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Rifle Scopes 10X for 1000 yards
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Re: 10X for 1000 yards
For F class 10x is a bit under powered. However for field use 10x is ample plenty.
For F class 10x is a bit under powered. However for field use 10x is ample plenty.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
10x fixed:
Low cost-- Super Sniper
Medium cost-- USO ST10 (with parallax adjustment)
Higher cost-- S&B 10x
There may be others-but this is what I'm familiar with.
I bet you are going to want higher magnification past 600Y. You'll probably want to be able to shift your aimpoint a little to mirror minor wind changes instead of chasing dials. Shifting aim points will be tough with 10x (do-able but tougher). 15-18x will be much easier. I do it at 25x with my 308, but I have bad eyes.
A 3-15x or 5-22x NF in SFP with MOA/MOA will suit you nicely for F-Class.
10x fixed:
Low cost-- Super Sniper
Medium cost-- USO ST10 (with parallax adjustment)
Higher cost-- S&B 10x
There may be others-but this is what I'm familiar with.
I bet you are going to want higher magnification past 600Y. You'll probably want to be able to shift your aimpoint a little to mirror minor wind changes instead of chasing dials. Shifting aim points will be tough with 10x (do-able but tougher). 15-18x will be much easier. I do it at 25x with my 308, but I have bad eyes.
A 3-15x or 5-22x NF in SFP with MOA/MOA will suit you nicely for F-Class.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.8541tactical.com/magnification.php
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Nice article. Well written.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.8541tactical.com/magnification.php
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Nice article. Well written.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
When I first started F-class I used a 10x max scope, it was not enough. You don't have to go hog wild with the magnification for 1000 yards. I used a 8.5-25x for a long time and mostly used it at around 20x. Obviously some personal preference plays a role. If you haven't been to a 1000 yard range yet perhaps going one day and taking a look down a scope or two would benefit you.
JM2C
When I first started F-class I used a 10x max scope, it was not enough. You don't have to go hog wild with the magnification for 1000 yards. I used a 8.5-25x for a long time and mostly used it at around 20x. Obviously some personal preference plays a role. If you haven't been to a 1000 yard range yet perhaps going one day and taking a look down a scope or two would benefit you.
JM2C
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
Ive used Ultra(Mk4) fixed 10's and Nightforce 12-42x and ended up preferring 20x. Guys I shoot with tend to end up in the 15-25x range. One guy shoots nothing but a .50 uses nothing but his Mk4 10x. I guess what Im saying is I agree you really need to get to a 1000yd range and check different magnifications and make a decision yourself what you need to see.
Ive used Ultra(Mk4) fixed 10's and Nightforce 12-42x and ended up preferring 20x. Guys I shoot with tend to end up in the 15-25x range. One guy shoots nothing but a .50 uses nothing but his Mk4 10x. I guess what Im saying is I agree you really need to get to a 1000yd range and check different magnifications and make a decision yourself what you need to see.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
10x works just fine for me, and I was out on Saturday shooting 1,000 yards, and had no issues with the mirage. The spotting scope, and the camera (60x optical zoom + 2000x digital) really had issues with the mirage, I had to back dial the camera to 60x to clear up the image, and luckily after I did that the sun went behind the clouds and the mirage virtually disappeared.
Like others have said, it depends on the application. 10x may be a bit low for f-class, but for tactical shooting matches, or practical shooting matches IMO it's just right. Mines a variable 3.5-10, works great for me. Dial back for hunting, or any close in stuff, dial up for everything else.
Branden
10x works just fine for me, and I was out on Saturday shooting 1,000 yards, and had no issues with the mirage. The spotting scope, and the camera (60x optical zoom + 2000x digital) really had issues with the mirage, I had to back dial the camera to 60x to clear up the image, and luckily after I did that the sun went behind the clouds and the mirage virtually disappeared.
Like others have said, it depends on the application. 10x may be a bit low for f-class, but for tactical shooting matches, or practical shooting matches IMO it's just right. Mines a variable 3.5-10, works great for me. Dial back for hunting, or any close in stuff, dial up for everything else.
Branden
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
To add some perspective to the discussion, this is a picture taken on Camp Atterbury at the 1000 yard line. The white "dots" are standard sized military target carriages.
Sorry I don't have any pics through the scope at that range.
I was shooting the SN-3 on 17x. If you got it, might as well use it.
One of the other guys on the line told me it was "cheating".
To add some perspective to the discussion, this is a picture taken on Camp Atterbury at the 1000 yard line. The white "dots" are standard sized military target carriages.
