About 6 months ago I decided to buy a target rifle, and had decided on an sps tactical after alot of reading. Instead I found a pretty good deal on what I think is a remington 700 police 20" with Hs Precision stock. It had a Millett 4-16x56 on it, and after reading up I bought some Lapua brass and sierra 175 matchkings. 44-45 grains of Varget seemed to be working for pretty much everybody, and mine liked 45 the most, putting 5 shots into a half inch at 100 yards consistently. Here is a 200 yard group I shot. The first four shots went into .67in, the 5th shot pulled it out to .98. The target behind shows my excuse for that 5th shot, a guy had offered to let me shoot his Barrett model 99 50 cal, and I noticed he had set it up and was then waiting on me lol. Thats a pretty good excuse if you ask me!
After a lot more reading and stumbling across a post for a 1000 yard f class match just an hour and a half away at AEDC, I decided I might as well see what it'll do at 1000. I knew I wanted a better scope, and decided on a Sightron SIII 8-32x56 mildot with the new target .1 mil knobs. I put it in Burris XTR rings on a 20 moa Badger base. I also added a Jewell trigger. Here it is now
I chronographed my ammo, and got up to 100 fps difference, so I bought some federal 210m match primers to try. I loaded up some more and chronographed the new loads, along with some of the old ones with winchester primers. Here's the numbers I got that day. It was sunny out, and the canopy of the range was shading the chrono consistently the whole time.
I'm still not happy with that, but the winchester primers were showing 20fps spread with fireformed brass, so thats what I loaded. I downloaded Shooter for my Droid Incredible, using the 175 smk(litz) at 2600. I dialed up the 3.5 mils to 500 yards and shot a 5 shot group. It hit about .2 mils high, and .3 left. I adjusted for that and shot another 7 shot group, it was right on target, and measured about 7 inches because of one shot way right, the other 6 were all in about 5 inches. I only had a caldwell target stand to set up at 1000, about 15 inches tall and 30 wide. I dialed up 11.5 mils, and shot 15 shots. That target looked tiny for my first 1000 yard group, but I got about 7 or 8 shots scattered out on it. I was hitting low on it.
My scope mounting kit came in the mail this week, so I removed the scope and torqued everything down right, lapped the rings, and leveled the reticle. I took it out again Friday and zeroed it in at 100. We decided to check the tracking on the Sightron, so I shot two shots at 100, and they were touching. I dialed up 11.6 mils to 1000, and 3 mils left, then dialed back down to zero, and shot a third shot, it hit right in between the first two. Somewhere in the middle of the 80 rounds I shot I moved my zero one click up to be dead on at 100 to see if that would get Shooter right on, and I then zeroed the turret again. The last shot of the day was the fourth shot in my hundred yard group, I dialed one click down to try to make up for re-zeroing my turrets. This is close enough for me after dialing to 1000 to 500 back to 1000 and back to 500, and it probably hit high from me changing the zero. The fourth shot is the one barely touching on top (the picture came out upside down for some reason).
Shooter said 3.4 mils to 500, and I hit .3 high and .3 right. Here is my 500 yard group after adjusting, the 5 circled are mine, the others are from my brother's first 500 yard group.
It said 8.2 mils to 1000 with a 500 yard zero, and since I had hit low last weekend, I dialed in 8.3 up for a total of 11.4 mils to 1000, and I dialed in .6 left. Here is my second group at 1000 yards, 10 shots, 12.5 inches tall, 17.5 inches wide. I'm happy with it for the 2nd group I've shot at 1000.
I'm feeling good now lol, we marked the bullet holes and my brother shot a group 500, and I shot another 10 shot group at 1000. I was running low on ammo, and I'm pretty sure I had about 20 that were still loaded with federal 210m's, which the chrono said my rifle/load didn't like. I felt really good on this group, trying to make it a little better than the last. Unfortunately when we retrieved our targets, my brother had put four shots into a 2.6 group, and one was about 6 or 7 inches high, one off to the right which he called(because of not being used to the jewell trigger set at 1 pound). His group hit about 5.5 inches to the left, apparently the .3 left we needed was due to wind, which I didn't think was blowing. Now I was interested to see my group. I hit about 18-20 inches left of the group I had just shot, and this time my group was 15.5 inches wide, 27 inches tall due to 2 bullets hitting way above the rest.
Now I'm not 100% sure that the second group was shot with the federal primers, but I believe it was.
Ok, there's the story, now here's my questions for you guys.
-What kind of groups should I be expecting to get out of a 20" factory barrel at 1000 yards.
-With the first group only having 12.5 vertical, and some of it was surely me, should I work up a new load with a lower extreme spread on the chrono, or continue practicing with this load?
-Any ideas on how to get Shooter right on with my data now? I'm using the Litz version because the b.c. is supposed to be measured by him. I put 2600 and 2620fps, the 2620 was closer to my 1000 yard dope, but the 500 yard was still .3 mils high. I have the spin drift turned on, and I have no clue what Azimuth is so I can't turn on the coriolis effect. My scope height is set at 2.0, no offset, 100 yard zero, no offset.
