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55ksi is for ar-15 bolt lugs. You can go a bit warmer in a bolt gun.
I agree 100% especially If you reload why not just go with a 22-250, it makes as much sense as a 300BLK out of a bolt as well.
I just received my Krieger/ white oak 24 inch barrel. Going to start with some factory hornady 88 grns, then move from there.
I've already got long distance in 6.5, 308, 223, and 22 nosler, so was looking for a new challenge.
I fully agree on the 22-250.
However, 300blk subs out of a bolt gun suppressed is silly fun for knocking stuff over at close range.
The 22 noser is so close to a Valkyrie I wouldn't bother.
Great shooting, was that on a regular IPSC size target/steel?I really enjoy shooting my 224 V Craddock/Bartlein. It held its own with my JP LRP07 6CM today our to 1k.
Shooting 80s around 2900 is just something I can’t do with my 223 Rem ARs.
It’s been a rough launch for this cartridge for sure, and I had challenges as well. But I’m happy with it. This was 1000 yds with 80 ELDs 8.9 mils/ 1.1-1.4 mils wind.
Thanks. Yea it was std size.Great shooting, was that on a regular IPSC size target/steel?
I shoot matches <800yds with a 20” barrel Rainier Ultramatch Mod 2 and my go-to is an 80gr ELD over 24.8gr H4895 mainly due to velocity gain over 88s/90s and cost of the bullets. I’m around 2910fps with that barrel length. Could go hotter/faster, but the accuracy was the same but the primer pockets died much quicker
It’s proven that the more you hot rod it, the lower the primer pocket and brass life is. Either get a longer barrel (24-26”) to start with or get used to buying brass every 2-4 reloadings if you want to run them super hot
I don’t have a place to shoot 1000yds near me but the caliber does very well with:
77gr TMK
80gr ELD
88gr ELD
90gr SMK
I would like to try 80.5 and 85gr Bergers because of the reputation they’ve got for accuracy. I don’t plan on using 95gr SMKs
Again, I haven’t shot to 1000 and developing the loads I have WAS very time consuming compared to .223, .308, etc, but my 20” gasser is a rock star. I was given the barrel, otherwise I’d of gone with a longer one for speed’s sake, but running moderately “warm” loads, I can usually get 5-6 reloads within a very accurate node with H4895 with 80gr ELDs
If I go heavier with 88gr ELDs or 90SMKs, Varget or Reloder 15 works better for getting some extra speed
I shoot matches <800yds with a 20” barrel Rainier Ultramatch Mod 2 and my go-to is an 80gr ELD over 24.8gr H4895 mainly due to velocity gain over 88s/90s and cost of the bullets. I’m around 2910fps with that barrel length. Could go hotter/faster, but the accuracy was the same but the primer pockets died much quicker
It’s proven that the more you hot rod it, the lower the primer pocket and brass life is. Either get a longer barrel (24-26”) to start with or get used to buying brass every 2-4 reloadings if you want to run them super hot
I don’t have a place to shoot 1000yds near me but the caliber does very well with:
77gr TMK
80gr ELD
88gr ELD
90gr SMK
I would like to try 80.5 and 85gr Bergers because of the reputation they’ve got for accuracy. I don’t plan on using 95gr SMKs
Again, I haven’t shot to 1000 and developing the loads I have WAS very time consuming compared to .223, .308, etc, but my 20” gasser is a rock star. I was given the barrel, otherwise I’d of gone with a longer one for speed’s sake, but running moderately “warm” loads, I can usually get 5-6 reloads within a very accurate node with H4895 with 80gr ELDs
If I go heavier with 88gr ELDs or 90SMKs, Varget or Reloder 15 works better for getting some extra speed
Seems like a fast 20", or my 26" is slow/hasn't come in to it's own yet. I'm running 25gr h4895 and only getting about 2900. Plenty accurate though.
Seems like a fast 20", or my 26" is slow/hasn't come in to it's own yet. I'm running 25gr h4895 and only getting about 2900. Plenty accurate though.
Have you shot 90’s in that barrel? I had stability issues running them in a 24” 1:7.5t at 1,000ft elevation. The 80.5, 80eld and 85.5 have done great though.
I should add that’s with a Recce 5 suppressor so there might be a little bit of freebore boost in there. Did not measure unsuppressed speed at the time but it was using 10rd avg with a LabRadar chrono
How is the life barrel of this caliber?
Lol. Can’t imagine why he’d post that. It was obviously a bad barrel/reamer combo for that testing. Too many ppl have had good results for it to solely be the cartridge/factory ammo now.
So then, what is the use of a .223 bolt gun. The cartridge was specifically designed for the AR platform, therefore it makes no sense to put it in a bolt action.