Sorry I don't have any pics through the scope at that range.
I was shooting the SN-3 on 17x. If you got it, might as well use it.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
^^
It sounds to me like they were jealous!
10X at 1K-doable, but in my opinion not preferable.
Nice article too!
^^
It sounds to me like they were jealous!
10X at 1K-doable, but in my opinion not preferable.
Nice article too!
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
I was going to get a 3.5-10 optic but after some thinking a 4-16 is probably better for my application which is not shooting at people (mil/leo) but rather just paper and groundhogs, unless SHTF...
I was going to get a 3.5-10 optic but after some thinking a 4-16 is probably better for my application which is not shooting at people (mil/leo) but rather just paper and groundhogs, unless SHTF...
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
Having shoot some F class matches and spent some time at the longer ranges, I would agree with the others that you are going to want a bit more magnification. I am not sure what scopes you are considering, but having better glass really does decrease the amount of magnification that is needed. There is something to be said for nice German or Japanese glass.
Having shoot some F class matches and spent some time at the longer ranges, I would agree with the others that you are going to want a bit more magnification. I am not sure what scopes you are considering, but having better glass really does decrease the amount of magnification that is needed. There is something to be said for nice German or Japanese glass.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
Light gathering is not as good with the smaller objective on the 10x if you shoot in inclement conditions at longer ranges. Its all good on a sunny sunday afternoon
but in evening overcast you would appreciate something slightly bigger all around.
Light gathering is not as good with the smaller objective on the 10x if you shoot in inclement conditions at longer ranges. Its all good on a sunny sunday afternoon
but in evening overcast you would appreciate something slightly bigger all around.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gonna get an ST10 thanks for the info.</div></div>
Can lead a horse to water.....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gonna get an ST10 thanks for the info.</div></div>
Can lead a horse to water.....
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gonna get an ST10 thanks for the info.</div></div>
Can lead a horse to water.....</div></div>
I was thinking the same thing as I read all the way down this thread about how nice it is having magnification in the 17-20x range for F-Class and he ends up getting a 10x anyways. Oh well.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gonna get an ST10 thanks for the info.</div></div>
Can lead a horse to water.....</div></div>
I was thinking the same thing as I read all the way down this thread about how nice it is having magnification in the 17-20x range for F-Class and he ends up getting a 10x anyways. Oh well.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
Well my gun is used for everything. I will shoot about a dozen comps this year, but I will be on at least 40+ days of hunting. Same gun for both. We hunt fields and powerlines often, so the 10x would be better suited for my overall use. I have no doubt that the 20x is great, but I don't wanna drop another 500-1000 into a scope. ST-10 will do, planning on it with a GAP ret.
Well my gun is used for everything. I will shoot about a dozen comps this year, but I will be on at least 40+ days of hunting. Same gun for both. We hunt fields and powerlines often, so the 10x would be better suited for my overall use. I have no doubt that the 20x is great, but I don't wanna drop another 500-1000 into a scope. ST-10 will do, planning on it with a GAP ret.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gonna get an ST10 thanks for the info. </div></div>
Best of luck.....you will need it.....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gonna get an ST10 thanks for the info. </div></div>
Best of luck.....you will need it.....
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GoughIsland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ten power for hunting is generally a bad compromise </div></div>
How so? I normally use a fixed 6x. I know the cons at close range, but I'm talking shots no closer than 100 meters then moving out to 400 meters. Only at perfect conditions (not likely) would I take a whitetail shot that far, but pigs are no problem.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GoughIsland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ten power for hunting is generally a bad compromise </div></div>
How so? I normally use a fixed 6x. I know the cons at close range, but I'm talking shots no closer than 100 meters then moving out to 400 meters. Only at perfect conditions (not likely) would I take a whitetail shot that far, but pigs are no problem.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
Mils are correct on 15x but you can double the lead or hold at 7.5x also.
If you are looking to keep the price down but still have a good scope with more than 10x for targets and less for hunting and not have to worry about what power the scope is on to use the reticle then you might want to look at the Viper PST FFP
http://swfa.com/Vortex-4-16x50-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44561.aspx
EBR-1 Mil Reticle
30mm tube
First Focal Plane Reticle
.10 Mil Adjustments
Mils are correct on 15x but you can double the lead or hold at 7.5x also.
