10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

Anarkism

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Im wanting a very <span style="font-weight: bold">accurate</span> 6.8 custom m4ish type (16") piston driven.

Im going to be putting a Trijicon ACOG ECOS on it. The one with the Doctor Red Dot Sight on top of it. And a thermal situation next year. Im debating on a Bushmaster Custom UIR (if 6.8) w/ 499 Piston upgrade.. Or a LWRC er POF variant.

Please tell me what you think the best choice would be. Accuracy is my first concern (sub MOA).. reliability second.

The primary purpose of this weapon will be hog control.. And second keeping me alive when civil anarchy erupts in this country (plan on getting a long slide Glock and primo bolt gun to(not just yet tho)).. On account of that creepy lookin pres of ours lol. I have recurring vivid dreams of a post apocalyptic war torn US with us surviving some what like we did in earlier colonial times with the Indians..
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTriever</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Ya, I'll have some beer with my popcorn with this one..... this might get ugly
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

Why do you think DI is better than piston? Could you possibly send me somewhere with accurate information (facts) about this. All I seem to find is contradicting info. Some say piston is better since the gun is cleaner thus more consistent break in.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anarkism</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.. Man H&K sure is proud of their uppers eh.. </div></div>

Can you buy one of those here in Cali???? I'm talking about the 416 upper, and will it work with a regular AR type lower? Just curious.

-Pat
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

If you're worried about anarchy, spend $1k on the rifle and $9k on ammo since you'll never find any 6.8 ammo if the SHTF.

Why not an AR10 in 308, plenty of ammo around and hell on hogs too.

Maybe an AR10, AR15 and two Glock 19's, then you could rule the world!!
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

I've yet to see a piston setup I like. Last I heard most people who adopted the 416 are shit-canning it because it doesn't stand to high round counts.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

Start at 68forums.com
I have a AR performance which I really like.
It has a Vltor MUR reciever and a pac nor 11 twist barrel with a DMR chamber
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Impact</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would go DI over piston if accuracy is your main criteria. </div></div>

You have got to be kidding me?!?! Where is this cave you live in?
MY LWRC REPR will smash any DI gun in the accuracy and reliability department.
You need to hop on google and get some research under your belt before you start making these claims.

I have a 10.5" HK 416 upper on a ROCK RIVER lower. It has never failed me yet and I;ve easily got 4000 rounds thru it. Plus it must be pretty damn reliable when the SEALs are running them pretty damn hard. I have a good family friend that is on Team 6, Dev Unit, (no, I'm not lying) he says they are the most reliable thing they have had in a long time.

I also run a 14.7" LWRC M6A3 with suppressor that is pretty damn accurate out to 300 yards. Never had an issue, except for when it we fresh out of the box it jammed once or twice. After about 3 mags it never has done it again. Now im 1500 rounds into it.

Gas Piston is the way to go.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anarkism</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about that Barrett REC7 ehh.. Nice; maybe thats the way to go. After seeing these posts and other info Im not to concerned about getting a piston. </div></div>

No barrett sucks beaner balls. Seriously if your uncle gave you 10k. WTF? you lucky bastard. get a dpms ar10, have krieger make you a barrel. stock and hanguards of your choice since you have 10k. Hensoldt 4x16 scope w/ pvs22 or some high tech night optic and suppresor of your choice. now spend the rest on ammo and your ready if SHTF. Now personally Id get a custom bolt gun if you dont already have one.
Just my .02$
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

Ya, piston drive accuracy sucks okay...

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A good barrel is a good barrel...
It's always the indian.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

no BARRETT and no DPMS. I had a DPMS for about a month. couldnt even shoot it because of the amount of jamming and gas tube problems.

Go with a POF or LWRC REPR. your going to like the availability of 308 ammo over the rare find of quality 6.8 ammo. You will be amazed at the accuracy you can squeeze out of the POF and LWRC.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And try the Elcan you can get the 1.5-6X with a 308 Reticle and put a trijicon on top... very cool.

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You have all the cool toys.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MSG Janoski</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Buy a $20.00 book by Dave Ramsey and get some smarts.</div></div>

I wouldn't take advice from a guy that went bankrupt multiple times, that guy is a hack. Call up a local accountant, they will help you out for a nominal fee.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

Wow, nice uncle.
How's your savings acct look? Maybe that's where you should stash the dough.
Ahh fuck that. The economy is going gangbusters right now, so spend away.

