1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

[Tyler Kemp]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Might not be accurate to the inherent sloppiness of shotguns, BUT, brass casings that were thicker (think RMC) could be done with much hotter loads depending on the action. If the shooter was ok with single feeding you could seat saboted bullets way beyond case length giving a ton of powder capacity.

The question is still...why?

 

[old95b10]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Well that sucks!
Would like to beat Him with a smaller shotgun.
But hell who shoots shotguns at this range?
Oh yeah we do.
I aint gonna build something to mess with the big guy ( building a.50bmg bolt gun now ) Funds are short!!!

 

[Intrepid4576]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

where did you obtain these rounds? Do you have a link or phone number of where I could order some?

Thanks

 

[Rude Robert]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Hi, I like Old's attitude. Because it was plain fun to try. I have the same idea but with my 06. It about having fun

 

[dwtaylorpdx]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

I think the trick would be a lighter finned sabot.
Kind of like a anti armor projectile.

While your at it make it a tracer. Would be highly entertaining.

NO point other than the fun of it... And thats good enough for me...

Dave

 

[10ringping]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Id pay to see it. But I have seen a Benelli M4 ring steel repeatedly at 350yrds.

 

[Platypus]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

This is certainly not an exercise in practical shooting but rather because you just gotta try stuff like this. Hell if it was practical why are there people shooting .22 LR at some distances considered to be ridiculous. If we were practical with stuff who would have ever tried to throw rocks across the pond and hit old Coke bottles, or hitting your buddy with your sling shot standing in opposite ends of the football field. Only caution here is that if the range session starts with "hold my beer and watch this shit" you might want to rethink the range exercise. Have fun and as I was told from a very young age "you won't know unless you put it down range".
Keep us informed on how you get this done.

 

[excaliber]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

So far, he has hit at 633yds, also, he missed but he threw dirt on an 8in plate at 750yds several times. It took about 2 days for the slug to get there. Fun but the slugs we shot are about $4.50 a piece.

 

[bassani]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

shit..thats an expensive hobby

 

[old95b10]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

The Big Guy has Bank like that!!!!
Only reason he didnt use $9 shells was he could not find any!!
He dont even shoot STOCK air soft guns, has to hot rod them!!!!
OK I'am done messing with him! ( Sorry Big Guy ).
Just kidding.

 

[Savage 212]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

I happen to be the owner of the Savage 212, and the trigger man behind the 633y, and as unbelievable as it may sound it happened not because im out to prove anything, just for fun and awsome to talk about.

 

[excaliber]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Hey, you shouldn`t brag. Good thing I taught you how to shoot!

 

[Savage 212]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Thats a fact, I owe all my skills to " The Gun Whisperer" Rob Vestal

 

[Savage 212]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Thats ok Eric, I do owe you so a little teasing never hurts. Heck your my witness so I can't fuss at you lol

 

[zuke]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Sound's like a good(and educational)time was had by all.
And that's what matter's.

 

[old95b10]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Is this The BIG GUY? Has to be!
Dont nobody owe me anything! I said you could use it,and have not thought about since. Hell I forgot about it! Aint like I have to feed a scope rail.
But I aint worried about that! Glad I could help out a Buddy!
After seeing what you can do with a shotgun, I think I will stay out of the way when you start shooting the .338 Norma.
If you do some special shit with the new rifle I can say it is because of me and ride you like a mule for months to come!
Good shit anyway I go!

 

[Savage 212]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Thanks ole friend, I appreciate all you guys help. It should definately be a fun summer.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Dangit, you guys are gonna make me have to go out and buy a shotshell reloader...

Dang you, dang you all!!!

 

[DanSavage]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

There's nothing wrong at all with having a little fun doing thing's that aren't very popular, 1000 yard hits, don't let anybody tell you it can't be done. I'd fasten the steel plate tipped back at the top to accept a incoming round at about 45 degree's. or greater. Figure out the dope and have fun.
Dan

 

[DanSavage]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Greg, shotgun FT-R!

