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JGlasgowXFirst Sergeant
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30-06
10/09/2014
Hornady M1 Garand load:
Hornady case
47 grains Varget
168 AMax
3.240 OAL
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GregLangeliusXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 30-06
10/10/2014 Last edited 10/10/2014 by GregLangelius
Garand 150gr Ball Equivalent Load:
My load originally from the NRA Garand Rifle Reprint:
50.0gr IMR-4064
I use Rem or Win brass and FL resize, primer is any basic (Boxer) Large Rifle Primer.
HDY 150gr #3037 FMJBT (With cannelure) seated in proper alignment with the cannelure.
This is my source for Garand Enbloc Clips.
This is a very satisfactory Repro Garand Rifle Belt.
Greg
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SHMILOXGunny Sergeant
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Re: 30-06
10/11/2014
(7 votes)
30-06, have no idea, 6.5-06 is where it's at. Sorry here, just making 1st post, carry on.
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JGlasgowXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 30-06
10/12/2014
I tested another load today. This time with 168 SMK, and 168 Barnes TTSX.
FC brass
Win LR primer
48.1gr IMR 4064
COAL 3.270
Both loads shot sub MOA out of my stock Savage 111 hunter. No velocity numbers at this time. Will test when I get a chance.
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GregLangeliusXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 30-06
10/13/2014 Last edited 10/30/2014 by GregLangelius
Greg
PS This load proved outstanding in my M70 Sporter/light tactical rifle; three rounds into 2" at 250yd off a sandbag/bench. I have also loaded the same components, substituting the 165SGK, will test as time permits.
Finally had a good shooting day yesterday (Saturday), and rezeroed with the 165SGK load at 200yd. This is a very good load, at least as accurate as the 168SMK load.
Went back Tuesday and shot the 168gr SMK and 165gr SGK loads side by side. The SMK load patterned its five-group (very) slightly tighter and slightly higher and righter (within 2" each at 200) than the SGK load, which, while significant, is well within acceptable standards, especially since the POI shift is consistent and predictable. My Weaver Classic V-16 allows this to be visible and adaptable at 200yd on Shoot-n-See type targets.
Both loads handle wind very well at 200yd. I only quit because the wind was bouncing my targets around too much to aim at consistently
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30CalCowXSergeant
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Re: 30-06
10/13/2014 Last edited 10/14/2014 by 30CalCow
178 A-max/Lapua Brass/56.2gr H4350/Fed210 Primer good for 2700fps.
Went to book max 57.5 with no pressure but inconsistent results. Settled at lower node with decent velocity and hopefully nice long brass life.
BTW I have noticed that the Sierra load manual states H4831SC as accuracy load for the 30-06 and 150/155gr bullet. I have found the Sierra accuracy loads to be on point with some other cartridges but have never found anything of the sort listed across the internet. Anyone ever give this combination a shot?
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para72
XGunny Sergeant
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688 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/15/2014
73 R700 bdl 22"
Rem brass
FED.210M
Hybrid 100v 55.8g
hornady 178 bthp
Col:3.387
Fps.2700
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blg3006XCorporal
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59 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/15/2014
TC Venture 24in.
56.5 IMR 4350 3.35 oal 178 amax 2770 fps.
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colby1979XCorporal
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98 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/15/2014
30.06 180gr Nosler Accubond hunting load
22" REm 700 1-10 twist #4 contour Shilen Select Match
55.2gr RE-17, 3.340 OAL, Wolf LR primer, R-P Brass
2960 fps @5000' ASL, .500 3 shot groups @ 100yds
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Hookturnr
X83 MONTHS
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Sergeant
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Re: 30-06
10/16/2014
These are Dan Newberry's OCW loads. I've had great luck with the 165 load using 168gr. Berger Classic Hunters
30-06 Springfield using IMR 4350
155 grain bullet, 58.6 grains (extrapolated from following two loads, untested as of this writing)
165 grain bullet, 57.5 grains
180 grain bullet, 56.0 grains
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BhobbsXPrivate
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Re: 30-06
10/31/2014
Any data with the 215 hybrid?
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blg3006XCorporal
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Re: 30-06
10/31/2014
---------------------------------------------
--- Bhobbs wrote:
Any data with the 215 hybrid?
