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18" SPR 6.5 Grendel Build Complete w/ Load DATA**

Re: New 6.5 Grendel Build Complete. (PIC HEAVY)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 244</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FYI- .264 LBC (Les Baer) ammo is said to shoot well in 6.5 Grendel rifles (I believe the throat angle is changed).

http://www.lesbaer.com/264LBCAR.html </div></div>


Yeah, It's pretty much the same exact ammo as the Grendel.

I guess Les Baer didnt want to use the Alexander Arms "Grendel" name and wanted to use their own- .264 LBC.

I'll stick to my <span style="font-weight: bold">6.5 GRENDEL </span>(AA). Actually <span style="text-decoration: underline">nothing</span> on my 6.5 Grendel build is made by Alexander Arms. The barrel and bolt is from Sabre Defense (Sabre uses the compound AA throat design), I didnt want a AA (ER Shaw) bbl but if the AA Spartan barrels made by Satern were not such a long-ass wait I would have got one of those. Im glad I got the Sabre bbl tho, it shoots outstanding as you can see in my first post (at the bottom-pics) Sub-MOA.


Also I reload all my 6.5 Grendel ammo so I will not be buying Factory ammo for a long time!
 
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You don't need to do all that to get a suppressor. Buy the m4-2000 for the 6.8 and buy the 51T blackout flash hider in 6.5(I think that's a typo on their site it should be 6.8 or .277 technically).

This should exactly what you want and you can choose your thread pitch which should be 1/2-28

http://www.advanced-armament.com/product.aspx?pid=509
 
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Thats the setup I would go with for my 6.5 Grendel:

<span style="font-weight: bold">6.8mm M4-2000
6.5 blackout flash suppressor</span>

I would go with the 9/16-24 TPI for my Grendel cuz thats what it is not 1/2-28.

Looks like around $1,150 for the Suppressor and Flash hider but that doesnt include all the BS paperwork, tax stamp and wait!

But that definetly would be my setup when I plan to get it.

Im trying to get an idea of what everything is going to cost after all is said and done. +$200 for tax Stamp.

$1,150 + 200 = $1,350.00
Any other costs??
 
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Nice Build. I have a heavily modified AA Hunter model that bears striking resemblance to longrange 30's rifle. I have been doing load development for a long time on this rifle. I did find a very accurate load at top safe pressure and velocity, using 30.5gr W748 & 123gr Scenars.
The new batch of W748 I bought was not as dense as the old lot, and I started deforming the 123gr Scenars in an attempt to duplicate the previously attained velocity. I started from zero doing load development again, and the only powder that gets me there (2500fps) safely is XBR8208. I am currently shooting a .4gr over max load using Xterminator, which has given me the accuracy and velocity I want, but has drawn severe, sarcastic, and even morbid criticism from senior members at the Grendel forum. Please don't use this load unless you want to end up hideously disfigured or dead.
My Grendel experience has been up and down. There are issues with any magazines that are not sold by AA. Make sure you buy the bolt and barrel as a set. Ammo and brass have been EXTREMELY hard to procure until recently. The muzzle threading on AA barrels is an oddball size, limiting your choices on muzzle devices. I had mine threaded to 5/8x24tpi, and using a PRI QC brake can spot my own rounds out to 750yds so far.
If I had it to do over again, I would get the 24" barrel with a carbon fiber ff handguard, this would give me more powder options.

I'm not by any means an authority on these rifles, but I have been tuning my rifle and ammo and magazines extensively, and need to offload some of the shit I've learned

