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338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
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Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
I would pick 338 lapua. You will shoot it more it really will give you enough effective range and pract. can configure in a lighter rifle.
I would pick 338 lapua. You will shoot it more it really will give you enough effective range and pract. can configure in a lighter rifle.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
338 cheypua. just kidding
i like the 338 lapua for cost of shooting only
it will shoot far enough for me
but i am going to build both.
just because i can.
338 cheypua. just kidding
i like the 338 lapua for cost of shooting only
it will shoot far enough for me
but i am going to build both.
just because i can.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
what id really like to fart around with is the 416 barret.
but i dont hear much about it any more.
what id really like to fart around with is the 416 barret.
but i dont hear much about it any more.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
Well since we are opening up caliber selection, I would and I am building a 375 Chey-Tac and you can hunt with it in Idaho
Well since we are opening up caliber selection, I would and I am building a 375 Chey-Tac and you can hunt with it in Idaho
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
The reason you do not here about it is they really screwed up by releasing it then no one could get ammo. also barrets suck on accuracy
The reason you do not here about it is they really screwed up by releasing it then no one could get ammo. also barrets suck on accuracy
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
If I had to choose between the .338 and the .408, I would pick the .338. However, if they .375 was in the mix, I would choose that.
If I had to choose between the .338 and the .408, I would pick the .338. However, if they .375 was in the mix, I would choose that.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
This would be a great subject to revisit once Berger comes out with their 338 vlds.
This would be a great subject to revisit once Berger comes out with their 338 vlds.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
The "ONE" you got.It's paid for.LOL.
Cheaper to shoot,less recoil,only goes subsonic about 300 yards earlier.
If you have a fast twist on your 338L then you can shoot the Hooker solids.338 - 270 grain,10 twist,.871 BC or the Lehigh 245 grain .869 BC.
You should be able to crank the 245's to 3000 fps but the Hookers work better in my 375 CT.Which by the way stays sonic to 2850 yards up here in Flag.
Steve
The "ONE" you got.It's paid for.LOL.
Cheaper to shoot,less recoil,only goes subsonic about 300 yards earlier.
If you have a fast twist on your 338L then you can shoot the Hooker solids.338 - 270 grain,10 twist,.871 BC or the Lehigh 245 grain .869 BC.
You should be able to crank the 245's to 3000 fps but the Hookers work better in my 375 CT.Which by the way stays sonic to 2850 yards up here in Flag.
Steve
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">The "ONE" you got.It's paid for.LOL.</span></span>Cheaper to shoot,less recoil,only goes subsonic about 300 yards earlier.
If you have a fast twist on your 338L then you can shoot the Hooker solids.338 - 270 grain,10 twist,.871 BC or the Lehigh 245 grain .869 BC.
You should be able to crank the 245's to 3000 fps but the Hookers work better in my 375 CT.Which by the way stays sonic to 2850 yards up here in Flag.
Steve </div></div>
I hear you Steve. Just wondering that's all.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: steve123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">The "ONE" you got.It's paid for.LOL.</span></span>Cheaper to shoot,less recoil,only goes subsonic about 300 yards earlier.
If you have a fast twist on your 338L then you can shoot the Hooker solids.338 - 270 grain,10 twist,.871 BC or the Lehigh 245 grain .869 BC.
You should be able to crank the 245's to 3000 fps but the Hookers work better in my 375 CT.Which by the way stays sonic to 2850 yards up here in Flag.
Steve </div></div>
I hear you Steve. Just wondering that's all.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
338LM is my choice it starts running out of gas at 1 mile and the cheytac still has half a tank left. Out to 1500 yards they perform very similarly. The cheytac cartridges will bring your rifles weight over 20 lbs the 338lM will keep it under 16 if you get the right one.
338LM is my choice it starts running out of gas at 1 mile and the cheytac still has half a tank left. Out to 1500 yards they perform very similarly. The cheytac cartridges will bring your rifles weight over 20 lbs the 338lM will keep it under 16 if you get the right one.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
I'll play devil's advocate and vote for .338/408 Chey-Tac. Of course thats only because .375CT and .300WM aren't in the list >.>
I'll play devil's advocate and vote for .338/408 Chey-Tac. Of course thats only because .375CT and .300WM aren't in the list >.>
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DesertHK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just for curiosity, what is the probability of a 1st, or 2nd shot hit at an "iron maiden" size target at 2000 + yards? </div></div>
Depends on the shooter and how well he knows the weapon.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DesertHK</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just for curiosity, what is the probability of a 1st, or 2nd shot hit at an "iron maiden" size target at 2000 + yards? </div></div>
Depends on the shooter and how well he knows the weapon.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
you can use a 408 in Idaho as long as its under 16 lbs. but Im not shooting it if its under 16 lbs
you can use a 408 in Idaho as long as its under 16 lbs. but Im not shooting it if its under 16 lbs
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
338 lap for sure based on those two cal's only. For practical purposes it will shoot further accurately than most shooters ability will allow. Far lighter to pack and puts a big enough hole in most things.... Sure if you only shot 1500 plus and were vehicle based.. then it might be different ?