---------------------------------------------
No data but when I get my hands on some 215s and reloader 17 it will be a perfect match
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trailrider121XGunny Sergeant
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Re: 30-06
11/01/2014
Marlin Xl7 bolt:
24" criterion barrel
Berger 185 VLD Hunting
Winchester Brass
H4350 @ 57.0grs
CCI-200 or BR2
.070" off the lands
Speed 2810avg. with great ES. I have shot this to 730 yards and will hold half moa.
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BhobbsXPrivate
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Re: 30-06
11/02/2014
Isn't Re17 a little fast for such a heavy bullet in .30-06?
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Hookturnr
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Re: 30-06
11/03/2014
Pre war Model 70 load
Federal case
Fed LR Match primer
55.7gr. IMR 4350
168 Berger Classic Hunter
3/4MOA in my rifle
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blg3006XCorporal
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59 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/03/2014
---------------------------------------------
--- Bhobbs wrote:
Isn't Re17 a little fast for such a heavy bullet in .30-06?
---------------------------------------------
There is some guys over on LRH getting some amazing velocities with 17 and the 215 hybrid and the 208 Amax.
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campxXCorporal
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Re: 30-06
11/04/2014
Looking for a starting point for H4350 and 185gr Berger VLD Hunting.
Currently using R-22 as it was the only powder I could find for a long time around here. Got my mitts on some H4350 finally.......
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JigStick
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471 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/06/2014
Brux 24in 1:10 twist
165g Sierra HPBT GameKing
55.5g H4350
Win Large Rifle Primer
Lapua Brass
1/2in or better at 100yds
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blg3006XCorporal
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59 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/07/2014
200grn smk 52grns imr 4350 fed brass fed 215 match primer 3.34 oal.
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blg3006XCorporal
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59 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/07/2014
50 grns. Imr 4064 165gr hornady btsp seated to the cannelure fed 210 primer rem brass
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BhobbsXPrivate
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Re: 30-06
11/07/2014
I thought that was in the .308 Win. Either way, I am trying both the 208 A-Max and 215 Hybrid so I'm interested in your results.
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blg3006XCorporal
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Re: 30-06
11/07/2014
There's a guy getting 2700fps with a moly 208grn Amax with RL 17 out of a 20 IN. Barrel 30-06!!!!
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GregLangeliusXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 30-06
11/10/2014 Last edited 11/17/2014 by GregLangelius
Followup on the 168SMK/165SGK 48.1gr IMR-4064 load as of yesterday, 10/9/14.
Performed/attempted sight-in with Ruger 77 MK I and Axis II XP.
The Ruger is very happy with the load, 200yd sight-in distance prints within a 3" dot, 150yd 1-2" high, 100yd, essentially right on again.
The Axis II XP is not liking this load, nor a previous handload, nor Hornady 150gr American Whitetail. Everything is opening up to about 6"-8" at 200yd, and that's not acceptable.
I will need to go over the rifle for issues, but that's for the coming Spring; this coming Saturday is Gun Season Opening Day.
When I did the initial sight-in, I discovered the ring mounting and clamping screws were mushy tight, and secured them more positively; this could be related the issue.
Greg
PS After Action NY Southern Zone Opening W/E 9/15+16/14:
I still got skunked, but at least I got a shot at fast mover. No contact established.
Later, saw five deer moving fast at about 200yd in a drive, but had 4 drivers in the brush somewhere behind them, no shot taken.
Six hunters/six deer, three of them brown/down by my Son-in-Law. One by 91/30 7.62x54Rwith HDY 150gr SP Interlock 303 handloads, one by M77 MK I 30-06 with 165 SGK handloads, one by Mossie 500 12ga Slug. Both handloads performed quite well, both shots were closer in.
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GregLangeliusXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 30-06
11/22/2014 Last edited 11/23/2014 by GregLangelius
We went back to the vineyard and hunted the same spot driving to me, as Opening Day last Saturday; and what looked like the same two does popped out of the vines about 50yd away from the last time. Took the same shot as last time; and this time, we connected, but I didn't know that at the time. Deer disappeared into the woods, and I waited the requisite 5 minutes while I went over the area where the deer was when I shot. No hair, no blood were found.
I tracked into the disturbed leaves about 50yd, but no hair, no blood anywhere. One of our young hunters RDV'd with me, and he had me stay put and began tracking. About 20yd past where I had stopped he signaled blood. and began a stealthy track. About 60ys further. the blood trail ended and the snow and ruffled leaves got chaotic; after abput 10 minutes wasted trying to pick up more blood we all came back and decided to drive the woods from the opposite end. Toward the end of the drive a small doe popped out and was taken. We went back and redrove the area the small doe came from, found mine, and dispatched same.