I have 3 lwrc's, including a REPR. I'm not too impressed with their accuracy, but I'm not too impresed with my accuracy either. The two 223's have been completely problem free through over 2k rds. No misfeeds or failures to fire. The REPR, on the other hand, was just shipped back for multiple probs- misfeeds, light primer strikes, and not grouping. (best groups were over 4"). I think it was a lemon- others seem to have been posting glowing reports.

Lowlight- i was pretty underwhelmed by the Elcan. I loved the reticle, the glass, the illumination, and the zoom mech, but I thought the mount sucked. The optic is held tight to the base with springs. You can rock the thing back and forth and up and down. While it might be gtg, I couldn't get comfy with a scope that moved around. I sold it.
 
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My buddy has a lwrc 6.8. He is a great shot with that thing. No prob ringing a 9x15 plate at 300 with an eotech (no mag). He drops pigs and deer by the dozen with that setup. I feel like it is more accurate than my 223's, although it could just be the expensive ammo he feeds it. I do think that it would be a shitty choice for the zombie attack though due to the relative rarity of the ammo.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: garandman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have an excellent opportunity to buy an M16 at prices lower than they've been for some time.

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you wont get into a full auto M16 at 10g....
Maybe JUST the lower, thats pushing it though.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

I would start here... http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1491473#Post1491473
Then I would worry about the AR. POF-308 is a lot of gun for the money in a gas piston set-up. I know people don't like them but a Robinson Arms XCR sure goes bang everytime I pull the trigger and they finally got the trigger right and fold into a nice compact size (they are now making a pistol that looks sweet as well or could be licensed as a SBR). Getting a full auto lower would not be a bad bet as they seem to continue to raise in value.

Pat
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYSHOOTER338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
you wont get into a full auto M16 at 10g....
Maybe JUST the lower, thats pushing it though. </div></div>

I know of a deal for a lower that just closed for about $9K. Friend of mine bought it.

$1000 will get you a REALLY nice upper.

Another deal for $9K closed a few months ago.

They are out there.

Once again, my sig line proven true.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYSHOOTER338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">no BARRETT and no DPMS. I had a DPMS for about a month. couldnt even shoot it because of the amount of jamming and gas tube problems.

Go with a POF or LWRC REPR. your going to like the availability of 308 ammo over the rare find of quality 6.8 ammo. You will be amazed at the accuracy you can squeeze out of the POF and LWRC. </div></div>


I got a DPMS that is 1/2 MoA. LR-308. Completely reliable.



 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: garandman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You have an excellent opportunity to buy an M16 at prices lower than they've been for some time.

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Im not a fan of full auto. Well maybe in a open field with no cover and hoards of zombies after me maybe (or hogs). Im more of a optimum shot placement kind of person. right below the nose or in the nose of most animals. a bullet bouncing around in your skull or blowing the back of your head out seems to always work like gang busters.
 
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Actually, I think this, chambered in 45ACP, may be more practical for hogs, and other applications not requiring LR precision. Although now out of production, a lot were made, and something should be available somewhere, with current prices going around $450-$500 in near-new shape. No gas system issues, either. You can buy a <span style="font-style: italic">lot</span> of 45ACP fodder for $9500.00, I'd surmise.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: garandman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYSHOOTER338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
you wont get into a full auto M16 at 10g....
Maybe JUST the lower, thats pushing it though. </div></div>

I know of a deal for a lower that just closed for about $9K. Friend of mine bought it.

$1000 will get you a REALLY nice upper.

Another deal for $9K closed a few months ago.

They are out there.

Once again, my sig line proven true.




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Then prove me wrong. Show me the info or dealer he bought from in which "your buddy" found a FA lower for that price cause I want to talk to the guy who is selling them. I want one for that price.

I've had two DPMS AR10's and not one of them was reliable. I sent them into smiths to have new barrels fitted and gas systems tuned. They wouldn't feed nor extract. If your having better luck then I did, more power to you. I find that the gas piston systems shoot cleaner, more reliably and obviously as Frank proved in his videos, they are very accurate. Ive done plenty of comparisons and I know that the new technology of GP systems is the way to go, if you want the reliability. How many GP rifles have you compared to the DPMS in person? Im not knocking DPMS but I'm not going to waste my money on them.

If you want to flip a coin go DI....
You want shot for shot reliability and best accuracy, go for a GP system.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

When it comes to AR platforms, you're not going to go wrong with a POF or LWRC. They're both excellent, but you're paying a pretty penny for that. Do I consider LWRC better than my RRA? Yes. Do I consider it $800 better than my RRA? Eh, not really.

