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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    The point is that there's no reason for there not to be a tac division when many local matches have a majority of people shooting tac rifles. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    Edit: Not going to troll Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    A reasonable post in this thread? What is this? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    I don't think you understand any of the arguments in this thread. Making silly irrelevant analogies and saying that you compete with pros isn't helpful. No one is talking about handicapping or removing TR. Adding a new division like this wouldn't affect shooters like that anyways. Sent from...
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    So many straw man arguments in this thread. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    I don't have any problem with different targets. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    We must have very different experiences at matches, because the ones I go to...the majority of shooters are using tactical style rifles. The bodies are already there, but the rules only cater to the minority. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    Yes, you have to play the game... but that isn't an argument for why there can't be a new division to the game. I could say the same thing about people shooting TR and say, "Everyone should shoot open, if you want to be competitive, you have to play the game"
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    Not that I speak for everyone, but I think we like F class. Service rifle doesn't interest me. I prefer multi-purpose guns. With a glock 34 and a tactical .308, I have a plethora of disciplines that I can compete in. I think a lot of people are in the same boat as me. Most people don't want...
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    I think you could just have a field rifle division for open and TR. If you had to group them together, there could be a no magnum limit or a MV limit. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    Such a straw man argument. No one is saying that you eliminate the TR class that stands today. There is absolutely no reason there shouldn't be a class that caters to what a large proportion of shooters bring to local TR matches. The only one's that seem opposed to the idea are guys running...
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    Sounds good to me, except the mag length cartridges. Not many people (even the ones with "field rifles" ) load their mag in F class. Seems like an unnecessary limitation. It just hurts people with rifles that have long throats or shoot bullets that don't jump well. Sent from my...
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    You can just have a width limit, and they have to be folding. This isn't hard.
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    I think I would be satisfied with limiting bipods to atlas/harris styles. It is just getting to the point where I wonder, "Why aren't you guys just shooting benchrest?".
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    It is like having car races labeled "production division" but 90% of the field at local races are using stock mustangs while 10% use ZR1s, GT-Rs, and 911s. The mustangs weren't REALLY competing so the 10% shouldn't be upset when the 90% want to compete against themselves.
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    I agree on the bipods. I have more problems with those than anything else. I think adding a division wouldn't effect the larger matches for the current TR shooters. They will have less people in TR at local matches, but again, they weren't REALLY competing with the tactical rifle shooters...
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    If it would obliterate TR, that just shows you that it needs to be its own divison. Too many local TR matches are won simply because of equipment differences. There's too much difference in equipment for them to be in the same class. They don't want to compete with only one or two other...
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    All of you pointing out that people will just bypass the rules... it isn't that hard. Just have a weight limit, 26" barrel limit, tactical style stock, harris type bipod. That is all that needs to be designated for the division. It isn't hard, stop acting like it would be. Tons of shooting...
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division

    Not sure why everyone is so hostile to the idea. A large portion of people doing F T/R at local matches around the country are using 20-26" medium barrels, tactical stocks, and Harris bipods. A division that catered specifically to that type of setup makes sense. Brad Sauve won with that kind...
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    How to verify anemometer accuracy?

    http://www.amazon.com/GM8908-Digital-Temperature-Measure-Anemometer/dp/B007VAVTHU Figure for $12, I'm fine with it even if it is off by about 3-4 mph
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