300 b.o. parts suggestions.

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I have an aero precision parchment builders set I think would only be fitting to build a sbr integral suppressed 300 black out with. Since the black out has been out for a few years now I thinks it's safe to see what's been working for everyone. Barrel length, twist rate bcg etc.
 
10.5" Rainier Ultramatch barrel is super accurate for me with 125smk and 125 TMK suppers... 7x5 agg 0.52" at 100yds and bangs steel at 500yds no problem. 2100fps with H110.

I run a SLR AGB and rubber city big with a spike heavy buffer. Runs super smooth and soft. I have a rugged Obsidian can on it. Pistol length gas.
 
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10.5" Rainier Ultramatch barrel is super accurate for me with 125smk and 125 TMK suppers... 7x5 agg 0.52" at 100yds and bangs steel at 500yds no problem. 2100fps with H110.

I run a SLR AGB and rubber city big with a spike heavy buffer. Runs super smooth and soft. I have a rugged Obsidian can on it. Pistol length gas.

Do you run anything subsonic? That's really my purpose for this. Thabks.
 
I'll suggest if you go for an adjustable gas block, the Superlative bleed-off block is amazing, compared to pretty much every other block on the market that just restricts flow. Much less fouling in my suppressed SBRs, and I *think* it even reduces blowback noise (unmeasured, and this stuff is so subjective anyway).

For subsonic applications, I like 1:7" barrels, over the more common 1:8 and 1:9 barrels on the market. Lot of discussion out there about that.

TBAC Ultra5 and Silencerco Osprey, here.

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Do you want to put a silencer on it or have an integrally suppressed rifle?

Integrally you are stuck with whatever is made and there are a few options.

just adding adding a silencer to 300 SBR has much better options.

I have built a couple and they are both pistol length 1:7". I have an 8" Aero Precision and a 16" noveske. The noveske is by far more accurate across the board. If I were to do it again the 8" would probably be a noveske or Pacnor. I dont run an AGB on either and get a lot of gas because of it.

I run carbine buffers, regular BCG and I have never had a problem from the guns only the ammo and that is mostly the federal brass I run spitting out primers.
 
I have a few .300 SBR's and I also have an Aero lower and couple uppers in the box (PM me if you interested in those, I'll let 'em go for a good price, just don't need 'em anymore). The lower is used some but very little, however, it does come complete minus trigger and buttstock.

With Form 1 rifles, I tend to use LMT, Noveske and now KAC lowers. Why? One guy pointed out why pay $200 tax on a $50 lower, that an SBR with one of the higher end lowers will be worth more down the road. Who knows? Most folks don't sell their NFA stuff so I guess you should use what floats your boat, but I'd use quality regardless. I don't plan on selling, but do like the idea of registering those vs. others.

As for the build, I've used nothing but Noveske barrels in .300BLK's and it's because 1. They work --they are reliable with supers and subs even with an 8.5"bbl. 2. They are accurate, generally 1MOA more or less, depending. 3. They're durable. 4. They work. Didn't I say this already? Can't be emphasized enough, they work with supers and subs, 110's to 220's (240's depending on twist) even mixed in the same mag. When I called Noveske, they wouldn't tell me the method for or the exact dimensions of the gas port in order to achieve this. This must be where they did their leg work. It would seem to me that given the .300BLK's attributes, that the barrel is more important than ever, because not only is it responsible for most all of the accuracy, it's now plays an integral role in the reliability of the functioning of the weapon.

Oh, I do have a 16" AAC upper I got a few years back. No complaints about it really, but it's also 16". I've heard short .300's can be finicky if the barrel isn't just so, which accounts for a lot of the adj. gas blocks I imagine. Wish I knew more about the other barrels but I honestly don't because once the Noveske performed the way it did, I never bothered to try anything else. Not for .300BLK SBR's anyway.

I have a recipe that works for me, I won't go into it, but the barrel and BCG account for what's important so the rest comes down to ergonomics and personal preference.
I use a TBAC Ultra 5 myself with an MVB stock and it functions fine, even with mixed supers and subs in the same mag. No adj. gas block, just the pinned gas block that comes with the Noveske barrel. I do use JP Ent. carriers and sometimes bolts on most all my rifles. The full weight JP carriers are by far the best I've used, slick as snot and really help with the reliability of the weapon.
 
I said integrally suppressed but I guess it would just be a standard setup with the hand guard covering Half of the supressor. The upper/lower hand guard set is the limited run 1776 American flag painted set. That why I think a silenced she would be fitting.
 