DUH
338 lap for sure based on those two cal's only. For practical purposes it will shoot further accurately than most shooters ability will allow. Far lighter to pack and puts a big enough hole in most things.... Sure if you only shot 1500 plus and were vehicle based.. then it might be different ?
DUH
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
Good discussion. I went with the Lapua.
Very satisfied with all aspects.
Good discussion. I went with the Lapua.
Very satisfied with all aspects.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: distantfoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This would be a great subject to revisit once Berger comes out with their 338 vlds.</div></div>
It matters none. the ballistic advantage will still go to the 408!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sr90</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you already have a 338LM get a 375CT it will go 2700+ yards.</div></div>
Absolutely!!!
DesertHK:
You already know my stance on the 338, 375, and 408 so no need for me to repeat it here
you gonna be at SHOT SHOW?
thanks
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: distantfoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This would be a great subject to revisit once Berger comes out with their 338 vlds.</div></div>
It matters none. the ballistic advantage will still go to the 408!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sr90</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you already have a 338LM get a 375CT it will go 2700+ yards.</div></div>
Absolutely!!!
DesertHK:
You already know my stance on the 338, 375, and 408 so no need for me to repeat it here
you gonna be at SHOT SHOW?
thanks
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
Usually in these type of discussions I'll go with the cartridge that fulfills my needs AND has the more readily available factory ammunition. The CheyTac is more of a reloader's cartridge and still kind of a rare bird; the 338 Lapua is a well known and well understood cartridge and you can get damned good factory loads from more outlets than the CheyTac.
If you want to discuss it further, you bring the beer.
Usually in these type of discussions I'll go with the cartridge that fulfills my needs AND has the more readily available factory ammunition. The CheyTac is more of a reloader's cartridge and still kind of a rare bird; the 338 Lapua is a well known and well understood cartridge and you can get damned good factory loads from more outlets than the CheyTac.
If you want to discuss it further, you bring the beer.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
Buy a Windrunner M-96 receiver and have both. I did, Two barrels, two bolts one reciever, one scope. Best of both worlds.
Buy a Windrunner M-96 receiver and have both. I did, Two barrels, two bolts one reciever, one scope. Best of both worlds.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
My pick from these two: 338LM
Reasons:
Factory ammo available from several companies
Factory brass available from several companies
Good bullets available from several companies
Rifles can be kept portable both weight and sizewise
Can be used out to 1600-1700 meters easy and with 250 Scenars 2000m is within reach even though the bullet goes to subsonic speed way before 2000m.
The question should really be which one to choose 408 or 50 BMG. Both are heavy, specialized and expensive to shoot.
Try shooting groups or reactive targets from the knee or stading with 338LM, 408 and .50 BMG. The latter two are prone-only if you really want to hit anything.
338LM can be used as a rifle. 408 or 50 BMG can not really.
My pick from these two: 338LM
Reasons:
Factory ammo available from several companies
Factory brass available from several companies
Good bullets available from several companies
Rifles can be kept portable both weight and sizewise
Can be used out to 1600-1700 meters easy and with 250 Scenars 2000m is within reach even though the bullet goes to subsonic speed way before 2000m.
The question should really be which one to choose 408 or 50 BMG. Both are heavy, specialized and expensive to shoot.
Try shooting groups or reactive targets from the knee or stading with 338LM, 408 and .50 BMG. The latter two are prone-only if you really want to hit anything.
338LM can be used as a rifle. 408 or 50 BMG can not really.
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Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
I have been shooting a 338 Edge, 375/408 and a 338/408 Snipe-tac. In my opinion the 375 or the 338 Snipe-tac would be manageable at 13 lbs. I intend to build such a rifle very soon. If you are into first rd hits on yonder mountian this is where its at AND in a package lighter than many 308 Sniper rifles. Long eye relief scopes will probably be a good idea on this class of rifle. As long as it dont slap you in the face the recoil shouldnt be a problem. We will see.
