2A ALERT for COLORADO: CO AWB advanced to committee. Now passed Senate heading to House..

[Franko]

If this passes it could be in effect for years while it works it's way to the Supreme Court as the lower courts play games and slow roll the appeals process (this is currently how things are done in the 9th Circus). The Supreme Court does not seem to be in a hurry at all to deal with 2nd Amendment cases at the moment as they have two perfect cases (Snopes and Ocean State Tactical) that they are still sitting on. They have already conferenced on these cases twice with no grant of Cert, so that even if the Supreme Court grants Cert at tomorrow's conference we won't get an opinion until 2026.

Good luck to you all fighting for your rights in Colorado!

 

[Emerson0311]

Just like a black mold infestation. Leftist filth incubating and developing spores in the miasma of their cities, then dispersing into formerly clean places until they too are rotten and condemned.

CO and WA are possibly two of the most important cornerstones of 2025's RKBA fight so far. A semiauto ban and a mandatory liability insurance. Two purely predatory pieces of legislation designed to knock the community onto their knees. On a few other boards, they are saying that CO's vote is hanging on one Democrat right now and that up to two Democrats may have turned. If that is the case, we just need one more Dem who can be persuaded to stop this clusterfuck at least for his/her own career's sake so they do not look like absolute tards when an allied GRO lawsuit is filed in retaliation as it will most definitely be filed if this shit passes.

If they can be convinced by enough eloquent and to-the-point speakers on our side on Tuesday, we can put this nonsense to rest right there. These Dems need to be informed that going to the higher levels of court might mean that their other gun related past wins might be challenged and tossed. An appeal to their self interest instinct might work to get a couple more to wisen up and turn.

I don’t believe politicians make decisions by using of morals or ethics. They avoid personal negative results, like the publishing of pictures of wrongdoings, or
the generous funding of their opponents. This is the reality of humanity.

 

[Doc68]

There are plenty of us here sending emails and making calls, seemingly to no avail. Are there plenty of CO gun owners that are lazy as shit, of course there are. The last AWB got shut down and hopefully this one will too. Im not sure what else to do but spread awareness. Ive talked with a few smart folks that think with the Dems bench being so weak Pole-us has his sights set on the presidency and he wont sign it because its too radical. As they saw with Harris, that far left is going out of style quick. I can only hope this is true but I somehow doubt it.

I've literally called everyone and emailed everyone including polis himself. Know how many relies I have received as of this message, absolutely zero.

This is past the soapbox, ballot box and we all know what comes after that sadly.

And if it passes polis can just not do anything with it and claim himself free and clear. He has to actually veto it if it passes.


They also want to turn hunting and fishing over to a group of scientists versus the CPW. The same scientists that brought wolves back here. So there goes hunting in this state if that occurs.

Doc

 

[SilentStalkr]

The USSC usually rules based on a very specific set of details pertaining to that case. Change some detail and the verdict can be challenged. Also, because it's not enforced, they don't care. Just pass it and let it get tied up in court. Therefore, donations to both sides. Cha-ching.

I was just speaking with a friend a few minutes ago. The Utah brother of one of his neighbors had closed on a house in CO. There were a couple of minor items found on the inspection. Instead of having them repaired he cancelled the purchase. Said it was because of the CO AWB. It begins.

Thank you,
MrSmith

Sadly, this was about what I already assumed. So, the question is, how do we solve this issue?

 

[SilentStalkr]

I've literally called everyone and emailed everyone including polis himself. Know how many relies I have received as of this message, absolutely zero.

This is past the soapbox, ballot box and we all know what comes after that sadly.

And if it passes polis can just not do anything with it and claim himself free and clear. He has to actually veto it if it passes.


They also want to turn hunting and fishing over to a group of scientists versus the CPW. The same scientists that brought wolves back here. So there goes hunting in this state if that occurs.

Doc

Will CO be ground zero for the beginning of the next evolution? Ha! We really do have to find a way to fix this stuff.

 

[Doc68]

Here's the bill regarding hunting in CO that's trying to be pushed through also. They are literally trying to ban everything here.

https://app.coloradocapitolwatch.com/bill/1/HB25-1258/2025/1/

Doc

 

[zeroz]

I've literally called everyone and emailed everyone including polis himself. Know how many relies I have received as of this message, absolutely zero.

This is past the soapbox, ballot box and we all know what comes after that sadly.

