, all math, all made easier by those men and women who labor through trying to get us to listen to what appears to be a world class boring class.
    Geography - where things are in our world. Do you realize that many of the fine soldiers and marines of World War II had no idea where they were when they were fighting for our freedom

    History Again (I like history) Everythign mentioned above is a history lesson. History teaches us and continues to teach us what worked and what did not work. As we traveled though our education, we delved more and more into the history of our nation and our world, and in the process learning what worked good enough to get us here. (And maybe get us through the current governmental crisis we are currently experiencing.)