I said integrally suppressed but I guess it would just be a standard setup with the hand guard covering Half of the supressor. The upper/lower hand guard set is the limited run 1776 American flag painted set. That why I think a silenced she would be fitting.

Well you are in luck as Aero was smart enough to make them big enough to tuck a 1.5" silencer. One thing I will suggest is a hand stop so you don't injure yourself with a hot hand guard.

You might look at Superlative Arms for an adjustable gas block or piston system for the blow off feature to keep gas out of your face but not sure how that would work with a pistol length gas system.

High quality bolt like a JP. My experience shows it may not be needed but its something I would do if I was building another one just in case.

I would definitely recommend the Radian Raptor SD charging handle as that helps a lot with gas in the face.

 
Do you want to put a silencer on it or have an integrally suppressed rifle?

Integrally you are stuck with whatever is made and there are a few options.

just adding adding a silencer to 300 SBR has much better options.

I have built a couple and they are both pistol length 1:7". I have an 8" Aero Precision and a 16" noveske. The noveske is by far more accurate across the board. If I were to do it again the 8" would probably be a noveske or Pacnor. I dont run an AGB on either and get a lot of gas because of it.

I run carbine buffers, regular BCG and I have never had a problem from the guns only the ammo and that is mostly the federal brass I run spitting out primers.

What is your experience with that Aero Precision 8" ? If the Noveske is 1moa is the Aero a lot looser?
 
What is your experience with that Aero Precision 8" ? If the Noveske is 1moa is the Aero a lot looser?

My experience with the 8" is not as good as I would have hoped so far. I have tried hand loads Hornady 208 AMAX and 225 HPBT with 1680, the best I have gotten out of that was the 225's at about 1.5-2" @50yds. The Silencerco 208 AMAX ammo did about that good as well. I have two boxes of Silencerco 220 SMK that I still need to try though, maybe it doesn't like Hornady. I may do it this weekend and let you know. All this was with an MRO (2moa) red dot.

The noveske I shoot with supers and a vortex strike fire (4 moa) and get under MOA accuracy.

This makes me want to get a few different boxes of ammo to try out this weekend with both rifles.
 
My experience with the 8" is not as good as I would have hoped so far. I have tried hand loads Hornady 208 AMAX and 225 HPBT with 1680, the best I have gotten out of that was the 225's at about 1.5-2" @50yds. The Silencerco 208 AMAX ammo did about that good as well. I have two boxes of Silencerco 220 SMK that I still need to try though, maybe it doesn't like Hornady. I may do it this weekend and let you know. All this was with an MRO (2moa) red dot.

The noveske I shoot with supers and a vortex strike fire (4 moa) and get under MOA accuracy.

This makes me want to get a few different boxes of ammo to try out this weekend with both rifles.

Thanks for the info. I was eyeing a setup with an AP 8.5" but I think that type of accuracy would drive me nuts.. We get spoiled with sub-MOA accuracy in other ARs :) Maybe i will keep an eye out for a noveske setup..
 
I looked over on the 300 blk forum and people recomend the 8.3 BA Hanson barrel.

Look at rainier barrels as well they are made by the same guys that make noveske, or go to the source and get a PacNor.
 
Alright, so I went out and shot a few different factory loads from 208gr up to 220gr and the best I got with the 8" barrel was the 208 hornady black ammo and it was still 4-5" @100 yds.

I will say that Aero did buy Ballistic Advantage after I bought this barrel so maybe they are better. I will be replacing this barrel probably next year now.
 
Alright, so I went out and shot a few different factory loads from 208gr up to 220gr and the best I got with the 8" barrel was the 208 hornady black ammo and it was still 4-5" @100 yds.

I will say that Aero did buy Ballistic Advantage after I bought this barrel so maybe they are better. I will be replacing this barrel probably next year now.

Well I had heard that 300BO has ballistics similar to an AK but that is not what I thought they meant.. :)
 
So I ran all the same ammo plus some 150s through my Noveske barrel and it wasnt any different, withthe exception of 150 gr american eagle fmj which i had 4 touching at 100yds and then pulled the 5th shot. I wonder if 7 twist is not enough for some subs which is why Q is now using a faster twist than the original honey badger.
 
So I ran all the same ammo plus some 150s through my Noveske barrel and it wasnt any different, withthe exception of 150 gr american eagle fmj which i had 4 touching at 100yds and then pulled the 5th shot. I wonder if 7 twist is not enough for some subs which is why Q is now using a faster twist than the original honey badger.

are both your Noveske and Aero 1:7 twist barrels?