And if it passes polis can just not do anything with it and claim himself free and clear. He has to actually veto it if it passes.


They also want to turn hunting and fishing over to a group of scientists versus the CPW. The same scientists that brought wolves back here. So there goes hunting in this state if that occurs.

Doc

Same same. I left a VM for polis that he needs to veto it, but I doubt it will work.

Here's the bill regarding hunting in CO that's trying to be pushed through also. They are literally trying to ban everything here.

https://app.coloradocapitolwatch.com/bill/1/HB25-1258/2025/1/

Doc

Yep. Ban everything except sucking dick.

 

[MrSmith]

Right now there are a multitude of bills in the pipeline. The Democrats, sensing a change in the country, are going scorched earth, not unlike Biden (and his handlers) in their last hurrah. Here's a link to a local gun rights group that identifies the bills and gives context and status of each. Most are dubious, at best, with respect to both the US and Colorado Constitution. As Doc alludes, should many of these actually make it into law, together they would create an environment where the lawful possession and use of firearms in the state would essentially be "just to tough to do".

https://rmgo.org/billwatch/

As well as the representatives, I have contacted FOX and Newsmax asking them to look at this link. Maybe, in light of Bondi tramping the ATF counsel, a court finding some states' FOID law unconstitutional, Trumps 2A Executive order and Kash looking into how the FBI has been run, this, as a story of Democrat overreach, might get some traction. There's a couple more to contact but the day is young. Contact info is on their website.

We vote hard to keep our rights and freedoms but the public narrative is controlled by Denver Democrat messaging and media control. As abn mentions the halls are closed to the press. Youtube does have a constant feed for those that have the time to live for this.

Silent asked the most pertinent question, ".....how do we solve this issue?". I don't have that answer. I'm just an old, fat, bald guy that likes guns. I dug enough holes to finally get to Colorado, build a nice spot and retire, almost perfect then. Now I don't know if I have another move in me so my path will be to continue to call and email. There is a way to Zoom testify I'm looking into. I try to get news people outside the state to look at what's going on to spread the word. As in 2013 there are actually some recall efforts in the works, but although three were recalled those laws are still valid.

Colorado is a destination state for many people. I believe those people learning what the Democrats are trying to do might affect their decision to visit and spend money. It will take nonslanted, out of state news to inform them. Money will sway Denver Democrats more than votes.

I would ask the members reading this to call and write. Let "them" know you're considering visiting a different state and tell them why. Contact the non MSM news agencies and ask them to report on the gun control push in Colorado, include the RGMO link or another with the same information. Try to generate interest. Bring it up in conversations with friends.

Got long winded again. Sorry. I'll stop now.

Thank you,
MrSmith

 

[zeroz]

Well, after being cancelled twice it finally going to be heard tomorrow at the capital. Im gonna drive my ass the three hours to be another man on the west steps at 830 tomorrow morning to protest this shit. Its really morphed into a real motherfucker of a bill from its original abortion. I'm not sure I can stay all day to testify but I'll give it a go. Anybody else here going?

 

[Blue Sky Country]

Well, after being cancelled twice it finally going to be heard tomorrow at the capital. Im gonna drive my ass the three hours to be another man on the west steps at 830 tomorrow morning to protest this shit. Its really morphed into a real motherfucker of a bill from its original abortion. I'm not sure I can stay all day to testify but I'll give it a go. Anybody else here going?

These fuckers are pulling out all the stops at this point. Dem funded terrorist sabotage attacks on Tesla dealers, and the Minnesota Dems also introduced their own AWB this week. They are trying everything to wreck any kind of progress the new administration is trying to make, from gun laws, to the food supply, to healthcare, everything.

 

[UKDslayer]

CO: Gun Control Hearing TOMORROW! | GOA

Gun control is on the move. And tomorrow, March 11, the House Judiciary Committee is holding a hearing on SB 25-003. Back in February, the Colorado Senate advanced SB 25-003, a semi-auto ban which will bar the sale of almost all semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns which accept a...

www.gunowners.org

 

[Holliday]

So fucking game wardens will hold permitting at their discretion.

 

[XLR308]

Yeah they can fuck right off with that and good luck enforcing it considering it's unconstitutional.
Kind of like the magazine ban they tried in the past and the majority of the sherifs here said fuck off were not enforcing that.

 

[zeroz]

So fucking game wardens will hold permitting at their discretion.

