Rifle Scopes 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Larue?

[michael_aos]

I've used Seekins short-action bases and rings and I like them a lot.

I was going to order a long-action Seekins base from Liberty Optics, but I see they're out-of-stock.

Larue also sells a similar-looking 1pc long-action 20 MOA Remington 700 base AND it's even a little less-expensive than the Seekins.

Worth a try? Or should I hold-out for the Seekins? (not in a big hurry)

Odds-are I'd be using Seekins rings regardless of which base I buy, although I haven't even picked out a scope yet so not 100% sure.

 

[mdmp5]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Larue?

Don't think you can go wrong with either. Seekins makes some damn fine metal, as does Larue. I have products from both. I have a Seekins rail, but I only have mounts and rings from Larue; no rail.

 

[PittsDriver]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Larue?

I have Larue bases on my AR's and they're top notch but I decided to go with Seekins for my bolt gun. I like the idea of the recoil lug on the Seekins.

 

[michael_aos]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

I think the recoil-lug on the Seekins is a neat idea as well.

I'm not sure how much difference it really makes, but I still agree its a neat idea.

 

[harrisjl]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

I have the Larue rail/rings (albeit in SA) I endorse them highly.
I took that setup to gunsite and 800+ for a week.

 

[juniorARshooter]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

+1 on Seekins Rock Solid!

 

[ALMAORFE]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Both are top tier products from two top tier companies with top tier CS. Ferrari or Lamborgini? Don't forget Badger is in the same league.

 

[exhogflyer]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Hey, Nightforce has an awesome 20 moa base also!

 

[ALMAORFE]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Yup they do, forgot about them and might as well add USO and anyone else I'm forgetting.

 

[bcw1284]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

in no particular order:

Badger
Ken Farrel
Murphy Precision
Seekins
LaRue
Nightforce
USO
Warne
Leupold
EGW
Millett
Leatherwood
Burris
PRI
IOR Valdada

prolly some others I forgot.

 

[laanguiano]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Im torn as well between Larue and Seekins Base.

I think for the rings I'm going Burris XTR.

 

[McLarenross]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

I like my EGW. Doesnt have a recoil lug but come on, its a 308.

 

[laanguiano]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Where is the Recoil lug on the Seekins Base? I dont really understand where it is and how the design works.

 

[mdmp5]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Call up Richard Near. He makes awesome bases and rings, probably the best out there in my opinion.

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Seekins!!!

 

[ratton]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

NEAR Mfg: THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE!

 

[jml403]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Just thinking out loud, but its nice to have steel bases. I had a set of rings eat an EGW allow one for breakfast this year. As the prices increase for various brands, note the expensive ones are steel, gotta mean something.

 

[buckey]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

What dagger said!!

 

[Witch_Doctor]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

I just order a Larue 20MOA SA for my Remy with some LT-719's, I figured i would give it a shot.

 

[Diablo]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

My latest rifle has a Near 25MOA base and the next one will, too. It's very good.

As for the Burris rings, I've encountered a cold bore shot change on one of my rifles (.308) the last couple of times I've set up with it.

So, the Burris rings will be replaced with a new set of Badgers this week.

The Burris rings look good and seem to feel solid, but I'm going back to steel.

 

[bignada]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Near Mfg is THE BEST picatinny rail your money can buy.

 

[USMCj]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JML403</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just thinking out loud, but its nice to have steel bases. I had a set of rings eat an EGW allow one for breakfast this year. As the prices increase for various brands, note the expensive ones are steel, gotta mean something. </div></div>

Do not compare EGW's soft ass aluminum bases to Seekins!!! EVER!!!

Seekins gets my vote!

 

[Rappeller11]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

I ordered a larue 20moa base about a week ago and got it today. they stuffed that little box full free stuff. me likey

 

[Tanman]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Can't complain about Larue quality. Or the free goodies!

 

[egw1]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USMCj</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JML403</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just thinking out loud, but its nice to have steel bases. I had a set of rings eat an EGW allow one for breakfast this year. As the prices increase for various brands, note the expensive ones are steel, gotta mean something. </div></div>

Do not compare EGW's soft ass aluminum bases to Seekins!!! EVER!!!