If you want to hunt hog, get a hog hunting gun. You'll still have a stack of cash for whatever pet project you want to do. The ideal hog gun probably won't cost you too much, and that isn't necessarily the gun you want for the SHTF scenario. And while we're on that subject, you should buy a lot of tin foil.

If I had $10k, I'd get a custom AR-10 built with an 18-20" barrel. I'd put some really nice glass and get a silencer for it. That puts you about 7K into the gun (3k for the rifle, 2.5K for glass, 1.5k for the can) and now you've got 3k for ammo. That will kill any hog alive, quietly, and still fits your SHTF scenario.
 
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+1 on suppressed ar10, much better ammo availabilty and just all around better than 6.8 parts are much more available. then get you a set of pvs 14's and an eotech and your a hog killing machine,
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

Seem it maybe the bushmaster UIR. They guarantee sub moa out to 300yds. And I put a bushmaster upper on a colt lower 8 years ago to go from a 20" to a 16" and saw virtually no drop in moa.. err I mean increase lol. And BM has been around awhile too.

And I called LWRCi and talked to a guy that told me all their m6a* rifles shoot 1 to 2 MOA at 100 yds. yuk, better equip a bayonet with that incase of hog CQC.

Im calling pof-usa.
 
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<span style="font-weight: bold">10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.</span>

Holy Crap ! I got a 50 dollar gift certificate to the Outback Steak House from my Uncle and that was after I spent the day installing his new Jennair Range top .

Best advice I can give you is to take 2K and buy a decent AR and put the rest in some sort of investment . Maybe an IRA or College fund of some sort .

Wish I had these kinds of problems
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pof-usa.. called; got no response. And got the mail box is full message. Not sure if they got one guy working there or they are out for the holidays. Dont really care just that gives me a bad vibe from them (plus their website looks like shit..). So Im not to sure about them.. or him.

Im starting to think pof and LWRC are polished turds for someone that wants a fancy SWATish looking gun rather then a accurate reliable one IDK.. maybe not. Anyone else get that kind of sense from them? Hell check the SOCOM/Seal looking guy hiding in the water on LWRC's front page. He hasnt missed any meals recently eh? Maybe he's just a fan that likes to aqua hunt idk.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anarkism</div><div class="ubbcode-body">pof-usa.. called; got no response. And got the mail box is full message. Not sure if they got one guy working there or they are out for the holidays. Dont really care just that gives me a bad vibe from them (plus their website looks like shit..). So Im not to sure about them.. or him.

Im starting to think pof and LWRC are polished turds for someone that wants a fancy SWATish looking gun rather then a accurate reliable one IDK.. maybe not. Anyone else get that kind of sense from them? Hell check the SOCOM/Seal looking guy hiding in the water on LWRC's front page. He hasnt missed any meals recently eh? Maybe he's just a fan that likes to aqua hunt idk. </div></div>

This is problem with the internet... and an instant gratification society.

7 posts, money from less than a week ago, and he's slagging on companies he knows nothing about, in the middle of the two biggest holiday weekends in the country, where people actually 'do" take the time off.

But, it's his money, he can spend it where he wants based on whatever he likes.

If you wait around for a week, Scott Milkovich works sales for POF and is a pretty active member here, you can ask him directly.

I doubt you'll be happy with the response from the companies for either though, ordering from them is usually a 9+ month process at best because of the back orders, you are better off finding someone with something you like in stock. None of the high end stock is an overnight turnaround, again unless you find a dealer with one. One off sales aren't really that exciting and with SHOT show in less than a month they have better things to do than answer a single persons questions.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anarkism</div><div class="ubbcode-body">pof-usa.. called; got no response. And got the mail box is full message. Not sure if they got one guy working there or they are out for the holidays. Dont really care just that gives me a bad vibe from them (plus their website looks like shit..). So Im not to sure about them.. or him.

Im starting to think pof and LWRC are polished turds for someone that wants a fancy SWATish looking gun rather then a accurate reliable one IDK.. maybe not. Anyone else get that kind of sense from them? Hell check the SOCOM/Seal looking guy hiding in the water on LWRC's front page. He hasnt missed any meals recently eh? Maybe he's just a fan that likes to aqua hunt idk. </div></div>

I dont know how many times I have to express that the LWRC REPR is an underestimated platform, probably has to do with the fact that not a lot of them are out there yet. When I get home Ill post the 100, 300, and 600 yard groups from it. Plus the dead coyote I shot at 600 yards thru the neck.