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Yeah, they basically realized they dont have money for their registry and to staff it so they are trying to move it to CPW and use the money from hunting/fishing and state parks to fund it. Im kinda thinking its going to go down in flames. They keep stacking more unconstitutional shit on and the funds from hunting/fishing are supposed to only be used for wildlife related shit. This is them making a Hail Mary and I hope CPW tells them to stuff it. I let our regional CPW mgr know today that if they take this on I'll be hunting out of state and telling all my out of state buddies and their buddies not to hunt here. It'll suck not to hunt at home for a few years until they go broke, but fuck em if they want to get on board with this shit.

 

[zeroz]

Yeah they can fuck right off with that and good luck enforcing it considering it's unconstitutional.
Kind of like the magazine ban they tried in the past and the majority of the sherifs here said fuck off were not enforcing that.

If the gun stores wont sell to you without your permission slip, thats pretty good enforcement. I doubt sheriffs will tell guns stores to go ahead and sell, but maybe. I am in a county that is supposedly a "2a sanctuary" county that wasn't going to accept any more state gun control after the mag ban so we'll see how that shakes out. I was going to stop by the sheriffs office next time i'm in the county seat and ask some questions about all this and see where he stands. I saw him at a wildfire evac briefing not long after the 2A sanctuary declaration. I went up to shake his hand and thank him for that and he acted a bit ashamed of it and said he's not sure its a great idea, so I dont have high hopes he'll hold to it. If not, he wont be getting another vote.

 

[hlee]

Yeah, they basically realized they dont have money for their registry and to staff it so they are trying to move it to CPW and use the money from hunting/fishing and state parks to fund it. Im kinda thinking its going to go down in flames. They keep stacking more unconstitutional shit on and the funds from hunting/fishing are supposed to only be used for wildlife related shit. This is them making a Hail Mary and I hope CPW tells them to stuff it. I let our regional CPW mgr know today that if they take this on I'll be hunting out of state and telling all my out of state buddies and their buddies not to hunt here. It'll suck not to hunt at home for a few years until they go broke, but fuck em if they want to get on board with this shit.

Colorado could stop selling permits to residents all together and they’d be over-subscribed every year from non-resident hunters. They’d, literally (like literally literally, not figuratively literally), make 10x the money on licenses and permits if they just said “fuck all the residents all together.” Colorado resident hunters are lucky that CPW sucks at math.

 

[XLR308]

If the gun stores wont sell to you without your permission slip, thats pretty good enforcement. I doubt sheriffs will tell guns stores to go ahead and sell, but maybe. I am in a county that is supposedly a "2a sanctuary" county that wasn't going to accept any more state gun control after the mag ban so we'll see how that shakes out. I was going to stop by the sheriffs office next time i'm in the county seat and ask some questions about all this and see where he stands. I saw him at a wildfire evac briefing not long after the 2A sanctuary declaration. I went up to shake his hand and thank him for that and he acted a bit ashamed of it and said he's not sure its a great idea, so I dont have high hopes he'll hold to it. If not, he wont be getting another vote.

The mag thing didn't really bother me much it's just dumb as fuck and a complete over reach so fuckem.
I still have a couple piles of 30 rounders still in the plastic.
My plan and goal is to get the fuck out of this libtard state and back to somewhere that pulling half the shit that seems to be publicly acceptable here will get you shot or beat down.
I can't fucking stand all of the mentally ill drug addict bums so best I go before I get a wild hair up my ass.

 

[zeroz]

Colorado could stop selling permits to residents all together and they’d be over-subscribed every year from non-resident hunters. They’d, literally (like literally literally, not figuratively literally), make 10x the money on licenses and permits if they just said “fuck all the residents all together.” Colorado resident hunters are lucky that CPW sucks at math.

Good thing they are actually slated to lower the percentage of non resident tags even more. This is the first year they are doing away with OTC non resident archery tags altogether and lowering statewide max to 25% NR. Some units used to be higher. NR can keep packing in to the units that have a 5% success rate tho, LOL.

Hopefully they dont suck at math so much that they take this bullshit on. From what I hear they are tired of polis trying to jam stuff up their ass like the wolves and the mtn lion ban so hopefully they'll stand strong that their funds arent allocated for this. They put a good bit of pushback into the mtn lion ban so I have high hopes.