I would like to post a picture, but am too obtuse to figure it out. Help Me?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AlcoholicusRex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice Build. I have a heavily modified AA Hunter model that bears striking resemblance to longrange 30's rifle. I have been doing load development for a long time on this rifle. I did find a very accurate load at top safe pressure and velocity, using 30.5gr W748 & 123gr Scenars.
The new batch of W748 I bought was not as dense as the old lot, and I started deforming the 123gr Scenars in an attempt to duplicate the previously attained velocity. I started from zero doing load development again, and the only powder that gets me there (2500fps) safely is XBR8208. I am currently shooting a .4gr over max load using Xterminator, which has given me the accuracy and velocity I want, but has drawn severe, sarcastic, and even morbid criticism from senior members at the Grendel forum. Please don't use this load unless you want to end up hideously disfigured or dead.
My Grendel experience has been up and down. There are issues with any magazines that are not sold by AA. Make sure you buy the bolt and barrel as a set. Ammo and brass have been EXTREMELY hard to procure until recently. The muzzle threading on AA barrels is an oddball size, limiting your choices on muzzle devices. I had mine threaded to 5/8x24tpi, and using a PRI QC brake can spot my own rounds out to 750yds so far.
If I had it to do over again, I would get the 24" barrel with a carbon fiber ff handguard, this would give me more powder options.

I'm not by any means an authority on these rifles, but I have been tuning my rifle and ammo and magazines extensively, and need to offload some of the shit I've learned

I would like to post a picture, but am too obtuse to figure it out. Help Me? </div></div>

For mags I mostly use the C-products 10rd mags, they work the best for me and I never had a misfeed with them. As far as the muzzle threads, yes it is a wierd size but there is a wide range of muzzle brakes/flash hiders for it you just have to look around for them.

I also get great results with the 123gr. Lapua Scenars and win748 (as seen in my pics at the top)

Im glad I picked the 6.5 Grendel over a 6.8SPC or .308 AR platform, IMO I think the Grendel is more accurate than the both of those. My next AR-platform build is going to be a .260. I cant wait to start that build!

The easiest way to post a picture is: Go to Photobucket.com and make a Album and them right click copy the IMG code then paste on your new post-DONE. Its easy. im sure there is other ways to do it but thats the best/easiest way I found to post em'.
 
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What velocity are you getting with your 123 Scenar-w748 load? I'm dying to know if the chrome lined bore gives you a velocity boost. I have a 10rd Cproducts mag that works well, as well as the 27rd. curved mags, the 17rd straight mags have major issues.

The Grendel is more accurate, and has far greater range than the 6.8spc. Overall, this rifle has provided me with some rewarding experiences. The ability to spot my own rounds at extended ranges has helped me become a better mid to long range shooter.

I pulled the softpoint bullets out of the Wolf ammo and replaced them with 120gr SMKs and shot a 3/4" group at 2490fps using the Wolf powder charge.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: everyreggie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">C-products makes the AA Mags. </div></div>

Yeah i know but it seems the C-Products fit and function better than the AA mags. I dont know why tho. I have also heard this from many others.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt_Jamez</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where did you get that barrel? </div></div>


If your talking to me, I got it at Rainier Arms.
Thats were I purchased 90% of parts for this build.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt_Jamez</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does the Grendel require a specific upper? I've read some stuff that it requires a larger ejection port. True or not? </div></div> The big bore AR's (.450 BM, .50Beo, .458S) require the ejection port to be opened up..
 
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Hornady's 6.5mm Grendel ammo is out.
I had a chance to try a few rounds through a 20 inch AA GDMR and it shot into 3-4 inches at 600 yards.

This is a great option to a 7.62mm platform
 
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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">I need this for my Grendel!!!!</span></span>

I will have it nomatter how long it takes!

<span style="font-weight: bold">Advanced Armament M4-2000</span>



<span style="font-weight: bold">Advanced Armament Blackout</span>
 
Re: New 6.5 Grendel Build Complete. (PIC HEAVY)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cheddarB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">nice rifle, a buddy of mine has a grendel but never has any ammo for it, where is the best place online to purchase grendel ammo? </div></div>


Good luck tryin to find factory ammo in stock anywhere for the Grendel!

Your going to want to reload for it or if you have a grendel and DONT reload, make a wise decision and buy a reloading setup and it will make life a hellava lot easier on yourself.

Midway USA sometimes has it in stock but it sells out in a couple hours when they do get it. I have been seeing alot of the Factory Hornady 123gr. A-MAX loaded ammunition available at a couple places tho. Wierd.

I think I bought factory ammo for mine ONCE (20rds) and it was the last time.

Reloading is key for the Grendel setup. Trust me on that one!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cheddarB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thanks, I will pass the info on to him.. maybe I can talk him into going in half for some reloading equipment.. </div></div>

It would be a wise decision and you wont regret it.

