260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

[4Rail_Gunner]

Anyone have any Load Data For a 260 Rem pushing a 140gr VLD berger?

Was wanting to try H4831SC to see how it shot with the 140VLD.

I currently use 42.5gr of H4350 and 140SMK's.
Lapua 243 brass and Loaded to 2.800 OAL

I just wondered if anyone is having luck with this bullet and I couldn't find any load data on the search funciton.

Thanks for the help

 

[Criver600]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

H4831SC will need about +2 grains to get what your doing with H4350. The five or six 260's around here hammer with H4350/N-160. These are seated right at or just into the lands 2.800 sounds short for Berger 140's

 

[ggarrett1911]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

I tried 44-46 gr charges of H4831sc in my 260 Ackley, but Varget shoots better for my rifle. I use 38.7 gr of Varget, 140 Berger VLDs or 139 Scenars, 243 Lapua brass, & CCI BR2 primers, OAL is 2.800 for Scenars & 2.875 for Berger VLDS. My rifle slightly prefers Bergers, but the Scenars shoot very well also with the same powder charge.

 

[4Rail_Gunner]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

Can you trust whats on the Berger Box for Ballistic Coeffecient?

The Box say's .640 BC
Other Programs say .626BC
First Experience with Bergers so im not sure.

 

[ChadTRG42]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=348731&nt=3&page=1

 

[4Rail_Gunner]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=348731&nt=3&page=1 </div></div>

I've have read that post many times, the only two mentionings of bergers in the whole string is one mention of 115 VLD's and another guy that everything shoots good in his DPMS(wiht no load data)

Thats why i asked about the 140's.

 

[FCS]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

140 Berger VLD at 2.800" OAL is a waste of time. You'll be jumping the bullet more then a VLD likes to be jumped.

Couple that with the bullet being buried in the case, there is no way you'll get 42.5 gr of H4350 in the case much less 46+ of H4831sc that you'll need.

Factory chamber or a custom? Any idea of how much lead / free bore you have?

 

[427Cobra]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

Suggestion, get a fired .260 case, resize and dry load a 140vld to whatever length you want(2.8), send that dummy round to PTG and wammo 2.8 will work.

 

[FCS]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

If you want reduced velocity, go for it. 140 VLD at 2.800" with bullets touching lands is going to be going slow, so any advantage you've gained with BC is lost due to hamstringing cartridge with bullet buried in the case.

Suggesting a reamer be built around a 140 VLD at 2.800 OAL is one of the worst suggestions I've ever heard.

 

[4Rail_Gunner]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

I load the 140 SMK to 2.80 OAL.

I dont Plan on loading the Berger to 2.80
I plan on sticking it into the lands or with minimal jump.
Its a custom chamber on a Krieger Barrel
Touching the Lands is 2.950 OAL
Or 3.314 Ogive Measurement with the Stoney Point Tool

I've been shooting the 140SMK's with some decent results.
Thought i would try these 140VLD's since you can buy them at the local gun store instead of a catalog.
Thanks

 

[FCS]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

0.010 into lands, 42.5 to 43.5 gr of H4350 or 45.5 to 47 gr of H4831sc, and Fed 210/210M primer.

Did you neck turn the Lapua brass to get rid of that approximately 0.060" long section that is 0.299" diameter on the neck, the portion that used to be the shoulder?

What is diameter of neck on fired brass?

 

[4Rail_Gunner]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

I have not turned any of the Lapua Cases.

I Currently do not have any neck turning tools.

A fired round shows to read .297"

 

[fwvanhook]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

260 Rem 140 VLD
Load data was generated using Quick Load a 24 inch barrel a COAL (cartridge over all length) of 2.800 inches and your COAL and velocity could be a little different.
AS WITH ALL RELOADING APPROACH THE MAXIMUM LOADS WITH CAUTION AS ALL RIFLES AND RELOADING TECHNIQUES WILL BE DIFFERENT. If YOU CHANGE ANY OF YOUR COMPONENTS; THIS INCLUDES DIFFERENT POWDER LOT NUMBERS; YOU MUST REFIGURE YOUR LOADS BY STARTING WITH THE MINIMUM LOAD.

Bullet Powder Start Load Approximate Start Velocity Max Load Approximate Max Velocity Fill Ratio
140 Grain AA XMR 4350 36.0 2393 40.3 2672 94.6%
140 Grain RE -19 38.0 2395 42.5 2680 100.9%
140 Grain H4350 37.5 2401 41.7 2672 96.9%
140 Grain IMR 4350 36.0 2433 40.0 2689 95.0%
140 Grain NORMA 204 38.0 2425 42.0 2682 96.4%
140 Grain Ramshot Hunter 37.5 2408 42.0 2688 92.6%
140 Grain VIHT N550 36.0 2419 40.3 2685 90.7%
140 Grain WW 760 36.5 2421 40.6 2683 90.4%
140 Grain IMR 4831 37.0 2391 41.4 2665 97.6%
140 Grain IMR 4064 32.5 2395 36.0 2610 89.5%

 

[Rodeo Trash]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

Well I got started with my load development for my Savage 12 260 LRP today but before I get started I want to put this disclaimer in, I am by no means a professional marksman and all of my shots were made off of a bi pod w/ no support. http://savage12lrp260.blogspot.com/2011/05/load-developement-savage-12-260-lrp.html
My shots are from 100 yards.
My best load so far is,
140 grn. Bergers
43 grns. H4350
Lake City Army Match 308 Brass Necked down
Rem. No. 9 1/2 Magnum Primers
C.O.A.L. 2.9000
I am going to order some 260 Lapua Brass, some non magnum primers and move my C.O.A.L. to 2.9085 and then see if this helps tighten up my groups with this load. I installed the zero stop shims on my PST 6x24-50 FFP mil/mil this week, Vortex made this so easy that a caveman could do it. After turning the turrets all the way up and back down several times, it still went back to zero.

 

[greentimber]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

RE17 is the ticket with this bullet from what I've seen. 0.5 MOA or better at 2850 (26") and no pressure above 2900 if you want to go that high.

 

[Wolfish365]

Re: 260 Rem With 140gr VLD Berger

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ggarrett1911</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I tried 44-46 gr charges of H4831sc in my 260 Ackley, but Varget shoots better for my rifle. I use 38.7 gr of Varget, 140 Berger VLDs or 139 Scenars, 243 Lapua brass, & CCI BR2 primers, OAL is 2.800 for Scenars & 2.875 for Berger VLDS. My rifle slightly prefers Bergers, but the Scenars shoot very well also with the same powder charge. </div></div>

Besides the Varget, this is close to the load I'll be working with soon. RL-19 is worth a try considering all the great reviews I've read (despite it being kind of temp sensitive.) Have you ever tried that component combination?