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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division #2

    "So what is the definition of a tactical rifle that makes a new class that would make more people come out and shoot more ?" I was not talking about making a new class at all. The classes are fine as is. You can already bring a tactical rifle to an F-Class match and shoot it as long as it...
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division #2

    Hi Roland. With the demand in the US for stuff the delays will eventually hit you to. Our distributor/importers are reporting Berger has over a years wait for deliveries. Krieger is the same. I shot in Phoenix at the SWN in February and the main topic of conversations with everybody was the...
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division #2

    Hi Roland. You may be right about components in the US and knowing where to buy stuff but I live in Canada and the US State department has put severe export restrictions on items coming from the US. Most US companies cannot/will not export out of the US due to the cost of compliance. Right...
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    F T/R Competition New F-Class Division #2

    Hi Guys. I started this new thread because the other was getting too long. I am very concerned about this and proposed a new suggestion to the DCRA (Canada's NRA) which governs F-Class matches here last month. My concern is the type and quality of equipment we all use and the time to put a...
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    F T/R Competition 215 gn hybrid 308w

    Re: 215 gn hybrid 308w I tried the 215 Hybrid's in my long throated 308 at about 2600 fps but found that I got better accuracy from the 210 VLD's so stayed with them. My 308 with 210's will run with the 6mmBr's. Steve
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    Need Target Load for 30-06

    Re: Need Target Load for 30-06 Frogman If you don't mind, what is your barrel length and what velocity are you getting from your 208 A-Max load? Thanks Steve
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    208 Amax - Alternate Powder Thread

    Re: 208 Amax - Alternate Powder Thread I agree. You only get an indication of accuracy at 100 yards. Once you move out to 300 yards or meters then you really learn what the loads will do. I only do 2 and 4 shot testing now at 100 meters then shift to 300 meters. If I get good loads at 300...
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    208 Amax - Alternate Powder Thread

    Re: 208 Amax - Round 2 - Varget Rich On our targets, (800, 900, 1000 yards are the same target) the 5 ring (10 ring in US) is 1 MOA and the V (X ring in US) is 1/2 MOA at 1000 yards. At 1000 yards you are shooting at a 5" V(X) bull and if you aren't punching a high V (X) count and shooting...
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    208 Amax - Alternate Powder Thread

    Re: 208 Amax - Round 2 - Varget Rich Depends on what you are doing. For tactical shooting on relatively large targets probably not, while for 'F' class shooting on the small IKFRA targets, a small difference in accuracy means the difference between winning and out of the running in most...
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    208 Amax - Alternate Powder Thread

    Re: 208 Amax - Round 2 - Varget Rich and Medic I found the same thing as medic in that the A-Max weren't as accurate as the Bergers in my rifle at 300 meters. I am running the Bergers at .010" jammed and as medic indicated they are very accurate and easier to tune. Seat them and go without...
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    208 Amax - Alternate Powder Thread

    Re: 208 Amax - Round 2 - Varget Rich The winds died so I went to the range for more testing. I can get 2650 fps using 50.0 grains of H4350 however I was getting extractor wipe on the brass and a little stickly bolt lift. I consider this way above max and am very comfortable shooting the...
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    208 Amax - Alternate Powder Thread

    Re: 208 Amax - Round 2 - Varget Rich I know I can get 2650 using about 49.0 - 49.5 grains of H4350 because I was nearly there using 48.5 however the accuracy may not be there. Will have to test somemore. They will be high pressure loads but I think within the realm of possiblity. However...
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    208 Amax - Alternate Powder Thread

    Re: 208 Amax - Round 2 - Varget Hi Rich Wind is up today but I will be running tests on H4350 in the future to see what the upper pressure limit is. I think I am close but haen't explored it yet. The accuracy is really consistent from 47.5 grains up so I expect good results. I will also...
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    208 Amax - Alternate Powder Thread

    Re: 208 Amax - Round 2 - Varget Hi Rich Back from range. H4350 proved to be the best between the two powders. I was testing at 300 meters (330 yards). The mirage was heavy today and I know I can do better. 48.0 grains H4350 gave 2560 fps from my 29.5" barrel and 5 shots into 1.25". 4...
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    208 Amax - Alternate Powder Thread

    Re: 208 Amax - Round 2 - Varget Rich I started to breakin my new 308 barrel yesterday and was using H4350 because you were using Varget and didn't see any reason to copy the results. I have a 29.5" barrel and the chamber throated to load a 210 Berger out to 3.040" at the lands. I am...
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    Varget or RL-17? .308 208gr Amax

    Re: Varget or RL-17? .308 208gr Amax Thanks Rich Since I am building the rifle now and will be throating the bullet way out I maybe able to get enough H4350 into the case to make it work. I have been using H4350 in my 223 shooting 90 VLD's to good effect and accuracy for the past several...
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    300 saum loads please

    Re: 300 saum loads please I use H4350 with 210 Bregers in my F class rifle. I found it to be an extremely accurate cartridge and have used it to win a number of big matches in the last year. Try 58.0 grains to start with BR2 primers. I have used 59.0 grains but in my rifle this was too hot...
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    Varget or RL-17? .308 208gr Amax

    Re: Varget or RL-17? .308 208gr Amax Hi All I am just curious about the 308 and 208/210's. I am building a new rifle for 'F-TR' shooting which will have a 29.5" barrel in 308 Win but throated way out specifically for the 210 Berger. I will be able to seat the bullets out to 3.050". It is...
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    Rifle Scopes Nightforce NXS or BR?

    Re: Nightforce NXS or BR? Hi JonB I have been shooting F Class for 5 plus years. This game is totally different than Tactical shooting or Practical unknown distance shooting. It is a pure accuracy game. Therefore, the more scope power you have does, in certain conditions, make a...