If you do, buy the <span style="font-weight: bold">Redding</span> 6.5 Grendel Dies for it.
 
Re: New 6.5 Grendel Build Complete. (PIC HEAVY)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cheddarB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thanks, I will pass the info on to him.. maybe I can talk him into going in half for some reloading equipment.. </div></div>

It would be a wise decision and you wont regret it.

If you do, buy the <span style="font-weight: bold">Redding</span> 6.5 Grendel Dies for it.

</div></div>

How is the case stretch on the Grendel? are they tough to full length size after a while? do you use the Grendel/Lapua brass or have you used the Hornaday (LBC 264) stuff?

Jeff
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redfisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cheddarB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thanks, I will pass the info on to him.. maybe I can talk him into going in half for some reloading equipment.. </div></div>

It would be a wise decision and you wont regret it.

If you do, buy the <span style="font-weight: bold">Redding</span> 6.5 Grendel Dies for it.

</div></div>

How is the case stretch on the Grendel? are they tough to full length size after a while? do you use the Grendel/Lapua brass or have you used the Hornaday (LBC 264) stuff?

Jeff </div></div>

The case stretch is not bad at all. I think I trimmed them maybe 3 maybe 4 times with around 13-15 reloads on the same case and they were minor(very little brass removed to get correct OAL-1.516") trims. They dont grow/stretch much at all. Lapua is top of the line brass and im so glad they make it for the Grendel. They are not "tough" to FL size after awhile either, I dont know why they would ever be tough to size. Do you lube your cases before you size them?

All I use is mainly Lapua brass and some AA Brass. Both are pretty much identical to each other. IMO the AA brass IS Lapua brass with a AA headstamp. I havnt tried the Hornady brass but im pretty happy getting 15+ reloads wit the Lapua brass, I dont think Hornady is going to beat Lapua's brass quality.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AlcoholicusRex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What velocity are you getting with your 123 Scenar-w748 load?
</div></div>

Im getting around 2,580 - 2610fps with 30.5gr. of Win748. I get better accuracy around the 29.5gr.-30.2gr. range w/ Win748. Actually it shoots almost just as well with 29.0gr. too. It seems from 29.0gr.-30.2gr. shoots very well. I was surprised such a wide range of powder differences with the same powder shoots so well.

This is my favorite load with the Grendel (123gr. Lapua Scenars + Win748.
The 123gr. Lapua Sceanrs dont go sub-sonic untill after 1,200yrds. Thats good enough for me on a AR-platform!

My Second in line would be 120gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip + BL-C(2), its shoots <span style="font-style: italic">almost</span> as good as the scenars but just falls short.

I think they are the 10rd mags C-products makes that work the best for me. I shoot mainly bench and prone so I like the shorter mags.
 
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Thanks for all the views and replies on this thread! I see there are alot of Grendel fans out there!

Keep 'em comin!


Also I just installed the Phoenix Tactical bipod feet. I got the rubber (sled) feet and set of the claws for prone in the dirt. The Rubber feet work very well on the bench. They give you alot of grip.
Its nice to get that much grip on a bench so you could "load" the bipod and prevent alot of the bipod jump/hop. I will have to take some new pics with them installed.

Im very happy with this purchase!
Thanks Phoenix Tactical for a great product.
 
Re: New 6.5 Grendel Build Complete. (PIC HEAVY)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bustin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The 6.5 Grendel shoots VERY accurate and will shoot out to 1,200yrds no problem. A bullet such as the 123gr. Lapua Scenar is still super sonic past 1,000yrds! What other AR-platform that you could fit on a .223 upper can do that? None but the Grendel.
</div></div>
Actually there are several, 6WOA, 6mm Hagar, all of Whitleys 6mms, a 6BR, 6BRX, 6.5BR, 6.5BRX, 5.56x42 but, nice looking rig and shooting.</div></div>

Not to mention all three WSSM calibers have bullets that will feed from a mag and get past 1k supersonic.

