Name The Manufacturer

THEIS · Sep 3, 2021

Hi,

So the Asian countries are not really my specialty so maybe someone here can name the manufacturer of this rifle scope, laser and optics combo pictured here..

Sincerely,
Theis

phlegethon · Sep 3, 2021

The rifle looks a lot like this:

PLA gets new lethal high-precision sniper rifle: report - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

stefan73 · Sep 3, 2021

Chinese LR4 rifle. I'm hunting for the optic.

6.5SH · Sep 3, 2021

Guessing the little arm in front is a prism display to view the distance and DOF in the scope.

THEIS · Sep 3, 2021

Hi,

Yea the rifle is the Norinco NSG-1/CS-LR4..That is the easy equipment.

Sincerely,
Theis

stefan73 · Sep 3, 2021

Found another picture for you.

phlegethon · Sep 3, 2021

A little more info here. I can't find anything on the optics, probably through Norinco as well.

NSG-1 / CS-LR4 - Modern Firearms

Caliber 7,62×51 NATO (.308 Win) Action Manually operated, bolt action Overall length 1100 mm Barrel length 600 mm Weight, empty, w/o scope 6.0 kg Magazine capacity 5 rounds NSG-1 / CS-LR4 Sniper Rifle is manufactured in China for export sales and is offered internationally through the...

modernfirearms.net

stefan73 · Sep 3, 2021

I thought this would be a bit easier.

THEIS · Sep 3, 2021

stefan73 said:
I thought this would be a bit easier.

Hi,

You think I would have asked then, lol...

Sincerely,
Theis

6.5SH · Sep 3, 2021

CS/LR4ÐÍ¾Ñ»÷²½Ç¹ ¡ª¡ª¡¼Ç¹ÅÚÊÀ½ç¡½

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Not a ton of info but perhaps the dates and events listed may reveal more.
The rifle system is also used by the Philippine and Venezuelan military, no idea if they get the same optic packages.

There also seems to be a larger .338 Lapua model.

acudaowner · Sep 3, 2021

darn I was going to guess it's the new super soaker 28000 extreme where the shooter provides the water you just can't see the hose fittings that attach man and the water gun .

6.5SH · Sep 3, 2021

One semi-educated guess is that the optic in the first pic is made by whoever makes Arken; the turret housing, objective and power ring are very similar.

The older pictures sans LRF seem to be similar to the older Athlon scopes with the funky oval-ish shaped housing where the parallax knob is offset from the others.

THEIS · Sep 3, 2021

Hi,

Just FWIW the picture I posted is from yesterday, lol

Sincerely,
Theis

6.5SH · Sep 3, 2021

Other funny thing I just noticed. Both of them have binder clips taped on to the chassis for dope/range cards

EWS6 · Sep 3, 2021

is that a periscope hud in front of the scope? hard to tell from the angle

powdahound76 · Sep 3, 2021

Slope Scope

no idea in the laser.

roostercogburn98 · Sep 3, 2021

Supposedly sold as a system. The scopes have the same prefix of CS, so I’d assume they are also made by norinco. Two scope models come to when you search the CS/LR4A sniper system. One is the CS/OS15(8-32), and the CS/OS20(4-15). That’s where I have dead ended but my guess is it’s a whole package branded norinco.

Mooseknuckles · Sep 3, 2021

THEIS said:
Hi,

So the Asian countries are not really my specialty so maybe someone here can name the manufacturer of this rifle scope, laser and optics combo pictured here..

View attachment 7696570

Sincerely,
Theis

roostercogburn98 said:
Supposedly sold as a system. The scopes have the same prefix of CS, so I’d assume they are also made by norinco. Two scope models come to when you search the CS/LR4A sniper system. One is the CS/OS15(8-32), and the CS/OS20(4-15). That’s where I have dead ended but my guess is it’s a whole package branded norinco.

That’s the same info I found about the scope and night vision.

CS/LR4 - Wikiwand

The CS/LR4 7.62 mm High-Precision Sniper Rifle System, also known as NSG-1, is a bolt-action sniper rifle designed and manufactured by Chinese company Norinco. ...

www.wikiwand.com

6.5SH · Sep 3, 2021

roostercogburn98 said:
Supposedly sold as a system. The scopes have the same prefix of CS, so I’d assume they are also made by norinco. Two scope models come to when you search the CS/LR4A sniper system. One is the CS/OS15(8-32), and the CS/OS20(4-15). That’s where I have dead ended but my guess is it’s a whole package branded norinco.

Found reference to a: CS/OB1 laser rangefinder /ballistic calculation computer system

Also this tidbit:
Poor design of early white light sights

The CS/OS15 and CS/OS17 two types of sights equipped with the CS/LR4 at the beginning have many problems when users actually use them, such as high magnification (both are only 8 to 32 times adjustable), The field is narrow, which affects the observation and search and the continuous shooting of multiple targets in different directions. In addition, the rear reticle of this type of sight does not change with the magnification. It can only use the dense scale of the reticle to aim and measure at 20 times. Other magnifications need to be converted. However, because the zoom handwheel is continuously adjustable, it is difficult to calculate accurately. In addition, the scale unit of the reticle adjustment handwheel is MOA, and the scale unit of the reticle scale is dense, so the adjustment and calculation are quite cumbersome.

It was not improved until the improved CS/OS20A white light sight was used: the sight was changed to 4-15 times adjustable, the cross-density line reticle adopts a front design, and the sight reticle has an interval of 1 density. There is a dense position line, and the dense position value represented by the dense position line does not change at any magnification; the mirror body is equipped with a horizontal and vertical division adjustment handwheel, each gear is 0.05 dense position, and there is also a variable The multiplying hand wheel and the focusing hand wheel can adjust the magnification and focal length, and the performance is much higher than that of CS/OS15 and CS/OS17.

