Anyone ever own/shoot the 330 Baer rifle made by Bruce Baer in PA. I'm going to look at a Baer Custom Rifle in 330 tomorrow price is off the chart low. It's not like I nee another rifle but the math looks like the thing might launch a 300 SMK to the other side of the state. I'm told it's a neck down version of the 416 Rigby. Mr. Baer's sight just says it's based on a 416, but does not list the case. Anyway it's got a 36" krieger tube and less than 100 rounds through it and I figure even if I don't like the 330 chamber, I'm not into brass forming, I could have it re-tooled to a 30" 338 Lapua mag. Just looking for some people's experience with the chartrige as I'm sure I'm end up buying it tomorrow. Donald
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Re: 330 Baer Custom ?
I don't get it?
That means there will be no resale. Zero.
No one else has one. Obviously no one else want this one.
You are one your own.
So is it now a super low price or a good price for something no one else is interested in?...hmm...
I don't get it?
That means there will be no resale. Zero.
No one else has one. Obviously no one else want this one.
You are one your own.
So is it now a super low price or a good price for something no one else is interested in?...hmm...
Re: 330 Baer Custom ?
For me the only way I could justify it is breaking it down into components--then forget about the barrel all together. If you can buy the rifle for less than the price of the action and stock then go for it. Is this rifle built on the Lawton action? Thats the only way I would find it a "steal".
For me the only way I could justify it is breaking it down into components--then forget about the barrel all together. If you can buy the rifle for less than the price of the action and stock then go for it. Is this rifle built on the Lawton action? Thats the only way I would find it a "steal".
Re: 330 Baer Custom ?
Bought it today.
Paid 2500 for it. Here's the brake down:
Hall E action, it’s the big mag action and maybe the B action but has an E with the S/N after the Hall name.
Krieger SS 36" .338 barrel 12 flute with custom brake. Only 30 rounds down range.
McMillan Big Mac stock
Trigger not sure of, maybe a Jewel but it's in a hanger that I'm not familiar with. It might be a custom job also.
Custom three screw barrel block also made by Mr. Baer
Custom 50 MOA base made by Mr. Baer
Kelby rings
Night Force 12x42 BR NPR2DD scope.
The rifle cost about 4 to 5 grand to build. Scope, rings and base would add another 1700 to that. So yes I bought it and if I don't like forming the brass I have more barrel than I need to make it a 338 Gibby and then rechamber again when that throat goes.
Also I knew I was going to buy it that's why I asked for input from those that have shot a 330 Baer. I don't see a down side with the price and quality of the rifle.
Brass I got with it is 416 Rigby made by Norma so that answers One question. Now to find more brass and proper dies.
I'll throw up some photos latter. Donald
Bought it today.
Paid 2500 for it. Here's the brake down:
Hall E action, it’s the big mag action and maybe the B action but has an E with the S/N after the Hall name.
Krieger SS 36" .338 barrel 12 flute with custom brake. Only 30 rounds down range.
McMillan Big Mac stock
Trigger not sure of, maybe a Jewel but it's in a hanger that I'm not familiar with. It might be a custom job also.
Custom three screw barrel block also made by Mr. Baer
Custom 50 MOA base made by Mr. Baer
Kelby rings
Night Force 12x42 BR NPR2DD scope.
The rifle cost about 4 to 5 grand to build. Scope, rings and base would add another 1700 to that. So yes I bought it and if I don't like forming the brass I have more barrel than I need to make it a 338 Gibby and then rechamber again when that throat goes.
Also I knew I was going to buy it that's why I asked for input from those that have shot a 330 Baer. I don't see a down side with the price and quality of the rifle.
Brass I got with it is 416 Rigby made by Norma so that answers One question. Now to find more brass and proper dies.
I'll throw up some photos latter. Donald
Re: 330 Baer Custom ?
Sounds nice Don when you coming down so the common folk can shoot you cool shit?
Sounds nice Don when you coming down so the common folk can shoot you cool shit?