Edit:

I had a 24" overwatch upper and I had to say I liked what the round could do. But I never did get the velocity that was advertised without doing a lot of wear to my expensive cases. So, I have to ask what velocities you are getting with those loads? Mine was pretty accurate as well. Although I wasn't quite doing with it what your are with yours.

I bought the upper to see if the round was indeed a viable alternative to the .223. After testing it about 600 rounds I felt it was a vast improvement over the .223. More power and more range. And FWIW, I took a hard look at this round and the 6.8 SPC. I chose this one just because it offered the flexibility of short and long range. The 6.8 only extended out to medium range. Where it gave up ground to the .308 as opposed to the Grendel that gained ground on the .308 at extended ranges. I sold it satisfied that it was what it was advertised to be.

As far as a suppressor, it's a non-issue here in MN... You can't have one. Then again neither can LE without a valid written reason/permission from the Governor. And, they have to get that permission every year or other year. Along with 100% accountability at all times. So, I can't help you with that.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwarrior</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bustin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The 6.5 Grendel shoots VERY accurate and will shoot out to 1,200yrds no problem. A bullet such as the 123gr. Lapua Scenar is still super sonic past 1,000yrds! What other AR-platform that you could fit on a .223 upper can do that? None but the Grendel.
</div></div>
Actually there are several, 6WOA, 6mm Hagar, all of Whitleys 6mms, a 6BR, 6BRX, 6.5BR, 6.5BRX, 5.56x42 but, nice looking rig and shooting.</div></div>

Not to mention all three WSSM calibers have bullets that will feed from a mag and get past 1k supersonic. </div></div>

Yeah ,but how many AR-platform builds do you see with the WSSM setup? Very few.
Hmmmmm.....wonder why?

Check the "Official Black Rifles thread" on the hide here with pages and pages of AR's and tell me how many you see with a WSSM setup. You <span style="font-style: italic">might</span> find 1.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwarrior</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bustin</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

The 6.5 Grendel shoots VERY accurate and will shoot out to 1,200yrds no problem. A bullet such as the 123gr. Lapua Scenar is still super sonic past 1,000yrds! What other AR-platform that you could fit on a .223 upper can do that? None but the Grendel.
</div></div>
Actually there are several, 6WOA, 6mm Hagar, all of Whitleys 6mms, a 6BR, 6BRX, 6.5BR, 6.5BRX, 5.56x42 but, nice looking rig and shooting.</div></div>

Not to mention all three WSSM calibers have bullets that will feed from a mag and get past 1k supersonic. </div></div>

Yeah ,but how many AR-platform builds do you see with the WSSM setup? Very few.
Hmmmmm.....wonder why?

Check the "Official Black Rifles thread" on the hide here with pages and pages of AR's and tell me how many you see with a WSSM setup. You <span style="font-style: italic">might</span> find 1.</div></div>

Seen a bunch actually. In fact if you go to my posts you will see a couple who've responded who have a WSSM of some sort. It's not without it limitations though. The Grendel offers a pretty good balance between capacity and performance. And like any well built rifle with a good bullet, can get you to 1k <span style="color: #3366FF">{edit: accurately}</span>.

BTW, you have a damn nice rifle.! I also added an edit there. I really wish the military would go to this round. It is a much better fit for 'one round fits more niches than anything else'.
 
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The 6.5x284 possum hollow trimmer probably won't fit.

Call them & have them make one for your grendel; that is what i did. Works well but make sure you resize your brass before using it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: awp762</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 6.5x284 possum hollow trimmer probably won't fit.

Call them & have them make one for your grendel; that is what i did. Works well but make sure you resize your brass before using it. </div></div>

I love using the RCBS Trim Pro Power Case Trimmer myslef, it cuts down on trimming alot. You could put a case in the trimmer and go to do another step like chamfer/deburring the last round you trimmed while one is trimming by itself. Nice to have.

Now i just got to quit powder weighing/checking every charge and get myself a chargemaster! Im anal tho, I feel safe when I know i checked every charge and know every charge is correct and not under or over charged.

I re-edited my first post and posted some better pics taken with a camera and not my cell phone. Also some minor new upgrades like the Phoenix tactical Pod feet. These work Great! I bought the rubber feet for bench use and a tan set of the small pod Claws for prone shooting in the dirt.
 