 

[Savage 212]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Well I now have my longrange gun finished and am about to get a good load worked up, but ill never forget the longrange slugging and who knows ill probably bring it along just for fun this summer anyway. Its just as fun to hit a steel plate at 633 with a twelve guage as it is to hit 2600 with a 338 norma, well maybe lol

 

[HathcockProtege]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Red Jacket Custom shop could probably whip you up something pretty sweet for this application. I am thinking a Mossberg 935 with a 100 MOA picatinny rail running the length of the rib?

Very interesting project!

I have never shot slugs beyond 100, but I'm curious to see how this goes. Please post video!

 

[old95b10]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

No Red jacket stuff here.
We like to shoot. And do so often.
They could mount a shotgun to a remington 700 scope rail and make some good TV.
Remember this was for shits and giggles till we friggin hit it!
Video may be the way!
Remember this was for FUN! No animals involved!
My longest hit on steel 1400 yards.
My longest deer kill about 75 yards!
Will look into the video to settle the stuff for the non believers.
Still a bunch of fun!

 

[HathcockProtege]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Meant that RJ comment totally tongue in cheek. I commend you for stepping outside the box with this project. I am not the least bit skeptical about the feasibility or fun factor of this project. Proceed full throttle and keep us posted!

 

[teamr2]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longslugger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I happen to be the owner of the Savage 212, and the trigger man behind the 633y, and as unbelievable as it may sound it happened not because im out to prove anything, just for fun and awsome to talk about. </div></div>

Good on you. Please post pics.

 

[LeviSS]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

This is crazy...but I love it.

 

[Col Kurtz]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

As crazy as this may seam. I remember reading in a Very High Power Magazine in 2000 about Skip Talbot and a friend shooting at "The Rock" at 2 miles, and thought Wow, who but Skip could have done such a feat. Well, I'm know where near a Skip Talbot, and never will be, but I am hopeing to soon be knocking on the 3,000 yard door. So if this is nothing more than some of us having fun, maybe, just maybe, it'll inspire someone else down the road to try something they though was imposible, and take shooting to a whole other level.

Just my $.02

 

[AustinR]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

My shoulder started hurting the instant I read the title of this thread.

I have a 20 ga break action slug gun. I'd think the higher pressure needed to push a slug out that far would have to be more than plastic, but I have no idea.

What kind of load are you testing to get 1000 yards?

 

[old95b10]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

It is still here!

 

[excaliber]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

I believe we are getting closer to making this happen. We first have to get a scope that has ALOT of adjustment. If anyone is willing to donate $, please feel free.

 

[opshin556]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

sounds like a lot of freakin fun to me.

A man who can do simple math, can hit something with anything. MP

 

[frankythefly]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Have you guys chronograph those loads? Have you weighed those projectiles? It almost look like API rds. Anyhow the BC should be between .65-.70. Also optic choices with lots of adjustment would be the sightron SIII straight power scopes have 150 moa internal adjustments and another choice would be the SWFA SS line of straight power scopes.

 

[redeye]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

You gotta get this on video. Sounds like a fun day at the range.

 

[Savage 212]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Well as much as it pained me, I left behind the ole sluggun today, and got down to some serious range, 2030yds with my Vestals Custom Gunsmithing 338 norma mag! Awesome day my friends.

 

[Ballistic Artist]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ch'e</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I didnt mean to be over the top rude but I am sure you understand my "why bother" on the 1k plus area.sheep are ok but Im more jealous that santa bought Wadutter a koala cock warmer for Xmas </div></div>



Actually the only thing I understand from what you have stated is that you are a jackass. You should never talk crap to someone for wanting to do something that seems impossible. Did I mention you're a jackass?

 

[junebug]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Man that it freaking AWESOME!!! Ya'll really oughta try a 20 gauge as there super accurate. Keep on smoking'em!!! And most of all keep having fun.

 

[Savage 212]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

You know, I through dirt on a small steel at 750, several times, with no more dope in my scope and even less of the 5 dollar slugs, but maybe with a custom 60 MOA base! Might just have to save up my pennies, or get Winchester to sponcer me lol!