I have been shooting a 338 Edge, 375/408 and a 338/408 Snipe-tac. In my opinion the 375 or the 338 Snipe-tac would be manageable at 13 lbs. I intend to build such a rifle very soon. If you are into first rd hits on yonder mountian this is where its at AND in a package lighter than many 308 Sniper rifles. Long eye relief scopes will probably be a good idea on this class of rifle. As long as it dont slap you in the face the recoil shouldnt be a problem. We will see.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
what has been your experience with the edge? i have a lefty 700 that is chambered for the .300 RUM and am thinking of a rebarrel job, wondering what my options might be? or should i spend the money and get a lefthanded stiller tac.338 and build with a lapua or norma chambering?
what has been your experience with the edge? i have a lefty 700 that is chambered for the .300 RUM and am thinking of a rebarrel job, wondering what my options might be? or should i spend the money and get a lefthanded stiller tac.338 and build with a lapua or norma chambering?
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Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
My Edge is built on a Nesika action. There are a lot of nice Edges built on 700 long actions. Shawn Carlock seems to be the go to guy for this kind of work although I am sure any good smithy can do the job. I really like the Edge because I also have a 300 Ultra. I can use the same brass, its just a matter of running a tapered 338 expander ball through the neck and FL through the Edge die. There is usually .004-.005 runout on loaded rds after these procedures and the best accuracy kicks in on the second firing. The one I have now shoots nice, usually in the .2 to .3 range. Your options are endless, it just depends on how much you want to spend. Custom actions are nice but not a necessity. The best shooting most consistant rifle I own is a 308 Rem 660 action with a Broughton 5c #4 barrel built by Jared Joplin. It was supposed to be a kick-around rifle to haul around in the truck. It turned out to be one of my most prized possessions. If you put a good barrel on your 700, bed it in a good stock, there is a good chance it will shoot as well as any. As far as which case. The EDge will hang with about anything until you get into the 408 based rds.
My Edge is built on a Nesika action. There are a lot of nice Edges built on 700 long actions. Shawn Carlock seems to be the go to guy for this kind of work although I am sure any good smithy can do the job. I really like the Edge because I also have a 300 Ultra. I can use the same brass, its just a matter of running a tapered 338 expander ball through the neck and FL through the Edge die. There is usually .004-.005 runout on loaded rds after these procedures and the best accuracy kicks in on the second firing. The one I have now shoots nice, usually in the .2 to .3 range. Your options are endless, it just depends on how much you want to spend. Custom actions are nice but not a necessity. The best shooting most consistant rifle I own is a 308 Rem 660 action with a Broughton 5c #4 barrel built by Jared Joplin. It was supposed to be a kick-around rifle to haul around in the truck. It turned out to be one of my most prized possessions. If you put a good barrel on your 700, bed it in a good stock, there is a good chance it will shoot as well as any. As far as which case. The EDge will hang with about anything until you get into the 408 based rds.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1000 YDS. IS FUN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Buy a Windrunner M-96 receiver and have both. I did, Two barrels, two bolts one reciever, one scope. Best of both worlds. </div></div>
Now there's a man with a brain. Shoulda thunka that myself.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 1000 YDS. IS FUN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Buy a Windrunner M-96 receiver and have both. I did, Two barrels, two bolts one reciever, one scope. Best of both worlds. </div></div>
Now there's a man with a brain. Shoulda thunka that myself.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadeyeky</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ok, i thinkim gonna save some money and go with the edge, go take a look at the .375 CT thread with the pics of a chassis stock, gonna get me one of them made and a 5 axis cnc mill here in town... </div></div>
Speaking of the 338 edge, how readily available are the reamers and dies?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: deadeyeky</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ok, i thinkim gonna save some money and go with the edge, go take a look at the .375 CT thread with the pics of a chassis stock, gonna get me one of them made and a 5 axis cnc mill here in town... </div></div>
Speaking of the 338 edge, how readily available are the reamers and dies?
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
Cost wise .338 lapua (which is what I am saving up for). .408 is about 8 dollars a round you can find factory .338 loads for 3 dollars a round.
Cost wise .338 lapua (which is what I am saving up for). .408 is about 8 dollars a round you can find factory .338 loads for 3 dollars a round.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cost wise .338 lapua (which is what I am saving up for). .408 is about 8 dollars a round you can find factory .338 loads for 3 dollars a round. </div></div>
Where have you found 338 lapua for $3 a round?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cost wise .338 lapua (which is what I am saving up for). .408 is about 8 dollars a round you can find factory .338 loads for 3 dollars a round. </div></div>
Where have you found 338 lapua for $3 a round?