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Im thinking of ordering a Gas Buster charging handle to cut back on the gas blowback. I never used one of them, are they worth it? Do they actually cut back the gas in the face after the shot? Or isnt it worth it?

Also im thinking about getting a little bit heavier of a buffer spring. My shots are ejecting around 2:00. I was told that it was overgassed and to get a heavier buffer to help. True? I already have a M16 (auto) carrier to add a little extra wieght.

What would be a good buffer to get for this?
 
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This was a great post that had lots of great reloading info in there (I have been hunting around for reloading data for my new 18" Grendel). So it seems like ball powders are the way to go with the Grendels. I was curious to hear if anyone had any updated data to the above. Longrange30 was talking about the 123gr bullets and Win748. BLC2 seems to be used a lot as well.

Any comments and observations would be welcomed. Thanks
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JamesBailey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So it seems like ball powders are the way to go with the Grendels. I was curious to hear if anyone had any updated data to the above. Longrange30 was talking about the 123gr bullets and Win748. BLC2 seems to be used a lot as well.

Any comments and observations would be welcomed. Thanks
</div></div>

From Hornady:

65grendel_123amax.png
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nw1911guy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That upper an "M4" feed ramp or standard?

Crap, now you got me re-considering my .308 build ideas. </div></div>

Not sure, but you can certainly get M4 feed ramps with the Grendel.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JamesBailey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So it seems like ball powders are the way to go with the Grendels. I was curious to hear if anyone had any updated data to the above. Longrange30 was talking about the 123gr bullets and Win748. BLC2 seems to be used a lot as well.

Any comments and observations would be welcomed. Thanks
</div></div>

From Hornady:

65grendel_123amax.png
</div></div>

Eleaf-
this sucker is perfect - great starting point for me!
thanks!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From Hornady:</div></div>
Good stuff! Do you have any more for other bullet weights or barrel lengths?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jon A</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eleaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From Hornady:</div></div>
Good stuff! Do you have any more for other bullet weights or barrel lengths? </div></div>

I have the info in the new Hornady manual. All were tested with 14.5" barrel (I'm not sure why they thought it would be a good idea to test all of their loads in a Class 3 firearm that most people won't be using rather than a 16" or something).
 
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The new Hornady Reloading Book has New 6.5 Grendel data in it also.

Alexander Arms has Reloading info on their Webpage.

Hodgdon has 6.5 Grendel data on their Webpage.

Lots of it out there you just have to find it. When the 6.5 Grendel forum was up I had posted my compiled load data on a thread. There was over 200+ loads listed.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The new Hornady Reloading Book has New 6.5 Grendel data in it also.

Alexander Arms has Reloading info on their Webpage.

Hodgdon has 6.5 Grendel data on their Webpage.

Lots of it out there you just have to find it. When the 6.5 Grendel forum was up I had posted my compiled load data on a thread. There was over 200+ loads listed. </div></div>

Thanks-
I have seen the AA reloading stuff but will check out the Hodgdon and Hornady ones. Too bad that 6.5 Grendel forum is gone. Why did it go away? Also, you don't have any copies of that 'compiled load data' around?
-James
 
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<span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Here you go I found it:</span></span>

6.5 Grendel Reloading Data

users online loads @ 65grendelforum.com updated 9/28/10

BULLET BULLET POWDER POWDER
CASE BULLET WIEGHT TYPE TYPE CHARGE PRIMER OAL

Lapua Sierra 85 gr. HP BL-C(2) 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
Lapua Sierra 85 gr. HP H-335 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
Lapua Sierra 85 gr. HP H-335 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
Lapua Sierra 85 gr. HP H-335 31.0 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
Lapua Sierra 85 gr. HP VV N-530 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.200"

AA Speer 90 gr. TNT H-335 31.4 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
AA Speer 90 gr. TNT H-335 31.6 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
Lapua Speer 90 gr. TNT Benchmark 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.200"