 

[Savage 212]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Iv'e heard good things about the savage 220, but it would really have to be a nail driver to beat my 12g! Only advantage I could see is, lesser recoil; that being said, less recoil would help with long range accuracy, and consistancy!

 

[Savage 212]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Hmmm, a 60 MOA base, a bigger scope, a sponcer from Winchester, and a little luck; 1000 yards, here we come!

 

[5avage]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Sounds like a job for Red Jacket. LOL

 

[Savage 212]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Na, Redjacket would charge you more than the whole outfit then market it as their donation to the long range slug world lol! I can get one made a little cheaper than that route! EGW will do it and made my zero cant thats on it now, but they are a bit pricey, since it's a one off custom!

 

[rrt]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

Many years ago I wanted an M79. This is close as I got. Gunsmith thought I was an idiot wanting mauser sights on a $50 shotgun. Kicks like a mule with slugs.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

I probably won't be contracting Red Jacket for any of my builds, but I also won't be throwing any stones at them, either.

Diff'rent Strokes...

I figure a Savage 220, a Ken Farrell 30MOA base, a Tasco VAR624X42M with 75+MOA of adjustment. Could make for some interesting shots.

Might even try tearing down some 20ga Sabot loads and substituting heavier .458's with relatively higher BC's.

Greg

 

[Strykervet]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: excaliber</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I bet recoil is terrible with the 12Gauge from Hell. We have got to figure out a way to hit a 1000yds with a slug gun. Somebody has got to have an idea. </div></div>

I know that thread. That dude is my kind of guy.

I'm a pretty decent shot and I studied university level mathematical analysis. I dig shit like this, and I'd offer to do the math if I weren't so busy (and rusty, as much as I hate to admit).

But today, I think there are programs out there that you can enter the variables into and they'll spit out what you need. A six pack of beer and a few inquisitive questions at any university math or physics dept. will end with a shitload of data though, easier cheaper and faster than a program. Just a heads up.

Some guy came in asking for a free version of Maathematica, an online math program and UW ended up writing SAGE. I almost helped on that project but my classes got too deep.

FYI, NASA does shit more impressive than this all the time. The Curiosity Rover was equivalent of a "golf ball launched from LA and perched on top of the Great Pyramid --twice, once with the rocket and once with the lander"!!! They are doing the exact same thing just with different variables that yeild different results. Technically, you can launch that damn slug from your roof and send it to Mars too if you have the know how (and cash to get it off the ground, there is an equation for that too, cost vs. thrust). The difference between them and us is they actually do the math every time and we evoke a bit of art. Nothing wrong with that, I prefer "hard art" to "hard science" in some cases.

The 12ga. from hell is badass, that guy is sick. But there is a guy online that has consitently shot two 55gal. drums with a Savage .223 and a cheap scope --at 1mile. Long Range Shooting.com? I forget. So maybe the "Savage" on the stock really does do something...

Good luck, I'd love to see it, and I wish you the best at it.

 

[cwatson308]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

like the idea

 

[longrange223]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

like the idea but don't think the equipment is there to get it done...

 

[Jack17397]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

so you need custom hand loads to reach out at that distance? regular slugs work work?

 

[excaliber]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

We used Winchester Supreme slugs. We tried 300gr and 350gr slugs. Hitting 633yds was easy. 750yds was tougher as we maxed out the scope elevation and had to hold below bottom reticle. Threw dirt on 750yds a few times. The scope base has zero cant. We are going to go with custom 60moa base which should give us the needed cant to get to 1000yd target. It`s something different to do. Hitting 1000yds is so easy with rifle but with slug gun, it`s a different world.

 

[scythefwd]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=178655

700+gr slugs at 2900 fps..
For the long range shotgunning.

 

[Chingon]

Re: 1000yd Slug Gun (Shotgun)?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: excaliber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We have got to figure out a way to hit a 1000yds with a slug gun. Somebody has got to have an idea. </div></div>

203 sights come to mind. Or something adjustable where you could mount some sort of glass to. Aiming it might be a little weird since it would hang to one side. Just my two cents.