I assume "white light" = daylight.

CS/LR4型狙击步枪 - 维基百科，自由的百科全书

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roostercogburn98 · Sep 3, 2021

I guess if anyone here reads chinese, maybe they could tell us what it says?

roostercogburn98 · Sep 4, 2021

And a few more of the system itself

6.5SH · Sep 4, 2021

roostercogburn98 said:
I guess if anyone here reads chinese, maybe they could tell us what it says?

Interesting zero stop

gxer · Sep 4, 2021

roostercogburn98 said:
I guess if anyone here reads chinese, maybe they could tell us what it says?

Specs I got from reading it:

Magnification: 8-32x
Weight: 1.05 kg
Length: 350 mm
Objective Lens: 54 mm
SFP
Exit Pupil: 65-62 mm (I'm not sure if there might be a dot I'm missing)
Focus Distance: 15 m - inf
Illumination: R/G LED, suitable for dusk/dawn/night use, perhaps not daylight bright

PlinkIt · Sep 4, 2021

Well I read post before thinking of who posted it... Think to myself another guy with google-fu as bad as mine

Then I realize @THEIS posted it...

I now imagine a small group of contractors taking down military bases just to download all the files on weapon system contracts...

pmclaine · Sep 4, 2021

THEIS said:
Hi,

Just FWIW the picture I posted is from yesterday, lol

Sincerely,
Theis

Did you get behind it?

I dont know anything about the gear but the whole presentation strikes me as......

Having all the elements of what their research shows is a practical precision rifle.

They than take those elements and kind of jazz them up a little, somehow making them look cheaper than the parts they had seen in research.

Its like the philosophy "Look we have all the features, therefore this is a great rifle" but it ends up just looking cheap and prone to breakage.

Not that I want them to change anything...Carry on China.

Is their stuff actually good or more of the "Good enough, and easy to replace because the conscripts are going to never get a completely functioning rifle"

THEIS · Sep 4, 2021

Hi,

Well sadly the China Snow Leopards SF units are pretty much undefeated at every International Warrior competition they participate in at KASOTC in which they were up against various USA, German, British, etc etc elements.

IIRC the only unit to ever beat them was the Russian supplied unit of Chechnyans.

Sincerely,
Theis

diggler1833 · Sep 4, 2021

John Plaster sees that stock and starts to drool...

pmclaine · Sep 4, 2021

THEIS said:
Hi,

Well sadly the China Snow Leopards SF units are pretty much undefeated at every International Warrior competition they participate in at KASOTC in which they were up against various USA, German, British, etc etc elements.

IIRC the only unit to ever beat them was the Russian supplied unit of Chechnyans.

Sincerely,
Theis

That's biased to include that much driving.

gxer · Sep 4, 2021

pmclaine said:
That's biased to include that much driving.

Why are they using M4 with ACOG? Bought from Taliban?

sleeplz · Sep 4, 2021

gxer said:
Why are they using M4 with ACOG? Bought from Taliban?

Paid by your taxes. Thanks bush

W54/XM-388 · Sep 4, 2021

THEIS said:
Hi,

Well sadly the China Snow Leopards SF units are pretty much undefeated at every International Warrior competition they participate in at KASOTC in which they were up against various USA, German, British, etc etc elements.

IIRC the only unit to ever beat them was the Russian supplied unit of Chechnyans.

Sincerely,
Theis

I'm guessing eventually somebody is going to decide it's not worth trying to compete and will deploy fully autonomous swarms of kill bots with no human intelligence in the decision loop, designed to eliminate everything organic or machine that's not tagged, and then a whole new era of warfare dawns.

LawnMM · Sep 4, 2021

It's obviously a Counter Sniper system

moosemeat · Sep 4, 2021

Nintendo....

Steel head · Sep 5, 2021

It’s the Hunter Xiden system with integrated parmesan pipe and hooker range finder

StealthOwl · Sep 5, 2021

Steel head said:
It’s the Hunter Xiden system with integrated parmesan pipe and hooker range finder

And an extra 10% elevation for the big guy.

Terry Cross · Sep 5, 2021

Interesting side note...
Totally new and just fielded "system" but not suppressed.

Also....
Every image of this with a shooter on it shows the optic really, really high above the receiver which is no biggie because of the adjustable comb yet....every shooter in running the cheek rest way too low and basically shooting with a chin weld. This showcases a different ideology from our own teachings or no ideology at all.

Also ...
Note that the stock has material running from the bottom of what would have been a Satanic AR15 pistol grip that technically makes it a thumbhole stock thus making it California compliant. LOL....

./

stefan73 · Sep 7, 2021

THEIS said:
Hi,

You think I would have asked then, lol...

Sincerely,
Theis

Uuuummmmm

Very Respectfully,
Stefan

rottenruger · Sep 8, 2021

THEIS said:
Hi,

So the Asian countries are not really my specialty so maybe someone here can name the manufacturer of this rifle scope, laser and optics combo pictured here..

View attachment 7696570

Sincerely,
Theis

Sorry. But I can tell you I sure wouldn't like to be the object of his affections downrange! That thing looks SERIOUS !!!

Mr.BR · Sep 17, 2021

THEIS said:
Hi,

Well sadly the China Snow Leopards SF units are pretty much undefeated at every International Warrior competition they participate in at KASOTC in which they were up against various USA, German, British, etc etc elements.

IIRC the only unit to ever beat them was the Russian supplied unit of Chechnyans.

Sincerely,
Theis

Its kinda interesting how Kadirov's Chechens are now some of the Russian most loyal 'subjects' , after fighting two brutal wars

So much so that everytime you see Checheni ,Dagestani units deployed near the hotspot , things are ready to get hot ,till there are no Chechen units there , its just an excersize .

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