Lapua Hornady 95 gr. V-MAX TAC 30.8 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
AA Hornady 95 gr. V-MAX H-335 31.0 gr. CCI #450 2.160"
AA Hornady 95 gr. V-MAX Benchmark 30.0 gr. CCI #400 2.200"
Lapua Hornady 95 gr. V-MAX Xterminator 30.4 gr. CCI #450 2.200"
Lapua Hornady 95 gr. V-MAX Xterminator 30.6 gr. CCI #450 2.200"

AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 29.6 gr. CCI #450 -------
AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 30.0 gr. CCI #450 ---------
AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 31.0 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip H-335 29.5 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip H-335 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip H-335 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip Xterminator 29.3 gr. CCI #450 ---------
Lapua Nosler 100gr. Ballistic Tip AA 2520 31.0 gr. CCI #450 ---------
AA Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip Benchmark 29.1 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.230"
Lapua Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip BL-C(2) 29.7gr. CCI #450 ---------
Lapua Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip BL-C(2) 30.0 gr. CCI #450 --------
Lapua Nosler 100 gr. Ballistic Tip BL-C(2) 30.5 gr. CCI 3450 --------

Lapua Lapua 100 gr. Scenar AA 2460 30.2 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
Lapua Lapua 100 gr. Scenar IMR 8208 XBR 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Lapua 100 gr. Scenar VV N-130 25.2 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Lapua 100 gr. Scenar VV N-530 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"

Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing H-335 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
AA Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing H-335 28.9 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing BL-C(2) 31.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing BL-C(2) 32.0 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing VV N-133 26.1 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
AA Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing VV N-530 25.8 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
AA Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing VV N-530 26.1 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.260"
Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing Benchmark 26.5 gr. Fed. 205M 2.260"
Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing Benchmark 27.0gr. Fed. 205M 2.260"
Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing Benchmark 28.0 gr. Fed. 205M 2.260"
Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing Benchmark 28.5 gr. Fed. 205M 2.260"
Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing Benchmark 29.0 gr. Fed. 205M 2.260"
AA Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing H-322 26.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Sierra 107 gr. MatchKing TAC 29.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"

Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar TAC 29.7gr. Cci #450 2.260"
Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar VV N-530 26.1 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar Benchmark 27.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar Benchmark 27.7 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar Benchmark 28.7 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar Benchmark 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar H-335 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar BL-C(2) 30.8 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar BL-C(2) 32.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar X-Term 29.5 gr. Cci #450 2.255"
Lapua Lapua 108 gr. Scenar VV N-133 27.5 gr. CCI #450 2.265"

AA Barnes 110 gr. Banded Solid TAC 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"

AA Barnes 100 gr. TTSX H-335 29.5 gr. CCI #450
AA Barnes 100 gr. TTSX H-335 30.0 gr. CCI #450
AA Barnes 100 gr. TTSX Xterminator 30.7 gr. CCI #450

Lapua Barnes 120 gr. TTSX Win 748 28.0 gr. CCI #450 ---------
Lapua Barnes 120 gr. TTSX Win 748 29.0 gr. CCI #450 ---------
Lapua Barnes 120 gr. TTSX Win 748 30.0 gr. CCI #450 ----------
AA Barnes 120 gr. TTSX TAC 28.5 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
AA Barnes 120 gr. TTSX TAC 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
AA Barnes 120 gr. TTSX TAC 29.5 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
AA Barnes 120 gr. TTSX AA 2520 30.4 gr. CCI #450 ---------
AA Barnes 120 gr. TTSX BL-C(2) 31.0 gr. CCI #450 ---------
AA Barnes 120 gr. TTSX BL-C(2) 31.5 gr. CCI #450 ---------

Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip BL-C(2) 31.0 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip BL-C(2) 31.5 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip BL-C(2) 31.7 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
AA Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip RL-15 28.5 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip RL-15 29.0 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.260"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Benchmark 24.9 gr. CCI #400 -------
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip AA 2520 29.5gr. CCI #450 2.230"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip AA 2520 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip AA 2520 31.0 gr. Fed. 205M 2.260"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 27.5 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
AA Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 28.5 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
AA Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip TAC 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip H-335 27.5 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip H-335 28.5 gr. CCI #450 2.230"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip VV N-530 25.7 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip VV N-135 26.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Win 748 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Win 748 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Win 748 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Win 748 31.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Win 748 31.5 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Win 748 31.7 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
AA Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip H-4895 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Varget 28.2 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Varget 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Nosler 120 gr. Ballistic Tip Varget 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.260"