Seekins gets my vote! </div></div>

Must be Speaking of our Tactical rails out of 6061 for 39.99?
Well 60,000 people are happy, if your not, send it back and we can have a look at it. If you Prefer we do make a 7075 T6 hard anodized rail for 69.99 or a Steel rail machined from 4140 heat treated to 32 Rc for 119.99

geo

www.egwguns.com

 

[CSTactical]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

I have used:
Leupold
Seckins
USO
Nightforce
And Badger.

I prefer Steel Badger and Nightforce bases. I know you did not ask about rings but I prefer aluminum rings.

 

[decodeddiesel]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Larue?

If LaRue is an option, then it is the correct answer.

 

[JCH]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Larue?

after seeing how Mr LaRue acts here on the hide, i would never use his product.

I am a seekins user.

 

[AJBello]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Larue?

Larue makes nice stuff, and I run a bunch of it on my ARs (including my duty rifle).

That being said, the Seekins is only $24 more and has a nice recoil lug built in so that would be the obvious choice for me between the two. Not to mention Glen is very active here on the 'Hide (and a class act while doing so). I've got a Seekins rail on my LTR, I don't think I could possibly be any happier with it.

 

[mgoodrich]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adrian</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Where is the Recoil lug on the Seekins Base? I dont really understand where it is and how the design works. </div></div>

Get on the seekins web site and look at the rail. Below the 7th pic slot (right to left) you can just barely see the slug of metal that lowers itself into the top of the bolt opening of the receiver.

The recoil of the gun wants to send your scope and base forward, thus this slug helps keep strain off the mounting screws.

That is also why you want to place metal slot on most bases (night force rings as an example) forward again the rail slot to minimize any potentail sliding of rings on the pic rail.

 

[Glen Seekins]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Here is a picture of how the rail fits onto your rifle with the lug. When your rile recoils, anything attached to it wants to stay put while the rifle recoils underneath it. The reason for the lug is to take all of the recoil punishment.
With a lug, your screws only job is to hold down like they are intended to do. Without the recoil lug on the base it causes a shear load on the screws. Thats one reason why some guys opt for #8 screws because they will take more shear load. With the lug touching as intended you will never shear your #6 screws and your base wont scoot around.

 

[SmokeRolls]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JCH</div><div class="ubbcode-body">after seeing how Mr LaRue acts here on the hide, i would never use his product.

I am a seekins user.</div></div>
I do agree.. I still own a Larue mount but I didn't care how he handled himself when chating with LowLight.... I won't go any farther than that.....Seekins has had a great attitude and tries his best to accomodate everyone and everyone likes his stuff.......................Seekins gets my vote...SmokeRolls

 

[SmokeRolls]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

See !!!! Thats what I'm talking about.......One on one, face to face err... I meen screen to screen....hahahha...SmokeRolls

 

[buckey]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Near Mfg!!


www.scopebases.com

 

[skydiver]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: heatseekins</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is a picture of how the rail fits onto your rifle with the lug. When your rile recoils, anything attached to it wants to stay put while the rifle recoils underneath it. The reason for the lug is to take all of the recoil punishment.
With a lug, your screws only job is to hold down like they are intended to do. Without the recoil lug on the base it causes a shear load on the screws. Thats one reason why some guys opt for #8 screws because they will take more shear load. With the lug touching as intended you will never shear your #6 screws and your base wont scoot around.

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This may sound like a odd question but over time could the recoil lug cause wear on the rifle receiver ?

 

[ReaperDriver]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Adrian</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im torn as well between Larue and Seekins Base.

I think for the rings I'm going Burris XTR. </div></div>

That's kinda like putting cheap tires from Walmart on a Porsche Boxter

 

[ReaperDriver]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: McLarenRoss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like my EGW. Doesnt have a recoil lug but come on, its a 308. </div></div>

That's what I though too.....