Just because POF cant answer the phone and their website isnt flashy and tacticool doesnt mean they are a bad company. Watch Franks video, he is showing time and time again they are accurate with a 6x scope.

If you want a hog gun and are to scared to pull the trigger on getting a big boys rifle then go get yourself a Marlin lever gun in 45/70 gov and you can lay hogs out with it all day long. You might could also look into the LaRue OSR or whatever he has named it for this week. If your basing your conclusions of a rifle platform on what a website and one missed phone call is then you need to get out of the precision rifle game. Ive had nothing but excellent service from LWRC. I asked them to cut a barrel down for me an install a permanent suppressor mount. they did it, for FREE because it was one of their rifles. All I did was pay shipping.


You asked for our opinions and then stomp the idea out as we deliver them. I wouldnt argue my point this hard if I didnt believe in the product this much.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYSHOOTER338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anarkism</div><div class="ubbcode-body">pof-usa.. called; got no response. And got the mail box is full message. Not sure if they got one guy working there or they are out for the holidays. Dont really care just that gives me a bad vibe from them (plus their website looks like shit..). So Im not to sure about them.. or him.

Im starting to think pof and LWRC are polished turds for someone that wants a fancy SWATish looking gun rather then a accurate reliable one IDK.. maybe not. Anyone else get that kind of sense from them? Hell check the SOCOM/Seal looking guy hiding in the water on LWRC's front page. He hasnt missed any meals recently eh? Maybe he's just a fan that likes to aqua hunt idk. </div></div>

I dont know how many times I have to express that the LWRC REPR is an underestimated platform, probably has to do with the fact that not a lot of them are out there yet. When I get home Ill post the 100, 300, and 600 yard groups from it. Plus the dead coyote I shot at 600 yards thru the neck.

Just because POF cant answer the phone and their website isnt flashy and tacticool doesnt mean they are a bad company. Watch Franks video, he is showing time and time again they are accurate with a 6x scope.

If you want a hog gun and are to scared to pull the trigger on getting a big boys rifle then go get yourself a Marlin lever gun in 45/70 gov and you can lay hogs out with it all day long. You might could also look into the LaRue OSR or whatever he has named it for this week. If your basing your conclusions of a rifle platform on what a website and one missed phone call is then you need to get out of the precision rifle game. Ive had nothing but excellent service from LWRC. I asked them to cut a barrel down for me an install a permanent suppressor mount. they did it, for FREE because it was one of their rifles. All I did was pay shipping.


You asked for our opinions and then stomp the idea out as we deliver them. I wouldnt argue my point this hard if I didnt believe in the product this much. </div></div>

heir <span style="font-weight: bold">m6a*</span> rifles shoot 1 to 2 MOA at 100 yds. I didnt ask about that rifle.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anarkism</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Im starting to think pof and LWRC are polished turds for someone that wants a fancy SWATish looking gun rather then a accurate reliable one IDK.. maybe not. Anyone else get that kind of sense from them? Hell check the SOCOM/Seal looking guy hiding in the water on LWRC's front page. He hasnt missed any meals recently eh? Maybe he's just a fan that likes to aqua hunt idk. </div></div>

For someone who replies "IDK" more than once in a thread in which he started where he is asking advice then try to bash someone that you know nothing about...you have got to be the biggest idiot of them all.

Also FYI it matters not one bit on which rifle you have when anarchy erupts as you call it when the person with rifle is as clueless as you appear to be. Notice I said appear cause you could be just acting like an idiot instead of truly being one.

Thanks
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYSHOOTER338</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Anarkism said:
You asked for our opinions and then stomp the idea out as we deliver them. I wouldnt argue my point this hard if I didnt believe in the product this much. </div></div>

Im not just stating my first impression of them. I dont know nor did I claim they sucked. The thought crossed my mind on impression only. It takes alot of factual evidence to convince me of anything.. ALOT. I waited a almost a year for my Tango 51. But he put his MOA guarantee in writing.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Later</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anarkism</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Im starting to think pof and LWRC are polished turds for someone that wants a fancy SWATish looking gun rather then a accurate reliable one IDK.. maybe not. Anyone else get that kind of sense from them? Hell check the SOCOM/Seal looking guy hiding in the water on LWRC's front page. He hasnt missed any meals recently eh? Maybe he's just a fan that likes to aqua hunt idk. </div></div>

For someone who replies "IDK" more than once in a thread in which he started where he is asking advice then try to bash someone that you know nothing about...you have got to be the biggest idiot of them all.