Dressed out, we went back to the barn, hung and skinned the two doe. Hung, it appears mine was one of the bigger deer taken so far this year, buck or doe. Guys who know more about this estimated her at around 130lb.
The shot placement was abaft of ideal. The terminal performance was very good, but nearly all of the blood was internal. We were fortunate to have eventually harvested this doe. But venison is venison, and tracking further, and persisting in the search are the lessons of the day. That's eight deer down and five were finished off by my Son-in-Law, including my doe.
A good day.
Greg
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GrantAXGunny Sergeant
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Re: 30-06
12/06/2014
forum.snipershide.info/showthread.php?t=15880
you're welcome
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tlfeathersXPrivate
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36 posts this site
Re: 30-06
12/19/2014
Berger 210 gr VLD
Lake City 63 National Match Brass
50.4 gr. H4350
Winchester Large Rifle Primer
Bullet seated .003 off the rifling
Avg. velocity 2542 FPS
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Overwatch260XSergeant
Rating: 3.3/5 this site
217 posts this site
Re: 30-06
12/30/2014
Lapua D46 185gr
Winchester brass
53.4 gr H4350
CCI200 primer
COAL 3.315"
Shoots extremely well in my '68 Winchester M70 Target
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2054 posts this site
30-06
10/09/2014
Hornady M1 Garand load:
Hornady case
47 grains Varget
168 AMax
3.240 OAL
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GregLangeliusXFirst Sergeant
Rating: 3.4/5 this site
5017 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/10/2014 Last edited 10/10/2014 by GregLangelius
Garand 150gr Ball Equivalent Load:
My load originally from the NRA Garand Rifle Reprint:
50.0gr IMR-4064
I use Rem or Win brass and FL resize, primer is any basic (Boxer) Large Rifle Primer.
HDY 150gr #3037 FMJBT (With cannelure) seated in proper alignment with the cannelure.
This is my source for Garand Enbloc Clips.
This is a very satisfactory Repro Garand Rifle Belt.
Greg
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SHMILOXGunny Sergeant
Rating: 3.0/5 this site
510 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/11/2014
(7 votes)
30-06, have no idea, 6.5-06 is where it's at. Sorry here, just making 1st post, carry on.
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JGlasgowXFirst Sergeant
Rating: 3.4/5 this site
2054 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/12/2014
I tested another load today. This time with 168 SMK, and 168 Barnes TTSX.
FC brass
Win LR primer
48.1gr IMR 4064
COAL 3.270
Both loads shot sub MOA out of my stock Savage 111 hunter. No velocity numbers at this time. Will test when I get a chance.
Rate now:
GregLangeliusXFirst Sergeant
Rating: 3.4/5 this site
5017 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/13/2014 Last edited 10/30/2014 by GregLangelius
JGlasgow wrote: I tested another load today. This time with 168 SMK, and 168 Barnes TTSX.
FC brass Win LR primer 48.1gr IMR 4064 COAL 3.270
Both loads shot sub MOA out of my stock Savage 111 hunter. No velocity numbers at this time. Will test when I get a chance.
This load was recommended to me (168SMK) on the old site. I loaded up a bunch with 168SMK and 165SGK today, Will test tomorrow in my older M70 sporter and brand new Axis II XP.FC brass Win LR primer 48.1gr IMR 4064 COAL 3.270
Both loads shot sub MOA out of my stock Savage 111 hunter. No velocity numbers at this time. Will test when I get a chance.
Greg
PS This load proved outstanding in my M70 Sporter/light tactical rifle; three rounds into 2" at 250yd off a sandbag/bench. I have also loaded the same components, substituting the 165SGK, will test as time permits.
Finally had a good shooting day yesterday (Saturday), and rezeroed with the 165SGK load at 200yd. This is a very good load, at least as accurate as the 168SMK load.
Went back Tuesday and shot the 168gr SMK and 165gr SGK loads side by side. The SMK load patterned its five-group (very) slightly tighter and slightly higher and righter (within 2" each at 200) than the SGK load, which, while significant, is well within acceptable standards, especially since the POI shift is consistent and predictable. My Weaver Classic V-16 allows this to be visible and adaptable at 200yd on Shoot-n-See type targets.