If you are looking to keep the price down but still have a good scope with more than 10x for targets and less for hunting and not have to worry about what power the scope is on to use the reticle then you might want to look at the Viper PST FFP
http://swfa.com/Vortex-4-16x50-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44561.aspx
EBR-1 Mil Reticle
30mm tube
First Focal Plane Reticle
.10 Mil Adjustments
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
I can't speak specifically to NF but usually at 10x, you need to check yourself if you go with a SFP reticle. There are threads here on SH on how to do such.
I can't speak specifically to NF but usually at 10x, you need to check yourself if you go with a SFP reticle. There are threads here on SH on how to do such.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
Thanks for the Info Guys. I'm more of a "reader" then a "poster" on this site. I try to soak up all the free advice available.
I'm still a noob to "precision" shooting. I already went with a 10x for my rifle and may upgrade someday. I hope to get some more range time this year before I move up from 10x.
Thanks for the Info Guys. I'm more of a "reader" then a "poster" on this site. I try to soak up all the free advice available.
I'm still a noob to "precision" shooting. I already went with a 10x for my rifle and may upgrade someday. I hope to get some more range time this year before I move up from 10x.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
you are not going to be wrong going with a USO, but a fixed 10x is not going to suit your purposes well.
A 4-14x range is going to work better for you. If most of your shooting is going to be hunting, then a 3-9x would be my suggestion.
Honestly I am waiting to see what the Vortex PST looks like, because that sounds like it may be an excellent choice for both. The Bushnell FFP scope also sounds like it may work for you, but I have not had my hands on one of these either.
Granted both are not going to be anywhere near the fit, finish and durability of a USO, but you have to decide what you NEED.
If you want to go USO, keep in mind then require a down payment (IIRC it's 50%) to get you in line. You will most likely have several months to come up with the balance. I don't know if this may allow you to move up to the SN-3 price range.
you are not going to be wrong going with a USO, but a fixed 10x is not going to suit your purposes well.
A 4-14x range is going to work better for you. If most of your shooting is going to be hunting, then a 3-9x would be my suggestion.
Honestly I am waiting to see what the Vortex PST looks like, because that sounds like it may be an excellent choice for both. The Bushnell FFP scope also sounds like it may work for you, but I have not had my hands on one of these either.
Granted both are not going to be anywhere near the fit, finish and durability of a USO, but you have to decide what you NEED.
If you want to go USO, keep in mind then require a down payment (IIRC it's 50%) to get you in line. You will most likely have several months to come up with the balance. I don't know if this may allow you to move up to the SN-3 price range.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
I'm thinking that it will allow me to get to a higher price range due to the wait. I USE my rifle, so durability is a must. I played with the USO builder today and the SN-3 like I want it is just over $2100, so that's about $600 more than the ST-10. I think that is how I'm gonna go. Thanks for all the advice.
I'm thinking that it will allow me to get to a higher price range due to the wait. I USE my rifle, so durability is a must. I played with the USO builder today and the SN-3 like I want it is just over $2100, so that's about $600 more than the ST-10. I think that is how I'm gonna go. Thanks for all the advice.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
I find that dialing up in magnification to see the mirage will tell a tale of what the wind is doing, then dial down for the shot. As many other members (wise members) have mentioned, 10X will work, but is by no means "optimal" for 1K yard precision shooting.
BTW, have you seen the X ring on the new F class target.....
Kirk R
I find that dialing up in magnification to see the mirage will tell a tale of what the wind is doing, then dial down for the shot. As many other members (wise members) have mentioned, 10X will work, but is by no means "optimal" for 1K yard precision shooting.
BTW, have you seen the X ring on the new F class target.....