 

[zeroz]

The mag thing didn't really bother me much it's just dumb as fuck and a complete over reach so fuckem.
I still have a couple piles of 30 rounders still in the plastic.
My plan and goal is to get the fuck out of this libtard state and back to somewhere that pulling half the shit that seems to be publicly acceptable here will get you shot or beat down.
I can't fucking stand all of the mentally ill drug addict bums so best I go before I get a wild hair up my ass.

Yeah the mag ban is a joke. You can still buy 30 rnd "kits" everywhere. This will be a little different story I think.

I got off the front range over a decade ago because of all that. Its still pretty nice out here in the sticks so Id like to fight it out for awhile. Been here my whole life, hate to abandon ship.

 

[zeroz]

In another thought, maybe CPW will take it on, charge a small fee for the" training", make it a joke and hand out permission slips like candy on halloween effectively making it a non issue except for the general idea that they're making a right a privilege. Which dont get me wrong is still fucked but the whole kit and caboodle would be a waste of time and wouldn't change a thing.

I do think more and more its going to go down in flames tho. Im trying to be optimistic....

 

[Holliday]

Yeah they can fuck right off with that and good luck enforcing it considering it's unconstitutional.
Kind of like the magazine ban they tried in the past and the majority of the sherifs here said fuck off were not enforcing that.

This post is the example of how gun owners fight like little girls. It literally turns my stomach.

The magban was the kickoff for this agenda. 12 years later they are still moving the line, while gun owners claim victory. Deluding yourself into thinking you are winning, while you are losing is just insane……

 

[XLR308]

This post is the example of how gun owners fight like little girls. It literally turns my stomach.

The magban was the kickoff for this agenda. 12 years later they are still moving the line, while gun owners claim victory. Deluding yourself into thinking you are winning, while you are losing is just insane……

I don't delude anything this state was a liberal shithole when I got here and will be a liberal shithole when I leave it.
Worst mistake I ever made was moving here and just happens to be the closest I've ever lived to commiefornia what a coinsidence.

 

[zeroz]

I don't delude anything this state was a liberal shithole when I got here and will be a liberal shithole when I leave it.
Worst mistake I ever made was moving here and just happens to be the closest I've ever lived to commiefornia what a coinsidence.

The state is not a liberal shithole, Denver and the immediate suburbs are. If you moved there thinking different, you're the idiot. The rest of the state is still plenty red blooded freedom loving folks that are (supposedly) out numbered by the city dwelling tit sucklers. Thanks for your help moving the line. I wish whatever greener pastures state luck having a real 2A soldier like you in their ranks when they're invaded. See ya.

 

[earthquake]

I have a big contingent headed to CO in August for the Guardian match. Am I allowed to bring my 10 & 12 round mags for our bolt guns? Or is anything with a detachable magazine banned?

Would it help to write a letter saying we’re gonna cancel the trip if this thing passes? Probably too late but I only just now found this thread. God speed, CO!

 

[hlee]

I have a big contingent headed to CO in August for the Guardian match. Am I allowed to bring my 10 & 12 round mags for our bolt guns? Or is anything with a detachable magazine banned?

Would it help to write a letter saying we’re gonna cancel the trip if this thing passes? Probably too late but I only just now found this thread. God speed, CO!

Unless you’re bringing large campaign donations in you checked bags, it’s unlikely that the pols will care that you cancel your trip.

 

[XLR308]

The state is not a liberal shithole, Denver and the immediate suburbs are. If you moved there thinking different, you're the idiot. The rest of the state is still plenty red blooded freedom loving folks that are (supposedly) out numbered by the city dwelling tit sucklers. Thanks for your help moving the line. I wish whatever greener pastures state luck having a real 2A soldier like you in their ranks when they're invaded. See ya.

I have lived on the western slope the entire time I have been here but the rot and cancer is here as well.
Regarding the Denver area I told my wife and kids that it wasn't even a good place to stop and take a shit so pucker up before we drive through it.
The state is beautiful and that was part of what brought me here but the same can be said about California and how is that going for them.
The goofy 2A soldier jab is just that a goofy jab.
If people really want to win in a situation we're they are truly outnumbered it won't be in the court even if the opposition is breaking the law and constitution its a war of attrition.
Burning thier shit to the ground is the only thing they understand and until they feel real pain it won't change.
They just continue to ignore the constitution and court rulings so like I said I will ignore thier bullshit unconstitutional laws.
I wish it wasn't that way because I really do love the area.