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
HSM ammo on Snipercentral.com you can buy it for 58 dollars a box of 20.
HSM ammo on Snipercentral.com you can buy it for 58 dollars a box of 20.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cost wise .338 lapua (which is what I am saving up for). .408 is about 8 dollars a round you can find factory .338 loads for 3 dollars a round. </div></div>
Where have you found 338 lapua for $3 a round? </div></div>
Reloading for a 375 cheytac is gonna cost you much less then $3 a round. Then you always have the options of shooting the solids for just a little bit more per round.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cost wise .338 lapua (which is what I am saving up for). .408 is about 8 dollars a round you can find factory .338 loads for 3 dollars a round. </div></div>
Where have you found 338 lapua for $3 a round? </div></div>
Reloading for a 375 cheytac is gonna cost you much less then $3 a round. Then you always have the options of shooting the solids for just a little bit more per round.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">HSM ammo on Snipercentral.com you can buy it for 58 dollars a box of 20. </div></div>
Is that good ammo?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">HSM ammo on Snipercentral.com you can buy it for 58 dollars a box of 20. </div></div>
Is that good ammo?
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
yeah i like it works great. Just out of curiousity where can you find .375 brass and who makes the bullets for it? I heard Seirra had a 350gr SMK for it.
yeah i like it works great. Just out of curiousity where can you find .375 brass and who makes the bullets for it? I heard Seirra had a 350gr SMK for it.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
I am building a 416 barrett on all match grade componets. i even had a reamer made for a tight neck chamber. i will give you all an update with my findings. it should be here any day! I talked with Dave from lehigh bullets and he said that a customer reported 3400FPS with a 416 grain bullet which produced a 23 inch group at 3000 yards. i need to see that to believe it but the velocity seems good and the case is awesome it should be fun.
I am building a 416 barrett on all match grade componets. i even had a reamer made for a tight neck chamber. i will give you all an update with my findings. it should be here any day! I talked with Dave from lehigh bullets and he said that a customer reported 3400FPS with a 416 grain bullet which produced a 23 inch group at 3000 yards. i need to see that to believe it but the velocity seems good and the case is awesome it should be fun.
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
Its funny, I just had the exact same conversation with a guy very involved in the industry - specifically 408 long guns and this is what he had to say.
338-408 or 338lm straight up.
Reasons -
Cost = lower so you get to shoot more which is the fastest and best way to improve your chances of smashing plate at distances of a mile+.
availability - Always a concern if you want to shoot frequently. Also, in the event of the zombie apocalypse the 338 rounds will be easier to come by. (always a concern.)
application - Honestly unless you are taking out targets behind armored doors at distances close to a mile+, or attempting to stop incoming vbieds you probably dont need the 408. The 338 projectile is more than capable for long range shooting/hunting.
Id save the dough and go some varient of the 338.
Justin - FNG here on the hide
Its funny, I just had the exact same conversation with a guy very involved in the industry - specifically 408 long guns and this is what he had to say.
338-408 or 338lm straight up.
Reasons -
Cost = lower so you get to shoot more which is the fastest and best way to improve your chances of smashing plate at distances of a mile+.
availability - Always a concern if you want to shoot frequently. Also, in the event of the zombie apocalypse the 338 rounds will be easier to come by. (always a concern.)
application - Honestly unless you are taking out targets behind armored doors at distances close to a mile+, or attempting to stop incoming vbieds you probably dont need the 408. The 338 projectile is more than capable for long range shooting/hunting.
Id save the dough and go some varient of the 338.
Justin - FNG here on the hide
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
I've owned both and I would choose the .338 Lapua over the standard .408
The .338 Lapua I just built this summer I've shot out past 2400 yards with great accuracy.(YouTube video somewhere here on hide) Recoil is not bad with FTE and better with SHARKS "Jaws" suppressor hanging off the end of it. I will post some pics. Not a bad price per round IF you reload and it will always be more accurate than a .408 out to a mile on paper.
Now not part of your question...the 338/408 is a good choice....but I would still choose the standard .338 over it also for many reasons. IF and that's IF I had to choose only one.