Kirk R
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I played with the USO builder today and the SN-3 like I want it is just over $2100, so that's about $600 more than the ST-10. I think that is how I'm gonna go. Thanks for all the advice. </div></div>
Sounds like a fine idea.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I played with the USO builder today and the SN-3 like I want it is just over $2100, so that's about $600 more than the ST-10. I think that is how I'm gonna go. Thanks for all the advice. </div></div>
Sounds like a fine idea.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking that it will allow me to get to a higher price range due to the wait. I USE my rifle, so durability is a must. I played with the USO builder today and the SN-3 like I want it is just over $2100, so that's about $600 more than the ST-10. I think that is how I'm gonna go. Thanks for all the advice. </div></div>
Eric, I just bought an SN-3 1.8-10 x33 with the EREK and T-pal etc. Also, I am a regular shooter at 1000 yds and beyond, here is my take on it. I to looked at the ST-10 and it is indeed less expensive than the SN-3, but I figured in the end the SN-3 was what I wanted for the rifle it was going on, and fact is you will never be sorry for buying "up" rather than settling for something close. The side focus is easier for me to use than reaching out and cranking the end around if only for the fact that you can steady the rifle on target without rocking it while twisting. As far as the power... 10x, Yes you can use it at 1000 yds for certain things but when I practice at 1000, I use a
4" black center, and 10x just is not enough mag to reel that in, and shoot the type of group that I am willing to live with. I prefer to use 20x for that and I
think most guys would agree with it. The 10x will stand you well to 600 no problem for tight grouping, and depending upon you eyesight and other conditions will certainly work out at longer range, depending upon your target
size. All this being said, I really like the USO, I have the MOA, MOA setup
and the EREK knob does its job well. Hope that helps.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking that it will allow me to get to a higher price range due to the wait. I USE my rifle, so durability is a must. I played with the USO builder today and the SN-3 like I want it is just over $2100, so that's about $600 more than the ST-10. I think that is how I'm gonna go. Thanks for all the advice. </div></div>
Eric, I just bought an SN-3 1.8-10 x33 with the EREK and T-pal etc. Also, I am a regular shooter at 1000 yds and beyond, here is my take on it. I to looked at the ST-10 and it is indeed less expensive than the SN-3, but I figured in the end the SN-3 was what I wanted for the rifle it was going on, and fact is you will never be sorry for buying "up" rather than settling for something close. The side focus is easier for me to use than reaching out and cranking the end around if only for the fact that you can steady the rifle on target without rocking it while twisting. As far as the power... 10x, Yes you can use it at 1000 yds for certain things but when I practice at 1000, I use a
4" black center, and 10x just is not enough mag to reel that in, and shoot the type of group that I am willing to live with. I prefer to use 20x for that and I
think most guys would agree with it. The 10x will stand you well to 600 no problem for tight grouping, and depending upon you eyesight and other conditions will certainly work out at longer range, depending upon your target
size. All this being said, I really like the USO, I have the MOA, MOA setup
and the EREK knob does its job well. Hope that helps.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking that it will allow me to get to a higher price range due to the wait. I USE my rifle, so durability is a must. I played with the USO builder today and the SN-3 like I want it is just over $2100, so that's about $600 more than the ST-10. I think that is how I'm gonna go. Thanks for all the advice. </div></div>
I can get you under $2K.
Cheers,
Doc
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking that it will allow me to get to a higher price range due to the wait. I USE my rifle, so durability is a must. I played with the USO builder today and the SN-3 like I want it is just over $2100, so that's about $600 more than the ST-10. I think that is how I'm gonna go. Thanks for all the advice. </div></div>
I can get you under $2K.
Cheers,
Doc
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
imho, i think the 10x is fine to 1k. i have done well with my st-10 out to 1200yds. there is something to be said about the simplicity and ruggedness of it. low mirage as well. i would go with the 44mm ergo though. light gathering is good. ymmv
imho, i think the 10x is fine to 1k. i have done well with my st-10 out to 1200yds. there is something to be said about the simplicity and ruggedness of it. low mirage as well. i would go with the 44mm ergo though. light gathering is good. ymmv
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doc76251</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking that it will allow me to get to a higher price range due to the wait. I USE my rifle, so durability is a must. I played with the USO builder today and the SN-3 like I want it is just over $2100, so that's about $600 more than the ST-10. I think that is how I'm gonna go. Thanks for all the advice. </div></div>
I can get you under $2K.
Cheers,
Doc </div></div>
Two words for you Eric-
<span style="font-size: 26pt">Call Doc!!</span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doc76251</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricM40</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm thinking that it will allow me to get to a higher price range due to the wait. I USE my rifle, so durability is a must. I played with the USO builder today and the SN-3 like I want it is just over $2100, so that's about $600 more than the ST-10. I think that is how I'm gonna go. Thanks for all the advice. </div></div>
I can get you under $2K.
Cheers,
Doc </div></div>
Two words for you Eric-
<span style="font-size: 26pt">Call Doc!!</span>
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
What is practical? 10x or less. However, in F-class you are competing....you are pointing at a very small target and trying to get the very best score...10x is not the best choice. Get a Weaver 24x for your F-class comps and you will not be at a disadvantage to anyone. Use a 10x or less for more practical pursuits like hunting and tactical matches.
What is practical? 10x or less. However, in F-class you are competing....you are pointing at a very small target and trying to get the very best score...10x is not the best choice. Get a Weaver 24x for your F-class comps and you will not be at a disadvantage to anyone. Use a 10x or less for more practical pursuits like hunting and tactical matches.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scooter-PIE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is practical? 10x or less. However, in F-class you are competing....you are pointing at a very small target and trying to get the very best score...10x is not the best choice. Get a Weaver 24x for your F-class comps and you will not be at a disadvantage to anyone. Use a 10x or less for more practical pursuits like hunting and tactical matches. </div></div>
Yep !