Also FYI it matters not one bit on which rifle you have when anarchy erupts as you call it when the person with rifle is as clueless as you appear to be. Notice I said appear cause you could be just acting like an idiot instead of truly being one.

Thanks

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HAHA. OWNED!!!
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Later</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anarkism</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Im starting to think pof and LWRC are polished turds for someone that wants a fancy SWATish looking gun rather then a accurate reliable one IDK.. maybe not. Anyone else get that kind of sense from them? Hell check the SOCOM/Seal looking guy hiding in the water on LWRC's front page. He hasnt missed any meals recently eh? Maybe he's just a fan that likes to aqua hunt idk. </div></div>

For someone who replies "IDK" more than once in a thread in which he started where he is asking advice then try to bash someone that you know nothing about...you have got to be the biggest idiot of them all.

Also FYI it matters not one bit on which rifle you have when anarchy erupts as you call it when the person with rifle is as clueless as you appear to be. Notice I said appear cause you could be just acting like an idiot instead of truly being one.

Thanks

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Always amazes me the number of people that jump at the chance to FLAME and call names like a child When someone just makes open minded statment. Hope that gave you the self confidence you were looking for today.
 
Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anarkism</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Later</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Anarkism</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Im starting to think pof and LWRC are polished turds for someone that wants a fancy SWATish looking gun rather then a accurate reliable one IDK.. maybe not. Anyone else get that kind of sense from them? Hell check the SOCOM/Seal looking guy hiding in the water on LWRC's front page. He hasnt missed any meals recently eh? Maybe he's just a fan that likes to aqua hunt idk. </div></div>

For someone who replies "IDK" more than once in a thread in which he started where he is asking advice then try to bash someone that you know nothing about...you have got to be the biggest idiot of them all.

Also FYI it matters not one bit on which rifle you have when anarchy erupts as you call it when the person with rifle is as clueless as you appear to be. Notice I said appear cause you could be just acting like an idiot instead of truly being one.

Thanks

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Always amazes me the number of people that jump at the chance to FLAME and call names like a child When someone just makes open minded statment. Hope that gave you the self confidence you were looking for today. </div></div>

It gave me the same amount of confidence that you talking about LWRC website photo huh...

Also just FWIW I have factual data that backs up my assumption. Do you??

First fact--You looking for "anarchy" rifle hahaha...you might want to choose a caliber that you will be able to just pick up magazines of ammo and run it wouldn't you!!! So during anarchy you are going to be scouring around looking for your specialty ammo right??

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Re: 10K from my unk this Xmas; need smart advice.

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Im starting to think pof and LWRC are polished turds for someone that wants a fancy SWATish looking gun rather then a accurate reliable one IDK.. maybe not. Anyone else get that kind of sense from them? Hell check the SOCOM/Seal looking guy hiding in the water on LWRC's front page. He hasnt missed any meals recently eh? Maybe he's just a fan that likes to aqua hunt idk. </div></div>

For someone who replies "IDK" more than once in a thread in which he started where he is asking advice then try to bash someone that you know nothing about...you have got to be the biggest idiot of them all.

Also FYI it matters not one bit on which rifle you have when anarchy erupts as you call it when the person with rifle is as clueless as you appear to be. Notice I said appear cause you could be just acting like an idiot instead of truly being one.

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Always amazes me the number of people that jump at the chance to FLAME and call names like a child When someone just makes open minded statment. Hope that gave you the self confidence you were looking for today. </div></div>

It gave me the same amount of confidence that you talking about LWRC website photo huh...

Also just FWIW I have factual data that backs up my assumption. Do you??

First fact--You looking for "anarchy" rifle hahaha...you might want to choose a caliber that you will be able to just pick up magazines of ammo and run it wouldn't you!!! So during anarchy you are going to be scouring around looking for your specialty ammo right??

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Thats why Im probably going to go with the BM UIR in .223.

**one of the reasons. You own a LWRC and/or work for them and are over weight? That you in the photo?

I pick on fat asses because I was a fat ass (310+ 40" waist) And went down to 235 30" waist. I have a right to pock at the fat ones I was one and I know they dont have to be that way.

Lets leave the flaming because of insecurity's to the mouth breather shall we.