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Hey Nut how are you?
Wish you guys were a bit closer. It's just too far for a day trip and I've not been able to get away from home lately for very long.
How's Turtle, not heard from him lately. I asked arround about the M1A but no ones got any money.
You sell anything lately?
I had to sell some stuff myself to get this rig. The guy has a very nice 6.5 Lindsey forsale also. It's a 700 built by Bob Pierson and is based on the 300 WSM. Heavy Lilja barrel, Custom Australian Tiger Wood stock, and a Night Force NXS 8.5 x 32 that's NIB for 2500. I have to many 1000 yard rifles or I would have grab this one to. It shoots 17 MOA from 100 to 1000. Just a flat out screamer. Donald
Hey Nut how are you?
Wish you guys were a bit closer. It's just too far for a day trip and I've not been able to get away from home lately for very long.
How's Turtle, not heard from him lately. I asked arround about the M1A but no ones got any money.
You sell anything lately?
I had to sell some stuff myself to get this rig. The guy has a very nice 6.5 Lindsey forsale also. It's a 700 built by Bob Pierson and is based on the 300 WSM. Heavy Lilja barrel, Custom Australian Tiger Wood stock, and a Night Force NXS 8.5 x 32 that's NIB for 2500. I have to many 1000 yard rifles or I would have grab this one to. It shoots 17 MOA from 100 to 1000. Just a flat out screamer. Donald
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Don in SC-
How much difference is there with a .338LM and the .330 Baer?
How is Bruce doing?Its been a couple years since I have shot with him.I saw a .375/408 he built that was something else.It sounds like you got a good buy.
van
Don in SC-
How much difference is there with a .338LM and the .330 Baer?
How is Bruce doing?Its been a couple years since I have shot with him.I saw a .375/408 he built that was something else.It sounds like you got a good buy.
van
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Sounds like did get a good deal - congrats. Make sure to post up some pics. Also would be interested in hearing some more ballistics about the round. How fast is it spitting out the 300's?
Sounds like did get a good deal - congrats. Make sure to post up some pics. Also would be interested in hearing some more ballistics about the round. How fast is it spitting out the 300's?
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I've only contacted Mr. Baer by email so I can't speak for his health, but he has been very nice to me about my questions on this rifle.
The 330 Baer is larger than a straight up 338LM. If I rechamber the rifle I'll go with the 338 Gibby which is a 338LM with straight walls. That's still not as large a case as the Baer but it's far more than I need to shoot out to a mile. The diferrence is not quite as extreme as the 30-06 and 308 but something about half of that is what your looking at. Here's a link to Mr. Baers web sight. There's not allot of info on the cartridge which is why I asked here. Mr. Baer has made many national and world record rifles so I was hoping some of the guys here had some expierence with it. Donald
http://www.baercustomrifles.com/
How about a photo. GI issue 30-06 and 330 Baer side by side.
I've only contacted Mr. Baer by email so I can't speak for his health, but he has been very nice to me about my questions on this rifle.
The 330 Baer is larger than a straight up 338LM. If I rechamber the rifle I'll go with the 338 Gibby which is a 338LM with straight walls. That's still not as large a case as the Baer but it's far more than I need to shoot out to a mile. The diferrence is not quite as extreme as the 30-06 and 308 but something about half of that is what your looking at. Here's a link to Mr. Baers web sight. There's not allot of info on the cartridge which is why I asked here. Mr. Baer has made many national and world record rifles so I was hoping some of the guys here had some expierence with it. Donald
http://www.baercustomrifles.com/
How about a photo. GI issue 30-06 and 330 Baer side by side.
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Don I know what you mean. Maybe we can get up your way after the holidays. I have not gotten rid of anything. Well sounds like you got a heck of a deal and one nice rifle. Take care.
Nutt
Don I know what you mean. Maybe we can get up your way after the holidays. I have not gotten rid of anything. Well sounds like you got a heck of a deal and one nice rifle. Take care.