Both loads handle wind very well at 200yd. I only quit because the wind was bouncing my targets around too much to aim at consistently
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30CalCowXSergeant
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479 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/13/2014 Last edited 10/14/2014 by 30CalCow
178 A-max/Lapua Brass/56.2gr H4350/Fed210 Primer good for 2700fps.
Went to book max 57.5 with no pressure but inconsistent results. Settled at lower node with decent velocity and hopefully nice long brass life.
BTW I have noticed that the Sierra load manual states H4831SC as accuracy load for the 30-06 and 150/155gr bullet. I have found the Sierra accuracy loads to be on point with some other cartridges but have never found anything of the sort listed across the internet. Anyone ever give this combination a shot?
Rate now:
para72
XGunny Sergeant
Rating: 3.0/5 this site
688 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/15/2014
73 R700 bdl 22"
Rem brass
FED.210M
Hybrid 100v 55.8g
hornady 178 bthp
Col:3.387
Fps.2700
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blg3006XCorporal
Rating: 3.0/5 this site
59 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/15/2014
TC Venture 24in.
56.5 IMR 4350 3.35 oal 178 amax 2770 fps.
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colby1979XCorporal
Rating: 3.0/5 this site
98 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/15/2014
30.06 180gr Nosler Accubond hunting load
22" REm 700 1-10 twist #4 contour Shilen Select Match
55.2gr RE-17, 3.340 OAL, Wolf LR primer, R-P Brass
2960 fps @5000' ASL, .500 3 shot groups @ 100yds
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Hookturnr
X83 MONTHS
Premium Member
Sergeant
Rating: 3.1/5 this site
338 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/16/2014
These are Dan Newberry's OCW loads. I've had great luck with the 165 load using 168gr. Berger Classic Hunters
30-06 Springfield using IMR 4350
155 grain bullet, 58.6 grains (extrapolated from following two loads, untested as of this writing)
165 grain bullet, 57.5 grains
180 grain bullet, 56.0 grains
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BhobbsXPrivate
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29 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/31/2014
Any data with the 215 hybrid?
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blg3006XCorporal
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59 posts this site
Re: 30-06
10/31/2014
---------------------------------------------
--- Bhobbs wrote:
Any data with the 215 hybrid?
---------------------------------------------
No data but when I get my hands on some 215s and reloader 17 it will be a perfect match
Rate now:
trailrider121XGunny Sergeant
Rating: 3.0/5 this site
888 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/01/2014
Marlin Xl7 bolt:
24" criterion barrel
Berger 185 VLD Hunting
Winchester Brass
H4350 @ 57.0grs
CCI-200 or BR2
.070" off the lands
Speed 2810avg. with great ES. I have shot this to 730 yards and will hold half moa.
Rate now:
BhobbsXPrivate
Rating: 0.0/5 this site
29 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/02/2014
Isn't Re17 a little fast for such a heavy bullet in .30-06?
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Hookturnr
X83 MONTHS
Premium Member
Sergeant
Rating: 3.1/5 this site
338 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/03/2014
Pre war Model 70 load
Federal case
Fed LR Match primer
55.7gr. IMR 4350
168 Berger Classic Hunter
3/4MOA in my rifle
Rate now:
blg3006XCorporal
Rating: 3.0/5 this site
59 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/03/2014
---------------------------------------------
--- Bhobbs wrote:
Isn't Re17 a little fast for such a heavy bullet in .30-06?
---------------------------------------------
There is some guys over on LRH getting some amazing velocities with 17 and the 215 hybrid and the 208 Amax.
Rate now:
campxXCorporal
Rating: 3.0/5 this site
65 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/04/2014
Looking for a starting point for H4350 and 185gr Berger VLD Hunting.
Currently using R-22 as it was the only powder I could find for a long time around here. Got my mitts on some H4350 finally.......
Rate now:
JigStick
XSergeant
Rating: 3.3/5 this site
471 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/06/2014
Brux 24in 1:10 twist
165g Sierra HPBT GameKing
55.5g H4350
Win Large Rifle Primer
Lapua Brass
1/2in or better at 100yds
Rate now:
blg3006XCorporal
Rating: 3.0/5 this site
59 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/07/2014
200grn smk 52grns imr 4350 fed brass fed 215 match primer 3.34 oal.