AA Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing H-322 26.5 gr. WSR 2.250"
Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing Win 748 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing Win 748 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
AA Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing Varget 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing AA 2520 28.3 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing AA 2520 29.3 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing AA 2520 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
Hornady Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing AA 2520 30.8 gr. CCI BR4 2.220"
AA Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing BL-C(2) 31.5 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
AA Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing TAC 28.5 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing VV N-530 25.7 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing VV N-135 26.0 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing H-335 27.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
AA Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing H-335 27.8 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
Lapua Sierra 120 gr. MatchKing H-4895 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.220"

AA Sierra 120 gr. Pro-Hunter SP TAC 28.0 gr. CCI #450 2.235"
AA Sierra 120 gr. Pro-Hunter SP TAC 29.0 gr. CCI #450 2.235"

Lapua Sierra 123 gr. MatchKing BL-C(2) 31.5 gr. CCI #450 -------
AA Sierra 123 gr. MatchKing AA 2520 29.9 gr. CCI #450 2.220"
AA Sierra 123 gr. MatchKing AA 2520 30.3 gr. CCI #450 2.220"

Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar VV N-530 25.7 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar BL-C(2) 31.5 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar VV N-140 27.2 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar Win 748 28.5 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.265"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar Win 748 29.0 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.255"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar Win 748 29.5 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.265"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar Win 748 30.3 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.265"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar Benchmark 26.5 gr. CCI 400 2.260"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar Varget 28.0 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.255"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar RL-15 29.5 gr. Fed. 205M 2.265"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar H-4895 27.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar VV N-135 26.0 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar TAC 27.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar TAC 28.1 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar TAC 28.6 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar AA 2520 29.0 gr. Cci #450 2.260"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar AA 2520 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.265"
Lapua Lapua 123 gr. Scenar AA 2520 30.6 gr. CCI #450 2.265"

Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX AA 2520 28.0 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX AA 2520 28.5 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX AA 2520 29.0 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX AA 2520 29.5 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 123gr. A-MAX AA 2520 30.0gr. CCI #450 --------
Lapua Hornady 123gr. A-MAX AA 2520 30.6 gr. CCI #450 -------
Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX TAC 27.2gr. Wolf 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX TAC 27.9gr. Wolf 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX TAC 28.3 gr. Wolf 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX Win 748 29.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX Win 748 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX Win 748 30.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX BL-C(2) 29.7 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 123 gr. A-MAX BL-C(2) 31.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"

Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST BL-C(2) 29.3 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST BL-C(2) 29.5 gr. CCI #450 --------
AA Hornady 129 gr. SST BL-C(2) 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST IMR 4895 27.2 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
AA Hornady 129 gr. SST TAC 26.5 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
AA Hornady 129 gr. SST TAC 27.6 gr. CCI #450 2.250"
AA Hornady 129 gr. SST H-335 27.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST Win 748 30.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST Varget 26.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST AA 2520 28.5 gr. CCI #450 -------
Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST AA 2230 23.8 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST AA 2230 24.5 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST AA 2230 25.0 gr. CCI #450 2.255"
Lapua Hornady 129 gr. SST AA 2230 25.8 gr. CCI #450 2.255"

Lapua Berger 120 gr. Match TAC 28.2 gr. CCI #450 ------
Lapua Berger 120 gr. Match TAC 28.8 gr. CCI #450 2.260"
Lapua Berger 120 gr. Match TAC 29.1 gr. CCI #450 2.260"

Lapua Hornady 120gr. A-MAX RL-15 27.4 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.165"

Lapua Norma 130 gr. Target JHPBT VV N-140 26.5 gr. Rem. 7.5 2.260"
 
Re: New 6.5 Grendel Build Complete. (PIC HEAVY)

<span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">Here is MY 6.5 Grendel load data I have loaded up:</span></span>