Nutt
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Can't say for sure what the speed will be with the 300 SMK until I get brass and dies. I have not heard of anyone using a 36 inch barrel with this cartridge so it's going to be all new data for me. I emailed Mr. Baer with the S/N and hope he can provide more data on this rifle and what I need to get going quickly. Most likely I want be able to shoot her until Feb or Mar as I need brass and bullets and dies to get started.
Nut you guys always welcome to come and shoot with us. Me and Jim have tappered off some because of weather but that will change and we'll be back at it two or three times a week soon.
Donald
Can't say for sure what the speed will be with the 300 SMK until I get brass and dies. I have not heard of anyone using a 36 inch barrel with this cartridge so it's going to be all new data for me. I emailed Mr. Baer with the S/N and hope he can provide more data on this rifle and what I need to get going quickly. Most likely I want be able to shoot her until Feb or Mar as I need brass and bullets and dies to get started.
Nut you guys always welcome to come and shoot with us. Me and Jim have tappered off some because of weather but that will change and we'll be back at it two or three times a week soon.
Donald
Re: 330 Baer Custom ?
Got some pictures today. This is the rifle from Baer Custom Rifles. Cal. 330 Baer. I realy like this rig.
Same gun with my NM M1A for size.
Got some pictures today. This is the rifle from Baer Custom Rifles. Cal. 330 Baer. I realy like this rig.
Same gun with my NM M1A for size.
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Looks like you practically stole the thing if you got it with the scope!
The recoil on it should be low with weight and muzzle brake.
I like it!
Steve
Looks like you practically stole the thing if you got it with the scope!
The recoil on it should be low with weight and muzzle brake.
I like it!
Steve
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Steve it came as you see it. Scope, rings, mount and rifle. Got to find some 416 Rigby brass so I can make some ammo for her. Donald
Steve it came as you see it. Scope, rings, mount and rifle. Got to find some 416 Rigby brass so I can make some ammo for her. Donald
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WOW!!! Don that is a steal if you got it like that in the pic. Ive heard of this cartridge before but cant remember where maybe longrangehunting.com I believe a poster that goes by "long time longranger" has or has shot this caliber.
I have a 30-416 Rigby Imp. I like it but the brass forming etc. is a bit tiresome at times. Goodluck with your new rifle and let us know how she does.
Aloha!
WOW!!! Don that is a steal if you got it like that in the pic. Ive heard of this cartridge before but cant remember where maybe longrangehunting.com I believe a poster that goes by "long time longranger" has or has shot this caliber.
I have a 30-416 Rigby Imp. I like it but the brass forming etc. is a bit tiresome at times. Goodluck with your new rifle and let us know how she does.
Aloha!
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Yea you stole it! You paid for a scope with stock and work on the stock. The rest you got for nothing.... The 330 is just a 338lm with about 20 more grains of case cap. Its basicly the same thing as the 30-416 IMP. I bet its a turn neck chambering though.
Yea you stole it! You paid for a scope with stock and work on the stock. The rest you got for nothing.... The 330 is just a 338lm with about 20 more grains of case cap. Its basicly the same thing as the 30-416 IMP. I bet its a turn neck chambering though.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Don in SC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got some pictures today. This is the rifle from Baer Custom Rifles. Cal. 330 Baer. I realy like this rig.
Same gun with my NM M1A for size.
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Im thinking that once you start shooting it at a mile.You'll end up selling all your other long range rifles.Bruce is the man.
Great deal
dave
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Don in SC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got some pictures today. This is the rifle from Baer Custom Rifles. Cal. 330 Baer. I realy like this rig.
Same gun with my NM M1A for size.
Im thinking that once you start shooting it at a mile.You'll end up selling all your other long range rifles.Bruce is the man.