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blg3006XCorporal
Rating: 3.0/5 this site
59 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/07/2014
50 grns. Imr 4064 165gr hornady btsp seated to the cannelure fed 210 primer rem brass
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BhobbsXPrivate
Rating: 0.0/5 this site
29 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/07/2014
I thought that was in the .308 Win. Either way, I am trying both the 208 A-Max and 215 Hybrid so I'm interested in your results.
Rate now:
blg3006XCorporal
Rating: 3.0/5 this site
59 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/07/2014
There's a guy getting 2700fps with a moly 208grn Amax with RL 17 out of a 20 IN. Barrel 30-06!!!!
Rate now:
GregLangeliusXFirst Sergeant
Rating: 3.4/5 this site
5017 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/10/2014 Last edited 11/17/2014 by GregLangelius
Followup on the 168SMK/165SGK 48.1gr IMR-4064 load as of yesterday, 10/9/14.
Performed/attempted sight-in with Ruger 77 MK I and Axis II XP.
The Ruger is very happy with the load, 200yd sight-in distance prints within a 3" dot, 150yd 1-2" high, 100yd, essentially right on again.
The Axis II XP is not liking this load, nor a previous handload, nor Hornady 150gr American Whitetail. Everything is opening up to about 6"-8" at 200yd, and that's not acceptable.
I will need to go over the rifle for issues, but that's for the coming Spring; this coming Saturday is Gun Season Opening Day.
When I did the initial sight-in, I discovered the ring mounting and clamping screws were mushy tight, and secured them more positively; this could be related the issue.
Greg
PS After Action NY Southern Zone Opening W/E 9/15+16/14:
I still got skunked, but at least I got a shot at fast mover. No contact established.
Later, saw five deer moving fast at about 200yd in a drive, but had 4 drivers in the brush somewhere behind them, no shot taken.
Six hunters/six deer, three of them brown/down by my Son-in-Law. One by 91/30 7.62x54Rwith HDY 150gr SP Interlock 303 handloads, one by M77 MK I 30-06 with 165 SGK handloads, one by Mossie 500 12ga Slug. Both handloads performed quite well, both shots were closer in.
Rate now:
GregLangeliusXFirst Sergeant
Rating: 3.4/5 this site
5017 posts this site
Re: 30-06
11/22/2014 Last edited 11/23/2014 by GregLangelius
We went back to the vineyard and hunted the same spot driving to me, as Opening Day last Saturday; and what looked like the same two does popped out of the vines about 50yd away from the last time. Took the same shot as last time; and this time, we connected, but I didn't know that at the time. Deer disappeared into the woods, and I waited the requisite 5 minutes while I went over the area where the deer was when I shot. No hair, no blood were found.
I tracked into the disturbed leaves about 50yd, but no hair, no blood anywhere. One of our young hunters RDV'd with me, and he had me stay put and began tracking. About 20yd past where I had stopped he signaled blood. and began a stealthy track. About 60ys further. the blood trail ended and the snow and ruffled leaves got chaotic; after abput 10 minutes wasted trying to pick up more blood we all came back and decided to drive the woods from the opposite end. Toward the end of the drive a small doe popped out and was taken. We went back and redrove the area the small doe came from, found mine, and dispatched same.
Dressed out, we went back to the barn, hung and skinned the two doe. Hung, it appears mine was one of the bigger deer taken so far this year, buck or doe. Guys who know more about this estimated her at around 130lb.
The shot placement was abaft of ideal. The terminal performance was very good, but nearly all of the blood was internal. We were fortunate to have eventually harvested this doe. But venison is venison, and tracking further, and persisting in the search are the lessons of the day. That's eight deer down and five were finished off by my Son-in-Law, including my doe.
A good day.
Greg
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GrantAXGunny Sergeant
Rating: 3.1/5 this site
814 posts this site
Re: 30-06
12/06/2014
forum.snipershide.info/showthread.php?t=15880
you're welcome
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tlfeathersXPrivate
Rating: 0.0/5 this site
36 posts this site
Re: 30-06
12/19/2014
Berger 210 gr VLD
Lake City 63 National Match Brass
50.4 gr. H4350
Winchester Large Rifle Primer
Bullet seated .003 off the rifling
Avg. velocity 2542 FPS
Rate now:
Overwatch260XSergeant
Rating: 3.3/5 this site
217 posts this site
Re: 30-06
12/30/2014
Lapua D46 185gr
Winchester brass
53.4 gr H4350
CCI200 primer
COAL 3.315"
Shoots extremely well in my '68 Winchester M70 Target