 

[Mike from Texas]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: heatseekins</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is a picture of how the rail fits onto your rifle with the lug. When your rile recoils, anything attached to it wants to stay put while the rifle recoils underneath it. The reason for the lug is to take all of the recoil punishment.
With a lug, your screws only job is to hold down like they are intended to do. Without the recoil lug on the base it causes a shear load on the screws. Thats one reason why some guys opt for #8 screws because they will take more shear load. With the lug touching as intended you will never shear your #6 screws and your base wont scoot around.

</div></div>

Great information. What height rings would you recommend for a Remington 700 SPS Tactical using a 20MOA base along with a Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14 x 50mm scope?

 

[carbinero]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

The Larue has 17 slots whereas the Seekins has 15.

 

[AK10mm]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

I use Seekins or Murphy.Both owners have a great attitude and that is who you deal with if you call.JMHO

 

[shooting4life]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

I use seekins if I can. If not then I get Ferrell, he makes a great product that is often over looked. Never seen a more complete list of bases for sale in both aluminum and steel in my life.

 

[michael_aos]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: carbinero</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Larue has 17 slots whereas the Seekins has 15. </div></div>

I'm not sure if that's good or bad.

 

[Meuse]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

I run Seekins 20 MOA bases on all my Remingtons.

 

[Hink]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

I've got products from both Seekins and Larue, and both are top-shelf products. The difference is good customer service and a presence in the community. Glen's got my vote.

As for the Seekins base having 2 fewer slots than the Larue, when I was running a USO ST-10 on a set of Seekins low 30mm rings and a Seekins 20MOA base, I had (generously measured) .020" clearance between the 37mm objective and the base. More isn't always better, just as increased cost doesn't necessarily mean higher quality.

To the OP -- Between Seekins and Larue, neither is a bad choice. But the volume of times I've seen Glen offer his services here on the forum and the attitude he and his staff projected in every exchage -- Glen's the way to go. Just call him -- 208-791-8741.

 

[chris223]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Seekins is what im running on a 700 sa and I have seen no short comings in the product
and glen is crazy about customer service
If I had to build another I would not think twice about Seekins.

 

[hackit2]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

SEEKINS - Attention To Detail,Customer Service,and Price, Just Can't Be Beat! That's My 2 Cents!!

 

[Sniper52]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

Seekins all the way, there products are top of the line. Only flaw is If you can get you hands on one, there customer relations suck. I can never get anyone on the phone. JAA

 

[Glen Seekins]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

"there customer relations suck. I can never get anyone on the phone. JAA"

Both of our phone lines ring all day long, prety much every day. Morning is easiest to get thru. because of a couple of people that cant get us for some reason are getting frustrated, eventually we will just sell thru dealers..

email - [email protected]
ask someone to call you and leave your number and you will get a call when its checked one of the 10 times a day. We run about 3 days behind on voice mails because we are always on the phone

If you do leave a messge please speak slow enough that we can figure out your number. if you dont get a call back its because after listening to the message four times to figure it out i give up

 

[chris223]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sniper52</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Seekins all the way, there products are top of the line. Only flaw is If you can get you hands on one, there customer relations suck. I can never get anyone on the phone. JAA </div></div>
It seems like the better the gear the tougher it is to get or the
longer it takes to get w/ seekins he runs a small op. which means
hi-quality limited production operation he probably has afew people
on the clock where I work theres 3 of us and we miss a handful of calls a day its the nature of the beast and as you know or will know soon
when it comes to building a bolt gun nothing is quick and if it is youre buying garbage or doing something wrong my first build took me 90 days and I had help from 3 guys who have been to the mountain and seen the elephant..
plus alot of these guys do work for the G and when it comes to our guys
overseas they can take my stuff and push me to the back of the line any day of the week ..
this is fun for me not life or death so if it takes me alittle longer I really dont mind. but ymmv

 

[Turk]

Re: 20 MOA Remington 700 LA base -- Seekins or Lar

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ReaperDriver</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: McLarenRoss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like my EGW. Doesnt have a recoil lug but come on, its a 308. </div></div>

That's what I though too.....

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Which base and rings are those; looks like a bit more then a "recoil" problem? Possible Piccatiny/Weaver combo?