Great deal
dave
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I may shoot it more than the other long range rifles but I'm thinking I'll keep the others for insurance. A good rifle and ammo may get to be worth more than its weight in gold if things get as bad as some to the Economist say they can. Anyway I believe NotAGuru is correct as to the cartridge is a 338/416 Rigby. I'm going to check out a friend’s 338/416 this week to see how close mine and his rifles are. Here's a picture of the 330 Baer, the 338 Gibby (Lapua Mag. Improve) and the 338 Lapua Magnum. It's quite a bit larger externally. I have no idea the internal difference but I believe 3200 fps for the 300 SMK is not out of the question and maybe even more if the conditions and hand loads are built carefully.
I may shoot it more than the other long range rifles but I'm thinking I'll keep the others for insurance. A good rifle and ammo may get to be worth more than its weight in gold if things get as bad as some to the Economist say they can. Anyway I believe NotAGuru is correct as to the cartridge is a 338/416 Rigby. I'm going to check out a friend’s 338/416 this week to see how close mine and his rifles are. Here's a picture of the 330 Baer, the 338 Gibby (Lapua Mag. Improve) and the 338 Lapua Magnum. It's quite a bit larger externally. I have no idea the internal difference but I believe 3200 fps for the 300 SMK is not out of the question and maybe even more if the conditions and hand loads are built carefully.
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Hey Don,
not to steal the thread but the 6.5 lindsey cartridge sounds interesting, 300WSM necked down to 6.5 or is it a bit more complicated then that? im building a rifle that i can use for tactical matches that im getting interested, and im also thinking about a .338, that baer looks good too, gonna check that website out...
Hey Don,
not to steal the thread but the 6.5 lindsey cartridge sounds interesting, 300WSM necked down to 6.5 or is it a bit more complicated then that? im building a rifle that i can use for tactical matches that im getting interested, and im also thinking about a .338, that baer looks good too, gonna check that website out...
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The 6.5 Lindsey is longer than a wssm and shorter than a wsm. Keith Lindsey decided he wanted more case than a wssm would give him but not as much as the wsm. So you start with a wsm case, I think the 270 would be the best, and work the shoulder back a 1/4 inch or so and you end up the Lindsey. There are about four rifles’ I know of built like this and they shoot 142 SMK's at something like 3800 fps. Keith told me he has got as much as 4000 fsp out of the case but the bullets will not take the stress. They shoot about 17 to 19 moa from 100 to 1000 yards. I can’t see the throat on a round like that lasting very long but if you need a flat shooting gun then that would be a good candidate. I would just open the chamber up myself if it was mine to 6.5 wsm as that would be allot less work to make brass for.
Bruce Baer is well known in the long range BR shooter circles. He builds great rifles and is making some very nice stocks and a one piece rest that is a work of art. He has allot of different cartridges that he makes on the 300 win mag, 416 Rigby and the 404 Jeffery. Donald
The 6.5 Lindsey is longer than a wssm and shorter than a wsm. Keith Lindsey decided he wanted more case than a wssm would give him but not as much as the wsm. So you start with a wsm case, I think the 270 would be the best, and work the shoulder back a 1/4 inch or so and you end up the Lindsey. There are about four rifles’ I know of built like this and they shoot 142 SMK's at something like 3800 fps. Keith told me he has got as much as 4000 fsp out of the case but the bullets will not take the stress. They shoot about 17 to 19 moa from 100 to 1000 yards. I can’t see the throat on a round like that lasting very long but if you need a flat shooting gun then that would be a good candidate. I would just open the chamber up myself if it was mine to 6.5 wsm as that would be allot less work to make brass for.