The .375/408 is bad ass for sure and very accurate. But most of what we've seen here at TVP (customers/clients) the 338/408 groups better on paper at 1000 yards as well as a MILE. Keep in mind these rifles are built more for bench shooting than TRUE field tactical rifles so there always going to be more accurate on paper than others. One of the beautys of BR it's shows the TRUE potential of accuracy for a given cartridge.
Hope this helps...
Tom
TVP
I've owned both and I would choose the .338 Lapua over the standard .408
The .338 Lapua I just built this summer I've shot out past 2400 yards with great accuracy.(YouTube video somewhere here on hide) Recoil is not bad with FTE and better with SHARKS "Jaws" suppressor hanging off the end of it. I will post some pics. Not a bad price per round IF you reload and it will always be more accurate than a .408 out to a mile on paper.
Now not part of your question...the 338/408 is a good choice....but I would still choose the standard .338 over it also for many reasons. IF and that's IF I had to choose only one.
The .375/408 is bad ass for sure and very accurate. But most of what we've seen here at TVP (customers/clients) the 338/408 groups better on paper at 1000 yards as well as a MILE. Keep in mind these rifles are built more for bench shooting than TRUE field tactical rifles so there always going to be more accurate on paper than others. One of the beautys of BR it's shows the TRUE potential of accuracy for a given cartridge.
Hope this helps...
Tom
TVP
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NotAGuru ⊕</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cost wise .338 lapua (which is what I am saving up for). .408 is about 8 dollars a round you can find factory .338 loads for 3 dollars a round. </div></div>
Where have you found 338 lapua for $3 a round? </div></div>
Reloading for a 375 cheytac is gonna cost you much less then $3 a round. Then you always have the options of shooting the solids for just a little bit more per round. </div></div>
Reloading th .338lm is about 1$ a round. I pick .338. now if yourr paying for ammo, id go .408
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NotAGuru ⊕</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cost wise .338 lapua (which is what I am saving up for). .408 is about 8 dollars a round you can find factory .338 loads for 3 dollars a round. </div></div>
Where have you found 338 lapua for $3 a round? </div></div>
Reloading for a 375 cheytac is gonna cost you much less then $3 a round. Then you always have the options of shooting the solids for just a little bit more per round. </div></div>
Reloading th .338lm is about 1$ a round. I pick .338. now if yourr paying for ammo, id go .408
Re: 338 LM vs. 408 Chey Tac
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: burnzone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its funny, I just had the exact same conversation with a guy very involved in the industry - specifically 408 long guns and this is what he had to say.
338-408 or 338lm straight up.
Reasons -
Cost = lower so you get to shoot more which is the fastest and best way to improve your chances of smashing plate at distances of a mile+.
availability - Always a concern if you want to shoot frequently. Also, in the event of the zombie apocalypse the 338 rounds will be easier to come by. (always a concern.)
application - Honestly unless you are taking out targets behind armored doors at distances close to a mile+, or attempting to stop incoming vbieds you probably dont need the 408. The 338 projectile is more than capable for long range shooting/hunting.
Id save the dough and go some varient of the 338.
Justin - FNG here on the hide
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I have to dissagree here. When it comes down to it the 338/408 is gonna cost penny's more then the 338 lapua. Your shooting the same bullets and the brass is almost the same price. The difference between powder is 35-40 grains per round. Which does add up but the performance is tough to beat. Yes the barrel wont last as long but you wont get every 338 LM to strech out past 1800 unless you set it up more like a br gun and shoot very specific high bc solid bullets.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: burnzone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Its funny, I just had the exact same conversation with a guy very involved in the industry - specifically 408 long guns and this is what he had to say.
338-408 or 338lm straight up.
Reasons -
Cost = lower so you get to shoot more which is the fastest and best way to improve your chances of smashing plate at distances of a mile+.
availability - Always a concern if you want to shoot frequently. Also, in the event of the zombie apocalypse the 338 rounds will be easier to come by. (always a concern.)
application - Honestly unless you are taking out targets behind armored doors at distances close to a mile+, or attempting to stop incoming vbieds you probably dont need the 408. The 338 projectile is more than capable for long range shooting/hunting.
Id save the dough and go some varient of the 338.
Justin - FNG here on the hide
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I have to dissagree here. When it comes down to it the 338/408 is gonna cost penny's more then the 338 lapua. Your shooting the same bullets and the brass is almost the same price. The difference between powder is 35-40 grains per round. Which does add up but the performance is tough to beat. Yes the barrel wont last as long but you wont get every 338 LM to strech out past 1800 unless you set it up more like a br gun and shoot very specific high bc solid bullets.
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