Look, the reason for it doesn't matter. Notwithstanding the fact that some folks are prohibited from owning self loading rifles, a bolt gun in .224 makes sense.
You have increased performance without the governor of a .22-250 available in factory ammunition.
When's the last time you saw .22-250 FACTORY ammo loaded with 80-90 grain bullets?
I’ll be keeping my .224V thank you very much. That barrel/chamber used to test for that article was obviously a dog.Crazy, some people are reporting 7k rounds but I've heard a lot of guys around the 5k mark. Curious to see how that pans out in the next few years when the average Joe starts to reach those numbers. That's a lot of shooting for most...
On another note, this just came across my Instagram. View attachment 7307686
I’ll be keeping my .224V thank you very much. That barrel/chamber used to test for that article was obviously a dog.
Mine has shot all three different factory loads I tried just fine. Each under 1 moa at 100 yards. I can plink out to 600-ish with the cheap federal American Eagle and I use the Hornady 88 ELDM for further. With either, it’s a fun laser like AR and all the kids and anyone else that shoot it like it.
That’s exactly what I’m talking about.My cheap ass Faxon barreled Valk that I got off the EE is probably the most fun gun that I own, it shoots much better than it should or than I can shoot it. I can be lazy and buy the 75s and shoot out to 600 all day for $9 a box or I can take my time and load up some 88s for some real fun. I literally have shot that rifle every Friday for almost a year, my boys love that damn rifle, my 9 year old girl can shoot that rifle. I dont think it has come out of my truck other than to clean it for about a year now. I always bring other rifles when we go shoot but I always include the Valkyrie if for nothing else the cheap fun factor of it.
Maybe you’ve been listening to the wrong people then. My experience with an AR I assembled myself using high quality components shoots great with factory ammo. Oh yeah, it also was the first AR I’ve assembled. I musta done something wrong...Gentlemen,
I asked the question that started this thread 13 months ago. I , on purpose, decided to pause over a year before I looked to see what the bottom line was. Frankly, it appears 224 Valkyrie is not as advertised, 1000 yd accuracy seems problematic. The world is not running to get AR's in the caliber.
The caliber is dead at our range and the few who chased rainbows with it are not pleased with results ...those are the 1000 yd shooters.
What did I have wrong in my thinking , what am I missing. I want to believe but .....
Long range is not the only use this cartridge has either. I built one specifically for night hunting coyotes because I wanted maximum shock out of an AR15 platform. Blood trailing at night sucks, and wastes time. Using the Federal factory loads with 60gr Noslers, I am getting .5-.75" groups from a JP barrel. And while I h
Every coyote I have killed with mine has been like turning out a light, there wasnt much tracking involved. I did almost decapitate a groundhog that somehow still crawled down his hole a couple of weekends ago lol. He really wanted to die at home.
What did I have wrong in my thinking , what am I missing. I want to believe but .....
Not a custom gun, but priced commensurate with custom offerings. JP figured it out in a way that few others really have, and for that effort and competence you're going to pay $1300 (base price) for the upper alone. A complete rifle costs a minimum $2k (again, base price) at the low end for a 224V done right.JP is not a custom, factory gun with no upgrades or changes.
I went to AK with my JP 224V and had them grab me 75gr American Eagle at $8 a box in Alaska
I went the range to zero it and was like WTF because there was only one hole in the paper, so I moved my POA up a tick to see if it changed, well yes,
This is 3 shots, not 2, made me laugh at all the complainers
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Pretty funny the factory guns that people jumped on early was a Savage and it didn't work, well you bought a Savage before they figured out their stuff was wrong
Nothing wrong with that. A bighorn action and a good prefit seems like a really good way to start.I know I suck shooting an AR15. But for me, 224 V is very legitimate in a bolt gun platform.
Not a custom gun, but priced commensurate with custom offerings. JP figured it out in a way that few others really have, and for that effort and competence you're going to pay $1300 (base price) for the upper alone. A complete rifle costs a minimum $2k (again, base price) at the low end for a 224V done right.
Nice things cost money, and if it costs that much to hop over to another caliber in a rifle built by one of the few gunmakers who figured it out, the best move for the everyman is to either save up or wait until other manufacturers have their act together and figure out how to make a good barrel and run a fuckin reamer straight.
I never said it was a deficiency with the cartridge, only the execution on the part of manufacturers making bad barrels with junk blanks improperly reamed.Several barrel manufacturers have it figured out. I’ve built 3 uppers so far for under 750$ that shoot well under MOA, even with factory ammo.
You appear to have lots of thoughts on the subject but not a lot, if any, experience with the cartridge. If you get a quality barrel and know what you’re doing in assembling an AR, it’s not expensive to get a good shooter.
Just don’t get a cheap barrel and blame the cartridge. Too many of us have had success for it to be the cartridge.