Bruce Baer is well known in the long range BR shooter circles. He builds great rifles and is making some very nice stocks and a one piece rest that is a work of art. He has allot of different cartridges that he makes on the 300 win mag, 416 Rigby and the 404 Jeffery. Donald
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Don in SC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 6.5 Lindsey is longer than a wssm and shorter than a wsm. Keith Lindsey decided he wanted more case than a wssm would give him but not as much as the wsm. So you start with a wsm case, I think the 270 would be the best, and work the shoulder back a 1/4 inch or so and you end up the Lindsey. There are about four rifles’ I know of built like this and they shoot 142 SMK's at something like 3800 fps. Keith told me he has got as much as 4000 fsp out of the case but the bullets will not take the stress. They shoot about 17 to 19 moa from 100 to 1000 yards. I can’t see the throat on a round like that lasting very long but if you need a flat shooting gun then that would be a good candidate. I would just open the chamber up myself if it was mine to 6.5 wsm as that would be allot less work to make brass for.
Bruce Baer is well known in the long range BR shooter circles. He builds great rifles and is making some very nice stocks and a one piece rest that is a work of art. He has allot of different cartridges that he makes on the 300 win mag, 416 Rigby and the 404 Jeffery. Donald
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Excatly. Why would you want a nice tactical rifle that lasts less then about 500 rounds? If you want a good practical or tactical rifle in 6.5 then get a 6.5x47, 6.5/284, 260 rem, or a 6.5X55 swede. You can get lapua brass for all of these and even the 260 brass now can be made and have a small rifle primer....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Don in SC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 6.5 Lindsey is longer than a wssm and shorter than a wsm. Keith Lindsey decided he wanted more case than a wssm would give him but not as much as the wsm. So you start with a wsm case, I think the 270 would be the best, and work the shoulder back a 1/4 inch or so and you end up the Lindsey. There are about four rifles’ I know of built like this and they shoot 142 SMK's at something like 3800 fps. Keith told me he has got as much as 4000 fsp out of the case but the bullets will not take the stress. They shoot about 17 to 19 moa from 100 to 1000 yards. I can’t see the throat on a round like that lasting very long but if you need a flat shooting gun then that would be a good candidate. I would just open the chamber up myself if it was mine to 6.5 wsm as that would be allot less work to make brass for.
Bruce Baer is well known in the long range BR shooter circles. He builds great rifles and is making some very nice stocks and a one piece rest that is a work of art. He has allot of different cartridges that he makes on the 300 win mag, 416 Rigby and the 404 Jeffery. Donald
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Excatly. Why would you want a nice tactical rifle that lasts less then about 500 rounds? If you want a good practical or tactical rifle in 6.5 then get a 6.5x47, 6.5/284, 260 rem, or a 6.5X55 swede. You can get lapua brass for all of these and even the 260 brass now can be made and have a small rifle primer....
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Good point on the new 308 brass with small primer! Most 260 chambers will require that you neck turn the 308 Lapua brass though. I have had to turn in every 260 I've had with minimum SAAMI spec chambers. They would chamber, but it took a little force.
Good point on the new 308 brass with small primer! Most 260 chambers will require that you neck turn the 308 Lapua brass though. I have had to turn in every 260 I've had with minimum SAAMI spec chambers. They would chamber, but it took a little force.
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I don't think anyone would think a wild cat like the 6.5 Lindsey would be a good choice for a tactical rifle round. I know I never said it would be. Keith and the guys on the west side of GA shoot IBS and other long range matches. The 6.5 Lindsey may be a answer looking for a question but many cartidges used today have thier start as a wild cat. I'm not going to throw rocks at someone for trying something new. Anyway those guys are looking for speed as many others do also to beat the wind and this round will do that.
To return to target and re-hyjack my thread. Anyone have any info on the 330 Baer or the 338/416 they want to share?
I don't think anyone would think a wild cat like the 6.5 Lindsey would be a good choice for a tactical rifle round. I know I never said it would be. Keith and the guys on the west side of GA shoot IBS and other long range matches. The 6.5 Lindsey may be a answer looking for a question but many cartidges used today have thier start as a wild cat. I'm not going to throw rocks at someone for trying something new. Anyway those guys are looking for speed as many others do also to beat the wind and this round will do that.
To return to target and re-hyjack my thread. Anyone have any info on the 330 Baer or the 338/416 they want to share?
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