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scooter-PIE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is practical? 10x or less. However, in F-class you are competing....you are pointing at a very small target and trying to get the very best score...10x is not the best choice. Get a Weaver 24x for your F-class comps and you will not be at a disadvantage to anyone. Use a 10x or less for more practical pursuits like hunting and tactical matches. </div></div>
Yep !
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GoughIsland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ten power for hunting is generally a bad compromise </div></div>
had a good buddy miss a giant buck because the buck was within 30 yards of him and couldnt find him in the scope fast enough to shoot before the buck ran. If I were you I'd get a 6-18x or something like that. For 1000 dollars you have some options!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GoughIsland</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ten power for hunting is generally a bad compromise </div></div>
had a good buddy miss a giant buck because the buck was within 30 yards of him and couldnt find him in the scope fast enough to shoot before the buck ran. If I were you I'd get a 6-18x or something like that. For 1000 dollars you have some options!!!
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
If you have to have a fixed power scope AT LEAST get a 20x if not a 24x ++ for shooting 1000 yard F-class. Your target, the X ring, is only a 5" circle.
I use a FFP Mil/mil scope for f-class 1000yd. it's a 5.5-25 variable.
Give me all the magnification I can get. on 25 power I can see the "x" and even tell that it is the letter x. I'm bad queer for high mag scopes, I like to not only magnify the target, but i like to magnify my shake, tremors or jitters/ heart beat from/if a poor shooting position.
On a side note: I highly recommend a mil dot reticle with mil turret adjustments. I'm convinced it will put you way ahead of the curve in reading the wind. I'm no old sage at reading wind SPEEDS, but I can look at the wind flags, note their angle mentally and fire the shot. Then i can see my hit on the target and use my reticle as a measuring stick to see how much that flag angle pushed my bullet off course. {in my head I'm thinking okay the wind flag looked like _____ and pushed me off .6 mil.]
Pretty quick I know roughly how many mil's to hold into the wind according to the angle of the wind flag. and If I mess up, i can again use my mil measuring stick to know EXACTLY & instantly where to hold for every following shot in those
NOW conditions until the conditions change once again.
And if I was a brand spankin newbie: I'd just hold "on the ""safe"" side of the ten ring." That is to hold on the very outside edge of the ten ring UPWIND and see where the shot goes. Quickly I'd run the add/subtract in my head looking at my reticle on target in relation to my hit and would know really quickly EXACTLY how many mils to hold off the X to hit the X for these NOW conditions.
If you have to have a fixed power scope AT LEAST get a 20x if not a 24x ++ for shooting 1000 yard F-class. Your target, the X ring, is only a 5" circle.
I use a FFP Mil/mil scope for f-class 1000yd. it's a 5.5-25 variable.
Give me all the magnification I can get. on 25 power I can see the "x" and even tell that it is the letter x. I'm bad queer for high mag scopes, I like to not only magnify the target, but i like to magnify my shake, tremors or jitters/ heart beat from/if a poor shooting position.
On a side note: I highly recommend a mil dot reticle with mil turret adjustments. I'm convinced it will put you way ahead of the curve in reading the wind. I'm no old sage at reading wind SPEEDS, but I can look at the wind flags, note their angle mentally and fire the shot. Then i can see my hit on the target and use my reticle as a measuring stick to see how much that flag angle pushed my bullet off course. {in my head I'm thinking okay the wind flag looked like _____ and pushed me off .6 mil.]
Pretty quick I know roughly how many mil's to hold into the wind according to the angle of the wind flag. and If I mess up, i can again use my mil measuring stick to know EXACTLY & instantly where to hold for every following shot in those
NOW conditions until the conditions change once again.
And if I was a brand spankin newbie: I'd just hold "on the ""safe"" side of the ten ring." That is to hold on the very outside edge of the ten ring UPWIND and see where the shot goes. Quickly I'd run the add/subtract in my head looking at my reticle on target in relation to my hit and would know really quickly EXACTLY how many mils to hold off the X to hit the X for these NOW conditions.
Re: 10X for 1000 yards
Great Info in this thread. I just ordered an SIII 6-24 because of it.
Thanks
Justin
Great Info in this thread. I just ordered an SIII 6-24 because of it.
Thanks
Justin