 

[zeroz]

Not a super great showing down here unfortunately. Fair amount of folks had already gone in at this point but still not awesome. Hopefully this burns down on account of funding because I’m pretty sure it not going to be on account of flooding the halls with testimonies. Saw Fox News here but didn’t pick up on much else media wise.

 

[LMTMWS]

The state is not a liberal shithole, Denver and the immediate suburbs are. If you moved there thinking different, you're the idiot. The rest of the state is still plenty red blooded freedom loving folks that are (supposedly) out numbered by the city dwelling tit sucklers. Thanks for your help moving the line. I wish whatever greener pastures state luck having a real 2A soldier like you in their ranks when they're invaded. See ya.

Look at the county voting breakdown. Places like Salida have gone off the deep end as well. Places like Fremont County are still overwhelmingly conservative but many of the mountain towns are now insane.

 

[Ronws]

If the gun stores wont sell to you without your permission slip, thats pretty good enforcement. I doubt sheriffs will tell guns stores to go ahead and sell, but maybe. I am in a county that is supposedly a "2a sanctuary" county that wasn't going to accept any more state gun control after the mag ban so we'll see how that shakes out. I was going to stop by the sheriffs office next time i'm in the county seat and ask some questions about all this and see where he stands. I saw him at a wildfire evac briefing not long after the 2A sanctuary declaration. I went up to shake his hand and thank him for that and he acted a bit ashamed of it and said he's not sure its a great idea, so I dont have high hopes he'll hold to it. If not, he wont be getting another vote.

I live in a 2A state where we can make suppressors here without the permission from the ATF but we cannot sell them. Why? Because any gun store is going to have an FFL and if they sell a suppressor without a Form 4 and the ATF approval, they lose the FFL.

 

[supercorndogs]

In 2013 they tipped their hand. Colorado gun owners were put on notice. Magpul left and promise to leave behind resources to continue the fight. I have seen none of that.

We had several successful recalls, one of which was the Senate President who presided over the magban passage. Colorado gun owners had their bit of proverbial blood and this was the problem. The big ticket item would be the next major election and the Governors race. Gun owners stayed home and Hickenlooper won reelection. Democrats stayed in power.

This signaled to Democrats that gun owners did not have the tenacity or fortitude for a protracted battle. If Republicans were gonna kick ass and take names, it wasn’t going to be because of gun owners.

Most of our gains in recent history have been from the Supreme Court. We rode in on that wave behind the long-term vision of the “overturn Roe v Wade” movement. Gun owners falsely claim these victories as their own while sitting around eating Cheetos and talking about “when the Civil War comes”. The same people who can’t train or go hunting for more than half a day because they need to get home to the wife. The same people with a mortgage, kids and a brand new truck to pay off. Yeah, those people are gonna fight a civil war….. Give me a freaking break.

What is going on in Colorado right this very minute……… should have this thread on fire. This thread shows you just exactly how gun owners behave when there is a fight…….. Zzzzzz (yawn)

If this were a gay forum and they were picking away a gay rights in a certain state, this thread would be off the charts. It would be 40,50 100 pages by now.

If this were a motorcycle forum and they were instituting new helmet laws, the same.

If this were a marijuana forum and they were rolling back legalized marijuana, this thread would be 1000 pages

I’ve never been so embarrassed to be part of a demographic in my life as I am when the dems steamroll us with these anti-gun laws. Yes, there a good chance that much of these laws will be overturned someday by SCOTUS. And yes, gun owners will claim victory as if they won the fight.

The reality is, it will be a few actually doing the fighting. It is doubtful fellow gun owners will acknowledge those warriors, much less make sure they never pay for a beer…..

Na. The big problem is recall elections are vote in person. And the genral election are vote by mail. They would have never won those seats back in fair elections. Same goes for our senators. We never had two democrats until there were ballots mailed out to "everyone."

California. All mail in. Triples down on ledtist lunacy, but they still win.

 

[supercorndogs]

That’s good but again, hasn’t this already been tried and struck down by the USSC or am I misremembering? If so, how is it they can keep coming back with this crap?

So, has a waiting peeoid, yet Colorado still makes us wait 3 days.

 

[SilentStalkr]

So, someone needs to kick that back up to the USSC again. They either have power or they don’t. And if states can rule however they want, then the USSC doesn’t really seem to do much good. I know they really don’t because they have no enforcement arm. But in this case it needs to be heard and enforced as this is not a states rights issue, this is a BOR issue which the USSC absolutely has the right to rule and mark for enforcement. So at some point, CO needs to be hit with something to get their ego in check and get them to play by the rules that the feds set on a fed issue. Otherwise, your laws and rights are all fake and should be taken as such for people to do whatever the hell they want cause it seems that they are arbitrarily enforced, which is not the way this is supposed to work. Maybe Trump should see about pulling funding to CO until they play ball with the rules the USSC sets over federal issues.

