That sounds like the same number/symbol gymnastics Q promoted and it turned out to be a flop... not holding my breath on “19” helping anything.
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Two uniforms arrived and went in ~4 minutes into that stream, was flurry of gun fire shortly after, supposedly is when one officer was killed. The rest of it was the giant goat rodeo.I just watched the whole 'stream' again. From the time the stream started (no idea how long after shooting had started) to the time there was an form on actual entry, instead of standing around in a fucking line or fucking around on the roof, I think we were at 40ish minutes if I'm watching the right one.
Think about that. Dead people on the ground. Signs of many more people inside due to the amount of parked cars in the parking lot, 20+ police and its 40 minutes before they actually begin an assault against 1 guy with a gun.
Now, if you're a 'silver lining' type of guy, strategically, that does say something about police willingness to engage in combat from a non superior position. So there is that.
However, from a citizen aspect, that is fucking abysmal and really makes you think.....if it takes that much time and no one is willing to sack up and do something about it....whats the point?
Everybody wants to be a gangster until its time to do gangster shit.
I've been part of successful operations against 'unknown numbers of combatants' with 6 fucking people. 20+ cops hanging around outside while people could be executed is fucking pathetic.
Wanna set up the second server and host it at my house?This Colorado stuff is because of you guys
19 has a host of Conspiracy Theories, with Polis, (Boulder) Governor, and all that comes with him, (true believer) we see the anti internet gun law, and now watch this will be a giant issue because we are in CO
They are gonna crush Guns in CO, because SH is here and they can't control me ...
On top of that, Lauren Boebert, so double whammy to CO they want to stomp us and this is the first shot(s)
19 says it's on
Two uniforms arrived and went in ~4 minutes into that stream, was flurry of gun fire shortly after, supposedly is when one officer was killed. The rest of it was the giant goat rodeo.
I just watched the whole 'stream' again. From the time the stream started (no idea how long after shooting had started) to the time there was an form on actual entry, instead of standing around in a fucking line or fucking around on the roof, I think we were at 40ish minutes if I'm watching the right one.
Think about that. Dead people on the ground. Signs of many more people inside due to the amount of parked cars in the parking lot, 20+ police and its 40 minutes before they actually begin an assault against 1 guy with a gun.
Now, if you're a 'silver lining' type of guy, strategically, that does say something about police willingness to engage in combat from a non superior position. So there is that.
However, from a citizen aspect, that is fucking abysmal and really makes you think.....if it takes that much time and no one is willing to sack up and do something about it....whats the point?
Everybody wants to be a gangster until its time to do gangster shit.
I've been part of successful operations against 'unknown numbers of combatants' with 6 fucking people. 20+ cops hanging around outside while people could be executed is fucking pathetic.
He is one of those "First amendment auditors" who tries to provoke police and others into doing something stupid on camera. He also seems to be some form of autist based on his bizarre reactions and comments at times.Ok watching the "livestream" after the fact and have to ask:
What kind of low life a-hole films people laying on the ground and doesn't lift a finger to help. I see somebody down, that phone is one the ground and I am first aid/dragging someone to safety. How many bled out while these tards stand around filming. Filming/streaming--tells someone else to call 911. A-HOLE AND THEIR PHONES!!!
TF is wrong with people.
Yeah I saw some of that. "I am a journalist, I'm not leaving"He is one of those "First amendment auditors" who tries to provoke police and others into doing something stupid on camera. He also seems to be some form of autist based on his bizarre reactions and comments at times.
He allegedly lives near that store and was shopping shortly before the incident happened so was in the right (or wrong) place at the right time.
Better to be taken alive to rot in prison then be sent to Heaven don't you think?I fail to understand how and why, repeatedly in these situations, the perp is "Taken alive".
Coriolis Effectdivert attention from the bad wind call.
Sure it wasn't the Eötvös effect?Coriolis Effect
At least take a shot to remove a nut or two.Better to be taken alive to rot in prison then be sent to Heaven don't you think?
I just watched the whole 'stream' again. From the time the stream started (no idea how long after shooting had started) to the time there was an form on actual entry, instead of standing around in a fucking line or fucking around on the roof, I think we were at 40ish minutes if I'm watching the right one.
Think about that. Dead people on the ground. Signs of many more people inside due to the amount of parked cars in the parking lot, 20+ police and its 40 minutes before they actually begin an assault against 1 guy with a gun.
Now, if you're a 'silver lining' type of guy, strategically, that does say something about police willingness to engage in combat from a non superior position. So there is that.
However, from a citizen aspect, that is fucking abysmal and really makes you think.....if it takes that much time and no one is willing to sack up and do something about it....whats the point?
Everybody wants to be a gangster until its time to do gangster shit.
I've been part of successful operations against 'unknown numbers of combatants' with 6 fucking people. 20+ cops hanging around outside while people could be executed is fucking pathetic.
Alot of these people filming these stand there because they are looking at there phone and detached from reality just enough for fear and common sence to pass by them. It doesnt make sence but to them at that moment its like watching a video on the internet.Yeah, and we have a right to "Free, fair and un-fettered elections" too, right ?
