Rifle Scopes Advice on optic

camocorvette · Sep 23, 2021

Hey all,

Just hoping for some first hand experience. I'm stuck between a 5-25 strike eagle (really like the price) or a used Bushnell DMR 2 G3 for ($725) or do I just go and get a Gen 2 pst for $1000?

Budget is $1000 max. The lower I can stay the better. Mounted on a Rem700P. Have access to 1300 yard steel target range.

I've read the reviews and like the strike eagle for the price. I've also heard the gen 2 PST glass is better and if I don't need the elevation adjustment to go with the PST over the strike eagle.

Then I see a used Bushnell DMR 2 G3 in the px for a good price. Is the bushnell glass going to be better? Looks to have 30 mils of adjustment too.

Also uses are for banging steel, prs, and I actually enjoy ranging targets with the reticle. Must be mil/mil reticle and turrets.

Thanks

gr8fuldoug · Sep 23, 2021

How about a new, open box, Athlon Optics Ares ETR 4.5-30x56 Black - APLR2 FFP IR MOA for only $999.99?

camocorvette · Sep 23, 2021

Forgot to add and I'll edit. Must be mil/mil turrets and reticle.

camocorvette · Sep 23, 2021

gr8fuldoug said:
How about a new, open box, Athlon Optics Ares ETR 4.5-30x56 Black - APLR2 FFP IR MOA for only $999.99?

I do appreciate the suggestion. My budget won't allow me to get the Cronus tier of optic made in Japan. Not buying Chinese for this rifle. Thank you though!

adavis1138 · Sep 23, 2021

camocorvette said:
I do appreciate the suggestion. My budget won't allow me to get the Cronus tier of optic made in Japan. Not buying Chinese for this rifle. Thank you though!

If you’re not buying Chinese may as well drop the Strike Eagle. You can do better on PST pricing as well. Those scopes are made in the Philippines.

camocorvette · Sep 23, 2021

adavis1138 said:
If you’re not buying Chinese may as well drop the Strike Eagle. You can do better on PST pricing as well. Those scopes are made in the Philippines.

Shit.. I thought the SE was Japan.

camocorvette · Sep 23, 2021

And thanks for the advice

camocorvette · Sep 23, 2021

I've missed a few used Gen2 PST's in the PX. I've got the funds set aside now. So most likely the first one that pops up I'll nab.

Chickentoast · Sep 23, 2021

Vote for the used DMR2, assuming you don't want more than 21X. I had one on my 7005R, solid scope.

*edit: yes, the glass is better than everything else you're considering IMHO.

adavis1138 · Sep 23, 2021

Solid deal on a PST here: https://www.eurooptic.com/Vortex-Viper-PST-5-25x50-EBR-2C-MRAD-PST-5258.aspx

Not the brands you were looking for and higher on the price point, but this is an excellent scope: https://www.eurooptic.com/Nightforce-SHV-4-14x50-F1-.1-MIL-illuminated-Mil-R-C557-Showroom-Demo.aspx

CSTactical · Sep 23, 2021

camocorvette said:
Hey all,

Just hoping for some first hand experience. I'm stuck between a 5-25 strike eagle (really like the price) or a used Bushnell DMR 2 G3 for ($725) or do I just go and get a Gen 2 pst for $1000?

Budget is $1000 max. The lower I can stay the better. Mounted on a Rem700P. Have access to 1300 yard steel target range.

I've read the reviews and like the strike eagle for the price. I've also heard the gen 2 PST glass is better and if I don't need the elevation adjustment to go with the PST over the strike eagle.

Then I see a used Bushnell DMR 2 G3 in the px for a good price. Is the bushnell glass going to be better? Looks to have 30 mils of adjustment too.

Also uses are for banging steel, prs, and I actually enjoy ranging targets with the reticle. Must be mil/mil reticle and turrets.

Thanks

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roostercogburn98 · Sep 23, 2021

Would a 2-10x32 Gen 2 PST be of interest?

deersniper · Sep 23, 2021

Nightforce 4-14f1

can sometimes find Vudu 5-25 for that price also.

wigwamitus · Sep 23, 2021

I'm about the put up a 2-10x pst g2 un shot for $700 and a credo 2-10x for $700 also and Deersniper's trying to buy my NF 2.5-10x !!

PinesAndProjectiles · Sep 23, 2021

The SHV F1 is a hell of a scope. I would put the clarity on par with a Gen II razor.
They can be found in the PX for < $1k

camocorvette · Sep 23, 2021

@CSTactical your who I was gonna go with for the strike eagle. Lots of really good advice. Thank you all. I'd like to go for the higher mag as I shoot lots of paper groups too. So it's nice to crank on the magnification.

camocorvette · Sep 23, 2021

adavis1138 said:
Solid deal on a PST here: https://www.eurooptic.com/Vortex-Viper-PST-5-25x50-EBR-2C-MRAD-PST-5258.aspx

Not the brands you were looking for and higher on the price point, but this is an excellent scope: https://www.eurooptic.com/Nightforce-SHV-4-14x50-F1-.1-MIL-illuminated-Mil-R-C557-Showroom-Demo.aspx

That seems like a really good deal on the pst

camocorvette · Sep 23, 2021

So given the choice of the bushnell 3.5-21 for $725 or a Gen 2 pst 5-25 for $700. Would you guys say go with better glass, or a tad more magnification?

I think I'm leaning towards the bushnell. I'm sure I'd be happy with either one.

adavis1138 · Sep 23, 2021

camocorvette said:
So given the choice of the bushnell 3.5-21 for $725 or a Gen 2 pst 5-25 for $700. Would you guys say go with better glass, or a tad more magnification?