BULLET BULLET POWDER POWDER PRIMER BRASS BRASS
TYPE WIEGHT CHARGE TYPE TYPE CASING TRIM OAL
Nosler Balllistic Tip 100gr. 30.0gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.248"
Nosler Balllistic Tip 100gr. 30.4gr. H-335 CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.248"
Nosler Balllistic Tip 100gr. 30.5gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.515" 2.235"

Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 30.0gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Alex-A 1.514" 2.225"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 30.5gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.515" 2.230"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 31.0gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.235"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 31.3gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.235"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 31.6gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.235"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 27.5gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.230"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 28.0gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.230"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 28.5gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.230"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 29.5 gr. AA2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.235"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 30.2 gr. AA2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.235"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 30.6 gr. AA2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.235"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 28.6 gr. RL-15 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.240"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 31.4 gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Alex-A 1.515" 2.230"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 31.5 gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Alex-A 1.514" 2.230"
Nosler Ballistic Tip 120gr. 31.7gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.240"

Sierra MatchKing 120gr. 31.5gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Lapua 1.515" 2.205"
Sierra MatchKing 120gr. 27.0gr. H-335 Rem 7.5 Lapua 1.515" 2.190"
Sierra MatchKing 120gr. 30.6gr. AA 2520 CCI BR-4 Alex-A 1.516" 2.220"
Sierra MatchKing 120gr. 30.0gr. Win 748 Rem 7.5 Lapua 1.515" 2.205"

Hornady V-MAX 95gr. 29.0gr. Benchmk CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.195"

Lapua Scenar 123gr. 27.0gr. H-4895 CCI #450 Lapua 1.515" 2.245"
Lapua Scenar 123gr. 29.0gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.258"
Lapua Scenar 123gr. 29.5gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.258"
Lapua Scenar 123gr. 30.0gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.258"
Lapua Scenar 123gr. 30.5gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.258"
Lapua Scenar 123gr. 27.5gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.250"
Lapua Scenar 123gr. 28.1gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.250"
Lapua Scenar 123gr. 28.6gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.250"
Lapua Scenar 123gr. 29.0gr. AA 2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.255"
Lapua Scenar 123gr. 30.0gr. AA 2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.255"
Lapua Scenar 123gr. 30.6gr. AA 2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.255"
Lapua Scenar 123gr. 28.0gr. Varget CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.245"
Lapua Scenar 123gr. 31.4gr. BL-C(2) Rem 7.5 Lapua 1.516" 2.250"

Sierra MatchKing 107gr. 29.1gr. TAC CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.255"
Sierra MatchKing 107gr. 26.0gr. H-322 CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.245"
Sierra MatchKing 107gr. 28.0gr. Benchmk CCI #450 Alex-A 1.514" 2.235"
Sierra MatchKing 107gr. 28.0gr. H-335 CCI #450 Alex-A 1.514" 2.245"
Sierra MatchKing 107gr. 31.0gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Alex-A 1.514" 2.245"

Lapua Scenar 108gr. 32.0gr. BL-C(2) CCI BR-4 Lapua 1.516" 2.260"
Lapua Scenar 108gr. 30.8gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.257"
Lapua Scenar 108gr. 27.5gr. Benchmk CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.258"
Lapua Scenar 108gr. 28.0gr. H-335 CCI #450 Lapua 1.516" 2.256"

Hornady A-MAX 123gr. 30.2gr. AA 2520 CCI #450 Lapua 1.515" 2.253"
Hornady A-MAX 123gr. 30.0gr. Win 748 CCI #450 Alex-A 1.516" 2.252"

Hornady SST 129gr. 30.0gr. BL-C(2) CCI #450 Lapua 1.514" 2.260"
 
Re: New 6.5 Grendel Build Complete. (PIC HEAVY)

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There, I just gave out a Shit Ton of 6.5 Grendel load info.

Hope this helps. </div></div>

One heck of a nice Xmas gift from Longrange30! Thank you much indeed sir! Awesome set of posts - now I just need to turn all this factory ammo into .75moa groups and brass and get to work on these...

My Satern 18" Grendel should be here on Monday from AA and I will be shooting it before 2011!