24” AR15 in 223 with a lot of recoil for a 223 - WTF?
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Take a picture of the inside of the lower at the receiver extension threads. Take a picture of all of your buffer parts. Post the pictures.
Don't start throwing parts at it.
What you could try is change the lower from another AR with that upper in question and check recoil/function?
I use lots of lite weight parts down to 8.5" barrels (depending on cartridge) that DON'T have harsh recoil.
Try the upper lower change. That'll eliminate the lower.
I use lots of lite weight parts down to 8.5" barrels (depending on cartridge) that DON'T have harsh recoil.
Try the upper lower change. That'll eliminate the lower.
Adjusting the block won't have the effect you are seeking if the spring/buffer are off.
Can you hear the buffer bottom out in the receiver extension when you fire it? Anything like that?
How does the brass look that comes out of the gun?
Definitely can hear it bottom out.
Base of the brass looks fine (doesn’t look like any over pressuring) but the top of the brass has a slight flat spot at the very top instead of being round.
It's against the laws of physics!...a 223? Mind control to Earth...
I shoot ARs 24 in barrels in Valkyrie, 308, & 6.5 CM, my longest AR 223 barrel is 20."
I even have a rifle length gas on a 16.5" barrel with a .122" dia port & ultra light bolt carrier for special purpose.
None are remotely considered hard kicking...IMO.
I shoot ARs 24 in barrels in Valkyrie, 308, & 6.5 CM, my longest AR 223 barrel is 20."
I even have a rifle length gas on a 16.5" barrel with a .122" dia port & ultra light bolt carrier for special purpose.
None are remotely considered hard kicking...IMO.
Just got home and for fun I grabbed that Faxon AR, and the 24” AR and out suitcase scale (basically a fish scale) and put it on the charging handle. The 24” AR was about 11-12lb of pressure to hold the charging handle all the way back while the Faxon took about 15-16lb. The spring when just running the charging handle absolutely feels weaker.
Makes me wonder if the spring in the problem-child is a little on the light side? Also when pulling the charging handle I definitely didn’t feel anything abnormal - everything felt nice and smooth just as I would expect it too
Makes me wonder if the spring in the problem-child is a little on the light side? Also when pulling the charging handle I definitely didn’t feel anything abnormal - everything felt nice and smooth just as I would expect it too
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Never said it had a lot of recoil, I’m saying it feels like it has a lot of recoil FOR A 223. Compared to my 300 WM or 50BMG it’s a BB gun. Compared to my other 223’s it feels like a lot more sauce than it should. But I think I may have just found out it’s the buffer spring… time will tell next time I go shooting I’m going to swap lowers and see how things run…
This is not correct. Restricting the gas in an AR will soften recoil and help keep the rifle flat for follow-up shots.
I wouldn’t rely on the Anderson spring to be worth a fuk. For a rifle length gas, the most common set up is a rifle length spring and rifle length H2 buffer.
What gas block are you running?
Have you ever shot a gas gun off of a bipod before?
Have you tried shooting the rifle off of a bag?
It was mentioned that the rifle is too heavy for off hand shooting, so just shoot standing with a bag and a barricade.
I'm reading recoil as the effect of the bullet and gasses leaving the muzzle not from the effects of the bolt carrier slapping around.
From experience, turning off the gas doesn't increase recoil. The AR-15 is a locked breach firearm, it doesn't unlock until after the first recoil impulse.
Yea I have a couple armalite AR10’s. I don’t think I’ve shot a 223 gas gun from a bipod before though.
Gas block is also a JP, it basically is a screw that you adjust, NOT one of those 3 position ones so you can really fine tune it.
Kinda wonder if that spring is part of my issue being that it’s so much softer?
Install the Griffin spring, Close the GB and open it one click at a time until the bolt cycles completely. The casing should eject between the 1500 & 1700 position. Also cheap bipods can make a rifle feel harder then it is, I wouldn’t use anything less then a Harris.
I would double check with JP, but I think the logo should be on the bottom with that muzzle brake.
The jp brake I have has 4 holes on top, but only has 2 ports on each side and the jp logo is on the bottom. The 3 port I haven't seen.
Where are your cases going when ejected. Before you start swapping parts take note of the ejection pattern. If it's landing in the 3:00-4:00 O'clock zone it could be the perceived recoil or, as others have implied, the design of the butt stock.
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