I think I'm leaning towards the bushnell. I'm sure I'd be happy with either one.

Bushnell for me, and I’ve owned both.

camocorvette · Sep 23, 2021

Thanks!

Birddog6424 · Sep 23, 2021

Bushnell. Definitely.

drewthebrave · Sep 23, 2021

I have the DMR II on my 6.5 Creedmoor gasser. It's an excellent scope, especially at that price!

camocorvette · Sep 23, 2021

One last question. Am I going to be wishing I had illumination vs non illumination?

adavis1138 · Sep 23, 2021

camocorvette said:
One last question. Am I going to be wishing I had illumination vs non illumination?

Will you hunt with it, and if so, under what conditions?

camocorvette · Sep 23, 2021

Potentially deer, coyote and varmint. Live on a farm with lots of prairie land. I do find my self shooting towards the end of the day in diminishing light. That's why I'm thinking I may want the illumination

db2000 · Sep 23, 2021

MinnesotaMulisha said:
The SHV F1 is a hell of a scope. I would put the clarity on par with a Gen II razor.
They can be found in the PX for < $1k

I agree.

adavis1138 · Sep 23, 2021

camocorvette said:
Potentially deer, coyote and varmint. Live on a farm with lots of prairie land. I do find my self shooting towards the end of the day in diminishing light. That's why I'm thinking I may want the illumination

I definitely want illumination in all my hunting scopes, but I hunt in a deciduous forest in Michigan so it can get dark quick.

Schw15 · Sep 23, 2021

Bushnell dmr 2 for sure over the Vortex. Illumination is nice when you need and if you need it better get it now and not wish you had it. I've had several scopes with it and forget to use it haha

FuhQ · Sep 24, 2021

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Well, my new Arken SH4 scope came in the mail today... Initial impressions are VERY good. I'm highly impressed with the way this scope feels just handling it after unboxing everything. The turrets are VERY impressive for a scope of this price-point. They are tactile, easily visible/readable...

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TurboTrout · Sep 24, 2021

Got the 15x and 25x PST G2, I’ve been happy with them.

supercorndogs · Sep 24, 2021

I would take the DMRII over the PSTII even if they were the same price. I paid 550 or 600 for the last 3-15 PSTII I bought.

BuildingConceptsllc · Sep 24, 2021

What reticle do you like? That's a big deal for me. I wouldn't get a scope without illumination these days, but that's just me. The PST is very hard to beat for the money imo. Tracks well, awesome reticle options, good illumination, good glass.

adavis1138 · Sep 24, 2021

MudRunner2005 said:
Rifle Scopes - Arken Optics SH4 Gen2 FFP 6-24x50 VPR MIL

Well, my new Arken SH4 scope came in the mail today... Initial impressions are VERY good. I'm highly impressed with the way this scope feels just handling it after unboxing everything. The turrets are VERY impressive for a scope of this price-point. They are tactile, easily visible/readable...

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China

drewthebrave · Sep 24, 2021

I specifically went for the DMR II without illumination because the reticle is slightly thinner for long-range target shooting. There are DMR IIs with illumination, but they might be hard to find.

If you feel you need illumination, the Vortex 3-15x is $600 at EuroOptic and has illumination.

Vortex Viper PST Gen II 3-15x44 EBR-2D MRAD (FFP) PST-3157

FREE SHIPPING on Vortex Viper PST 3-15x44 EBR-2D MRAD (FFP) PST-3157

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FuhQ · Sep 24, 2021

adavis1138 said:
China

So is 95% of the shit everybody owns… I don’t like the fact, but it is what it is.

camocorvette · Sep 24, 2021

I'd prefer the finer optic for more precision. Just sent the guy a pm on the bushnell.

Thanks everyone for the advice

Chickentoast · Sep 24, 2021

camocorvette said:
I'd prefer the finer optic for more precision. Just sent the guy a pm on the bushnell.

Thanks everyone for the advice

Next Q is G3 or H59! G3 is thicker, but still fine for a hybrid hunting and target ret IMHO. Both in the PX if not sold yet.

adavis1138 · Sep 24, 2021

MudRunner2005 said:
So is 95% of the shit everybody owns… I don’t like the fact, but it is what it is.

But he straight up said he was uninterested in Chinese optics.

redx · Sep 24, 2021

used Bushnell for the win

camocorvette · Sep 24, 2021

Bought the bushnell 3.5-21 and just ordered a ARC M BRACE mount. Super excited to mount them up. Thanks for the advice everyone

camocorvette · Sep 11, 2024

Update:

Rocked a G2 DMRII for 2 years. It floated around on the 308 for probably 500-600 rounds. Then onto a 22 for who knows how many bricks of ammo. 5-6,000 rounds? Then for 4-500 on a 20" 223.

It worked awesome. Never failed. Glass was clear, turrets clicked great, tracked perfect.

I always wished it had a little more magnification...
Occasionaly I would wish the reticle was illuminated..

I sold it with regret..

SOLD - Bushnell 3.5-21 DMRII G2 reticle

I have a DMRII with the G2 reticle, non illumination, 50 yard parallax. 1/10 mil turrets. Shows signs of use. It's been on a comp 22 and then a 308 for the last 2 years. Functions 100% perfect. Will come with box, Vortex Defender front scope cap and Otter Creek rear cap. Comes with DST...

www.snipershide.com

What is that scope, but with 25x and illumination?

I've got 2 strike eagles that function perfectly. Just leave you wanting in the glass clarity at certain lighting/weather situations.

Thanks for all that responded. It was good advice.

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