Any input and suggestions is much appreciated. I've done a ton of reading about everything, and so far what I've learned is the more I learn the more I realize there is a lot more to learn! ha ha!
And after shooting the first group and hitting one that would've been x ring at a F class target, in what I thought was no wind, The second group I shot right before dark in truely no wind hit 20 inches left! The wind is gonna be a bear!
Thanks for taking the time to read this book,
Devin
After a lot more reading and stumbling across a post for a 1000 yard f class match just an hour and a half away at AEDC, I decided I might as well see what it'll do at 1000. I knew I wanted a better scope, and decided on a Sightron SIII 8-32x56 mildot with the new target .1 mil knobs. I put it in Burris XTR rings on a 20 moa Badger base. I also added a Jewell trigger. Here it is now
I chronographed my ammo, and got up to 100 fps difference, so I bought some federal 210m match primers to try. I loaded up some more and chronographed the new loads, along with some of the old ones with winchester primers. Here's the numbers I got that day. It was sunny out, and the canopy of the range was shading the chrono consistently the whole time.
I'm still not happy with that, but the winchester primers were showing 20fps spread with fireformed brass, so thats what I loaded. I downloaded Shooter for my Droid Incredible, using the 175 smk(litz) at 2600. I dialed up the 3.5 mils to 500 yards and shot a 5 shot group. It hit about .2 mils high, and .3 left. I adjusted for that and shot another 7 shot group, it was right on target, and measured about 7 inches because of one shot way right, the other 6 were all in about 5 inches. I only had a caldwell target stand to set up at 1000, about 15 inches tall and 30 wide. I dialed up 11.5 mils, and shot 15 shots. That target looked tiny for my first 1000 yard group, but I got about 7 or 8 shots scattered out on it. I was hitting low on it.
My scope mounting kit came in the mail this week, so I removed the scope and torqued everything down right, lapped the rings, and leveled the reticle. I took it out again Friday and zeroed it in at 100. We decided to check the tracking on the Sightron, so I shot two shots at 100, and they were touching. I dialed up 11.6 mils to 1000, and 3 mils left, then dialed back down to zero, and shot a third shot, it hit right in between the first two. Somewhere in the middle of the 80 rounds I shot I moved my zero one click up to be dead on at 100 to see if that would get Shooter right on, and I then zeroed the turret again. The last shot of the day was the fourth shot in my hundred yard group, I dialed one click down to try to make up for re-zeroing my turrets. This is close enough for me after dialing to 1000 to 500 back to 1000 and back to 500, and it probably hit high from me changing the zero. The fourth shot is the one barely touching on top (the picture came out upside down for some reason).
Shooter said 3.4 mils to 500, and I hit .3 high and .3 right. Here is my 500 yard group after adjusting, the 5 circled are mine, the others are from my brother's first 500 yard group.
It said 8.2 mils to 1000 with a 500 yard zero, and since I had hit low last weekend, I dialed in 8.3 up for a total of 11.4 mils to 1000, and I dialed in .6 left. Here is my second group at 1000 yards, 10 shots, 12.5 inches tall, 17.5 inches wide. I'm happy with it for the 2nd group I've shot at 1000.
I'm feeling good now lol, we marked the bullet holes and my brother shot a group 500, and I shot another 10 shot group at 1000. I was running low on ammo, and I'm pretty sure I had about 20 that were still loaded with federal 210m's, which the chrono said my rifle/load didn't like. I felt really good on this group, trying to make it a little better than the last. Unfortunately when we retrieved our targets, my brother had put four shots into a 2.6 group, and one was about 6 or 7 inches high, one off to the right which he called(because of not being used to the jewell trigger set at 1 pound). His group hit about 5.5 inches to the left, apparently the .3 left we needed was due to wind, which I didn't think was blowing. Now I was interested to see my group. I hit about 18-20 inches left of the group I had just shot, and this time my group was 15.5 inches wide, 27 inches tall due to 2 bullets hitting way above the rest.
Now I'm not 100% sure that the second group was shot with the federal primers, but I believe it was.
Ok, there's the story, now here's my questions for you guys.
-What kind of groups should I be expecting to get out of a 20" factory barrel at 1000 yards.
-With the first group only having 12.5 vertical, and some of it was surely me, should I work up a new load with a lower extreme spread on the chrono, or continue practicing with this load?
-Any ideas on how to get Shooter right on with my data now? I'm using the Litz version because the b.c. is supposed to be measured by him. I put 2600 and 2620fps, the 2620 was closer to my 1000 yard dope, but the 500 yard was still .3 mils high. I have the spin drift turned on, and I have no clue what Azimuth is so I can't turn on the coriolis effect. My scope height is set at 2.0, no offset, 100 yard zero, no offset.
Any input and suggestions is much appreciated. I've done a ton of reading about everything, and so far what I've learned is the more I learn the more I realize there is a lot more to learn! ha ha!
And after shooting the first group and hitting one that would've been x ring at a F class target, in what I thought was no wind, The second group I shot right before dark in truely no wind hit 20 inches left! The wind is gonna be a bear!
Thanks for taking the time to read this book,
Devin
