11 year old girl totes loaded AR 15 to council meeting
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Comparing that 11 year old to Greta is not even in the ballpark.
Does it occur to anyone that she understands?
If you take a younger person to shoot do you sneak your guns so the optics ( politicicaly) are good?
Are you worried about somebody with a camera taking pictures?
The "kids" are the ones that are going to deal with the shit the rest of their lives.
Does it occur to anyone that she understands?
If you take a younger person to shoot do you sneak your guns so the optics ( politicicaly) are good?
Are you worried about somebody with a camera taking pictures?
The "kids" are the ones that are going to deal with the shit the rest of their lives.
I fail to see how carrying an assault rifle in public is showing that she is responsible. She is clearly not old enough or responsible enough to tell her grandfather "Papa, I don't think this is such a good idea." The gun isn't a concealed carry weapon. How does her carrying it around help support the view of allowing out of staters to carry concealed firearms in Idaho?
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I agree. This is not productive. It's also so irrelevant to the topic which was at hand, a bill which would allow non resident firearms owners to conceal carry, that the only possible interpretation of this mans action is to want to gain attention for himself.
Rifles and ARs were entirely not relevant to the bill that was under discussion.
In addition, current CCW law in Idaho apparently only applies to those 18+, so again, an 11 year old with a rifle is a prop.
We're damned lucky they didn't have a negligent discharge on top of everything else.
You don't have to hide anything, you just don't need to push certain images out in to the media and that includes social media.
If you are going to push, you need to be aware of the optics and act strategically.
Our strategy is to beat gun control in the courts and that is easier if we don't alienate the fence sitters.
That means keep a low profile and don't do anything dumb.
If you want to get in to activism, look at your local government and support candidates that respect our rights.
The tough thing for us is to be organized because we are a group of rugged individualists.
If you want to look for leadership and strategy, look at SAF. You can support them and maybe work with them but don't copy them, an idiot who tried to do that spoiled our chances at getting shall issue CCW in California.
To be the tip of the spear you really need to be a very good lawyer filing a lawsuit in the right jurisdiction against the right defendant with the right plaintiff. There is an almost 100% chance that the right plaintiff is NOT you and the right jurisdiction is NOT where you live. The idiot mentioned above did not understand this and got a shitty lawyer, a predictably bad precedent was the result.
Flashing a rifle you probably can't aim and a short dress at a graduation ceremony at a school where a bunch of students got shot is none of those things. It's stupid.
If you are going to push, you need to be aware of the optics and act strategically.
Our strategy is to beat gun control in the courts and that is easier if we don't alienate the fence sitters.
That means keep a low profile and don't do anything dumb.
If you want to get in to activism, look at your local government and support candidates that respect our rights.
The tough thing for us is to be organized because we are a group of rugged individualists.
If you want to look for leadership and strategy, look at SAF. You can support them and maybe work with them but don't copy them, an idiot who tried to do that spoiled our chances at getting shall issue CCW in California.
To be the tip of the spear you really need to be a very good lawyer filing a lawsuit in the right jurisdiction against the right defendant with the right plaintiff. There is an almost 100% chance that the right plaintiff is NOT you and the right jurisdiction is NOT where you live. The idiot mentioned above did not understand this and got a shitty lawyer, a predictably bad precedent was the result.
Flashing a rifle you probably can't aim and a short dress at a graduation ceremony at a school where a bunch of students got shot is none of those things. It's stupid.
You didn't "tote" your shotgun into a courtroom, for no good reason. The bill under discussion had to do with granting concealed carry permissions to non Idaho residents while visiting Idaho. Bringing a loaded AR is no smarter than bringing a flame thrower; no positives, and if something bad happened, lots of negatives.
Yep
Back in the late 70's I wanted an AR. Stepdad (who had been in the Korean war, anw owned guns) didn't want it. Said "buy an M1 carbine or Mini 14" instead. Well a late 70's AR is worth over $2,000 now. A commercial carbine or Mini 14 from the same time, not so much.
My dad was in the Army during Vietnam but was not in Vietnam. Would've probably been sent there but his required time was spent in South Korea. Anyway, he qualified with the M14 and learned to use the M16 too (and is the only person I know of with an Expert Marksman badge for a flamethrower). He was fine with my M14E2 clone (built as a college graduation present) but balked considerably at the idea of me owning a semi-auto XM16E1 clone virtually indistinguishable from the M16A1 he learned to use in the Army to begin with. I've never figured out why and he just says it's because people will be "concerned" about me owning one.Yep
Not a single person in my family that matters to me aside from my parents cares about me having an AR-15 and most of them actually like that mine is a built-with-USGI parts retro one. An uncle who was a Huey crewman in Vietnam would've probably been delighted to see it and my M14, but he died before I acquired either. He was always very encouraging about my interest in old guns and liked talking with me about them and military history.
For weeks everyone was saying to leave your guns at home for VA lobby day. Many people ignored it. Just like in this case. All the "but what ifs" didn't and as far as I can tell. There's more panties bunched in the pro segment than the anti gun population.
(Sigh)
Yep. Don't look past your nose, you might see the bigger picture.
A lot of you are seeing what you want to see.
Oh I see it as an exhibition too. An exhibition of responsibly carrying a weapon, by a child.
"So simple a child can be taught responsible, safe rifle handling."
Sometimes I would tote that shotgun a mile or more down a public road. That is the point I didn't specify, but I guess I should have made it clearer for the obtuse among us.
No one ever batted an eye. Let a boy walk home down a public road with a shotgun today. There will be 6 deputies on him in 10 minutes.
But....that was a different time right?
The times haven't changed, the people who makes the times have changed.
Teaching a child responsible firearm use is irresponsible and bordering on child abuse.
Calling good evil, and evil good.
Let them stay on the left where they belong. If they are "on the fence" they can't be trusted anyway.
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