 

[AZLong]

So, someone needs to kick that back up to the USSC again. They either have power or they don’t. And if states can rule however they want, then the USSC doesn’t really seem to do much good. I know they really don’t because they have no enforcement arm.

The job of enforcement is with the Executive branch. The courts interpret laws, they do not enforce them.

But in this case it needs to be heard and enforced as this is not a states rights issue, this is a BOR issue which the USSC absolutely has the right to rule and mark for enforcement.

A suit needs to be filed. Courts do not rule on issues not before the court.

So at some point, CO needs to be hit with something to get their ego in check and get them to play by the rules that the feds set on a fed issue. Otherwise, your laws and rights are all fake and should be taken as such for people to do whatever the hell they want cause it seems that they are arbitrarily enforced, which is not the way this is supposed to work. Maybe Trump should see about pulling funding to CO until they play ball with the rules the USSC sets over federal issues.

Legislatures can pen anything they like. It is counterproductive to create laws that are blatantly unconstitutional, but there is nothing preventing that. I assume GOA, NRA, etc will file suit to enjoin enforcement if the law is unconstitutional. I have not read the bill, but I have heard it restricts sales in the state, not possession or use. THis is a different issue than has been heard by the USSC if true.

 

[Alphatreedog]

Sadly, this was about what I already assumed. So, the question is, how do we solve this issue?

Civil lawsuits for ;
Violating Oath of Office
Violating Civil Rights
Misappropriating public funds
Malfeasance

The Misappropriation of funds should be a felony as thousands of State and Federal tax dollars go into passing these UnConstitional Laws . As well as fighting the suits .

They violate our Constitutional Rights with these laws that have been reaffirmed by SCOTUS .

According to Maj Toure , the only way to stop this is to hurt them with suites costing personal money .

Maj Toure - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

We also need to sue for 2A preservation funds . If the elected scumbags can use our money to deny us rights then turn about is fair play .

How are they getting our money . Soros is the largest EGO in the world . His organizations get tax dollars that finance election , laws and policies .

Edit: Pa is trying to pass a bunch of this bullshit .
WILL NOT COMPLY .

 

[supercorndogs]

So, someone needs to kick that back up to the USSC again. They either have power or they don’t. And if states can rule however they want, then the USSC doesn’t really seem to do much good. I know they really don’t because they have no enforcement arm. But in this case it needs to be heard and enforced as this is not a states rights issue, this is a BOR issue which the USSC absolutely has the right to rule and mark for enforcement. So at some point, CO needs to be hit with something to get their ego in check and get them to play by the rules that the feds set on a fed issue. Otherwise, your laws and rights are all fake and should be taken as such for people to do whatever the hell they want cause it seems that they are arbitrarily enforced, which is not the way this is supposed to work. Maybe Trump should see about pulling funding to CO until they play ball with the rules the USSC sets over federal issues.

Colorado is not even playing by our rules. They are playing by their own rules now. Lasr i heard they are planning to keep the tabor tax money they are supposed to be returning to make up for federal money short falls from ignoring Trump. Polis declared himself the czar of chicken flu three years ago due to health emergency.

 

[Rthur]

Slight derail:
All the states than can pass a law making an electoral college, state version, had better get it in before they pull the large city
shit many states suffer under.
By county would be an idea.
Should/would all but eliminate the above.

R

 

[supercorndogs]

Slight derail:
All the states than can pass a law making an electoral college, state version, had better get it in before they pull the large city
shit many states suffer under.
By county would be an idea.
Should/would all but eliminate the above.

R

Used to be more or less that way herr until Roy Romer as I understand it. A representative republic was never meant to be steered by the whims of whomever coukd whip up the masses.

 

[zeroz]

To no ones surprise, the pricks passed the bill on up the line 7-4. On we go.

 

[hlee]

Used to be more or less that way herr until Roy Romer as I understand it. A representative republic was never meant to be steered by the whims of whomever coukd whip up the masses.

The best thing you can say about a representative is that he represents his constituency. The worst thing you can say about a representative is that he represents his constituency.