10/22 vs bolt opinions needed

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#1
I've got a 10/22T that is bone stock right now. From what I've gathered, it's shooting about as good as expected for not having any mods done to it. So here is my dilemma:

Send it to here: http://www.ct-precision.com/
and have the full tune up, taper crown, and have the barrel threaded to the action. Cost on this looks to be about $245, plus shipping, and maybe $65 for blueing after the taper crown. And, if I do this, should I consider upgrading the barrel at the same time?

Or, leave the 10/22T as it is, and get a bolt 22lr for precision practice?

I'm torn because I don't really need 2 heavy barrel 22 rifles. And I just have a hard time selling a rifle. But I could probably sell the 10/22T and come close to funding a plain 10/22 and a heavy barrel bolt action. But it seems like I could get a decent bolt 22 that is a good shooter for the approx $300 upgrades to my 10/22T.

The last option is to just leave the 10/22T alone and use it as it is. I suppose that knowing it's limitations in group sizes still allows me to work on fundamentals. As long as I'm always shooting to the limit of the rifle/ammo combination, I'm doing OK. If my groups grow or are inconsistant, I know I'm doing something wrong.

Thanks.
 
#3
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The 10/22T is good enough as is to leave alone. It will outshoot most owners. Even a PlainJane 10/22 can be fixed up with simple barrel/stock kits (like Butler Creek) cheaply enough that little else is needed. If I went further, it would simply be to add Volquartsen trigger internals.

The only reason I would go to a bolt gun (and it's a very good reason), would be to reduce ammo consumption. It's like a kid in a candy factory, you can't help yourself. These days, you NEED to help yourself, ammo's not plentiful. Yesterday I did some .22 testing/sighting/practice, with an accurized 10/22 and a Mossberg 144 .22 bolt gun. I got it all done, re-sighting two guns in at 50yd, with about 30rd. It was a huge exercise in self restraint, keeping it down to 30rd, and about 10 of those rounds were actually 'fun' rounds out of the 10/22...

I know...; I'm only human...

Greg
 
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The better question would be, do you feel like you are getting good practice with the 10/22? I look at a 10/22 as a good tool for practice for an AR. You just pull the trigger whereas the bolt gun 22 trainer can be used to simulate the same training situations with your centerfire rifle. If the 10/22T you have shoots .5" groups or less at 50yds off a bipod then leave it alone, don't send it to randy to have a bunch of work done because you are going to spend 300 dollars and not get any more performance out of it. So, if you want to practice for a bolt-gun I say get a sako quad or something for 450 dollars and sell the T and off you go!
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Isaac
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooter65</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.coolguyguns.com/

Semi all the way. Spend the money on a super accurate 10/22.
You will have no regrets.

Bolt actions are like 308's. pre historic. </div></div>

Can I assume you mean the full barrelled action from that link? I suppose if I sell the one I have now, that option isn't much more out of pocket than having mine upgraded?
 
#8
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I have a 22 kit for practice with my AR. I bought the 10/22T probably 10 years ago - long before I had any ideas of getting into long distance or even of shooting it regularly. At the time I needed something to take care of rodents (racoon, skunk, groundhog) around the house. It has not been used hard.

Even though I don't have to run the bolt, it still gives me good practice on position, breathing, trigger squeeze, follow through and all of the basics.

I guess the $300 upgrades could buy a lot of trigger time if I just leave it stock, too.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MontanaMarine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only thing I don't really like about my 10/22 is that I have to clean it through the muzzle. (Even though I rarely clean it). </div></div>

1+ on that issue. Also the reason why I don't clean it too often.
 
#11
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Or just buy a Volquartsen.
https://www.volquartsen.com/


Or Clark
http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/index.htm


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sled</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shooter65</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.coolguyguns.com/

Semi all the way. Spend the money on a super accurate 10/22.
You will have no regrets.

Bolt actions are like 308's. pre historic. </div></div>

Can I assume you mean the full barrelled action from that link? I suppose if I sell the one I have now, that option isn't much more out of pocket than having mine upgraded? </div></div>
 
#13
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I'v seen several 10/22's with the hole drilled in the back of the receiver for a cleaning rod.



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MontanaMarine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only thing I don't really like about my 10/22 is that I have to clean it through the muzzle. (Even though I rarely clean it). </div></div>
 
#14
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sled</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've got a 10/22T that is bone stock right now. From what I've gathered, it's shooting about as good as expected for not having any mods done to it. So here is my dilemma:

Send it to here: http://www.ct-precision.com/
and have the full tune up, taper crown, and have the barrel threaded to the action. Cost on this looks to be about $245, plus shipping, and maybe $65 for blueing after the taper crown. And, if I do this, should I consider upgrading the barrel at the same time?

Or, leave the 10/22T as it is, and get a bolt 22lr for precision practice?

I'm torn because I don't really need 2 heavy barrel 22 rifles. And I just have a hard time selling a rifle. But I could probably sell the 10/22T and come close to funding a plain 10/22 and a heavy barrel bolt action. But it seems like I could get a decent bolt 22 that is a good shooter for the approx $300 upgrades to my 10/22T.