Never the less, I think that the other poster's point is, is that if you're LEO in a case like this, you really don't want your six exposed to people you don't know/trust your life to. Yes, to shut them down/move them might be "violating their civil rights". But me, as simply a citizen, I'd move the fuck out of their way. No video is worth an errant bullet. Once your chest cavity has been violated, blame, right or wrong, doesn't buy you much.
Thats what I keep telling the local morons. If they call 911 for something potentially serious the cops are going to stage. If there is a known shooter and injured cops, they are likely to stage. If SWAT gets called up, the first responding units are going to stage.I just watched the whole 'stream' again. From the time the stream started (no idea how long after shooting had started) to the time there was an form on actual entry, instead of standing around in a fucking line or fucking around on the roof, I think we were at 40ish minutes if I'm watching the right one.
Think about that. Dead people on the ground. Signs of many more people inside due to the amount of parked cars in the parking lot, 20+ police and its 40 minutes before they actually begin an assault against 1 guy with a gun.
Now, if you're a 'silver lining' type of guy, strategically, that does say something about police willingness to engage in combat from a non superior position. So there is that.
However, from a citizen aspect, that is fucking abysmal and really makes you think.....if it takes that much time and no one is willing to sack up and do something about it....whats the point?
Everybody wants to be a gangster until its time to do gangster shit.
I've been part of successful operations against 'unknown numbers of combatants' with 6 fucking people. 20+ cops hanging around outside while people could be executed is fucking pathetic.
Alot of these people filming these stand there because they are looking at there phone and detached from reality just enough for fear and common sence to pass by them. It doesnt make sence but to them at that moment its like watching a video on the internet.
I know this is morbid as fuck but when I see events like this, I feel like a genius for stocking up on SR25 pattern mags in October - because everytime this happens the most left members of the Democratic Party immediately want to exploit it to push gun controlLeftists will be swarming on this like flies to shit. "White male in his 30s, tactical vest..." Fuck...
Normalcy bias.Alot of these people filming these stand there because they are looking at there phone and detached from reality just enough for fear and common sence to pass by them. It doesnt make sence but to them at that moment its like watching a video on the internet.
It’s the job of an armed professional to, at times, do a more or less blind dynamic entry and hope for the best. It is known to be an inherently unsafe profession after all and sometimes getting the job done may require dialing that assumed risk up substantially.I missed that then. So ok, at least theres that.
The goat rope show however is worse for many reasons as command is obviously involved and too worried about bullshit things like feelings and 'optics'.
I know this is morbid as fuck but when I see events like this, I feel like a genius for stocking up on SR25 pattern mags in October - because everytime this happens the most left members of the Democratic Party immediately want to exploit it to push gun control
It is not morbid at all to feel an instinctive sense of self preservation and concern for the future of the gun community when there is more than ample evidence that the enemies of the RKBA are more than willing to use conspiracy and sabotage to destroy the 2nd Amendment. The Las Vegas and the baseball game shootings were all I needed to see what the leftists are willing to do to achieve wide scale disarmament. If one were to get a whole bunch of ANTIFA/BLM into a dimly lit and abandoned warehouse and then ask them if any of them are willing to sacrifice themselves for their cause to become a sleeper agent and launch a false flag attack where there is a 90% chance that they, themselves will never see the fruits of their sacrifice, I BET that many of these mooks would gladly volunteer themselves.
Several postings back, 10 dead was already posted.10 dead, you guys suck at keeping up with news. Guess I'll go watch CNN for updates.
the scary part is that very little would leak outside local news if it didn't fit the narrative the left wants to push.
there are many stories like this but they are not covered nationally unless the perp fits a certain type.
Could be fear, fame or no survival instinct. Not ruling out that it was his job to stand there either will need time to find out.When I saw that it makes you think its fake because why would they be standing there taking video if the active shooter is just inside the building.
Well this proves gun control doesn’t work, criminals don’t care.
If gun control worked this would be impossible.
It also shows the police ain’t going to be your savior.
Seems like a testimony for CCWs more than anything.
Sorry for the victims.
My rights still are the same.
IMO the jury is still out on that. People need to ask about the older tall gent in the tan coat who was walked out at the same time as the suspect.Nobody in the store shot the attacker?
Wow
Hope he doesn't trip or there's no stairs involved! MacBiden has been informed and is following closely...
Sometimes, you've got to "cut the loses" and save taxpayer money. Just say'n. MacBetter to be taken alive to rot in prison then be sent to Heaven don't you think?
The Chief reported it was a "Patrol Rifle". So, yeah, there's that. MacFox reporting 10 killed witness reported shooter had AR-15 style weapon.
Shit. Austin's former police chief Art Acevedo and many cops refer to magazines as 'clips' and don't know or care any more about guns other than cops should be the only ones to own them to change.The BPD Chief said the shooter had a "Patrol Rifle." I wonder what that is? Maybe she just doesn't know anything about rifles but I would think a person in that kind of position would know a bit more than that as to identifying weapons.
I hope it wasn't the fallen LEO's Patrol Rifle but doubt we will ever know.