The last option is to just leave the 10/22T alone and use it as it is. I suppose that knowing it's limitations in group sizes still allows me to work on fundamentals. As long as I'm always shooting to the limit of the rifle/ammo combination, I'm doing OK. If my groups grow or are inconsistant, I know I'm doing something wrong.

Thanks.
</div></div>

sled,

As you know the 10/22T is sort of a "better" 10/22 but not a lot better. Randy at CPC is one of the best 10/22 gunsmiths around. If you want your 10/22T to shoot as well as possible using all stock parts Randy is the man to send it to. His $300 tune-ups are a great way to go as long as you are going to limit yourself to using only the stock Ruger supplied component parts. Randy will also thread your receiver and barrel for only $45 more which solves a multitude of the 10/22's design flaws. This IMO is the best way to go for a stock 10/22T because the work Randy does is not just about the major improvement in accuracy from setting back the barrel and screwing the barrel to the receiver it's also the way the 10/22 will operate once Randy does his magic.

The real value in the full Randy tune up is the new found repeatability you will get out of your new and improved 10/22 and the ability to reliably dial your scope and have the gun's POI move exactly as expected. If you are considering installing a barrel upgrade do it before sending your 10/22T to Randy. You can only get so much out of the stock 10/22T barrel and for a small additional cost you can have the same work done using a better barrel with slightly better results.

HTH!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sled</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The last option is to just leave the 10/22T alone and use it as it is. I suppose that knowing it's limitations in group sizes still allows me to work on fundamentals. As long as I'm always shooting to the limit of the rifle/ammo combination, I'm doing OK. If my groups grow or are inconsistant, I know I'm doing something wrong.</div></div>

sled,

This is 100% correct but the information and experience has more value if the gun could be more consistent. More repeatable moves more of the missed shots into the category of "what did I do wrong" vs. "was it me or the gun?" Your practice will have a higher correlation to your training target results if the gun is a more known quantity.

Cheers/Chip
 
#18
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Thanks for all the feedback! I'm still soaking in the advice and reading most of the other threads in here and a bunch on RFC.

Since it's shooting season, I'll probably shoot it the way it is for the summer and consider having it sent out during the winter when I'm not shooting as much. I just want to have my plan ready by then so that I don't spend the winter trying to decide what to do.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sled</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for all the feedback! I'm still soaking in the advice and reading most of the other threads in here and a bunch on RFC.

Since it's shooting season, I'll probably shoot it the way it is for the summer and consider having it sent out during the winter when I'm not shooting as much. I just want to have my plan ready by then so that I don't spend the winter trying to decide what to do. </div></div>

Hey sled,

where are you located? If you are in southern California you should meet up with some of us out at ASR. We'll let you play with our guns and see just what you can achieve with the lowly 10/22!

Cheers/Chip
 
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YAOG,

I appreciate the offer, but I'm in New York. It's a bit of a drive for me! However, if I get out that way on business, I'll keep it in mind.

Thanks.

ETA - no, you didn't miss my location before. I just realized it wasn't there and added it to my profile.
 
#21
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That the ticket for a quick fix .. All that you need to do is just drill a hole in the back of the Receiver 'in-line with the chamber opening and Bore. Then just Rod it from the breach end when needed. Takes about 15-minutes to accomplish this. Pretty EASY to do .
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After you do up a dozen 10/22 builds for yourself they will grow on you and are kind of like an AR in the same respect as, ( if you done one, You done them all ) They are an accurate .22 platform for sure.

You can have best of both worlds with your accuracy built 10/22 semi, with putting a internal bolt-lock lever inside the TG. Just lock it up with a flip on the lower side of your TG and it is a single shot. It is pretty badass also with suppressor use. Only drawback is that you can Not use the High output .22 but need to stay with Sub-match and standard Vel.
OK, That JG boltlock "TEASER" page has been floating around the internet for a few years and they in reality only put out very few numbers of them for use. They have No Desire to Continue making & marketing them for future sales . So put that dream out of your head and move on.

BUT, The internal TG Bolt-lock is pretty cool and I have been using one for a couple years and It Really Spoils you with your 10/22 custom and doing the single precision shot without having it cycle one and going Hot for the next round .
I know that if you are looking & wanting for a 10/22 Bolt-Lock system. Pretty quick that ( Rimfire Technologies) 'Greg is owner' .<span style="font-weight: bold"> & these are ( of his own design )</span>.
The guy does nice work and takes pride in what he does too with rimfire. He Is doing-up internal TG boltlock plates They Laser cut & are Rockwell Rc finished hardened so they are going to be tough. He is testing some samples that are finished right now. So I would be keeping an eye-out for them to be on the market, soon this year .
You should E-mail him and put the pressure on his ass to get the testing done and get them on his web-site & out the door . & 10/22 with a reliable internal bolt-lock is just the icing on the cake .
.
 
#22
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I second coolguysguns, Tony's stuff is top notch and hands down has the best trigger for a 10/22 out there. I went with the kidd barrell, bolt, trigger and could not be happier with the quality or the customer service,
rs

 
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