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      "widget.xfrm_overview_top_authors" => ""
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      "realms_realm_quiz_user" => "Realm Quiz User"
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.375 Cheytac questions

DanGuy48

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So, I will soon have a new, to me, .375 Cheytac. It's a Lawton 8000, 32" 1:11.5 twist Lawton barrel with Lawton brake. It's a few years old and has had 380 rounds through it. I've been reading everything I can find, here and elsewhere but still have questions. So...

-- Does the 11.5 twist Lawton in .375 automatically mean it's a Lost River Bore?

-- If yes, before I start reloading, I understand that some bullets do not like that bore. To save myself some time and frustration, could someone suggest the bullets, in terms of weights and styles, I should avoid, or conversely, that most have found work well, especially solids?

-- where can I get exact chamber dimensions of this rifle (barreled action is on its way to my local FFL)? Is there anyone at Lawton that still knows anything? I'm concerned about getting case right regarding trim length, etc. when I start reloading.

-- have members here found that stability factor calculations are a good predictor of bullet performance? (e.g. http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi) Thanks in advance for any information.



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Re: .375 Cheytac questions

Lawton is gone. Just because it`s a Lawton barrel does not mean it has a Lost River Bore. Actually the last couple of years in business they used Benchmark barrels. With your twist, you can shoot the 330gr Lehigh, 350 Jamison, 370 Rocky Mountain and Cutting Edge bullets in the same weight. It more than likely has the Saami chamber. Call Dave Kiff at PTG (Pacific Tool and Gauge) he has prints. Good luck.
 
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My rifle is also a Lawton 32 inch barrel with the 1-11.5 LRB and Lawton brake but mounted on a BAT action.

Some LRB's are not meant to like the Jamison/Sierra 350g SMK ... mine does ... I have been using these exclusively as they go out as far as I can shoot over here ... my rifle groups at less than .25 MOA at 100 yrds in a tunnel range using 3 shot groups.

Compared to solids these are cheap ... and can go out to a mile no problem if your rifle barrel likes them.

These are now hard to come by. They were supplied through Jamison who also made the best solids for your twist rate but they were forced to close last year by Chey Tac ( the supposed "old" Chey Tac with a proverbial "new" Chey Tac being the same company with new faces )after Chey Tac took them to court and won a very expensive court case.

So the 350g solid Jamison is also a good bullet but as said hard to find.

Because the SMK was actually made by Sierra with I suspect a sub contracted large order via Jamison it may be that Sierra will make further batches of these. Some were reported to have been available via another dealer fairly recently but are now sold out.

Jamison seem to be really suffering as the guy behind the company ( Marc Jamison ) is also being indicted for selling off bullets to Canada and New Zealand when they had a defense contract number and needed permission to be sold abroad.

It is a shame that these bullets are not now being rescued some how as they worked long enough for everyone to know that they worked and were likely to give good performance across the board ... which if you have read around the topic on here you will know what I mean ...

Of the other manufacturers who are making "solids" that could work in the twist rate we have ... see excaliburs post above ...

There are other makers and so called wannabee makers ... frankly this side of the bullet question loses me as it is hard to know who has made bullets that don't work ... who has'nt made bullets but is sure they will work ... who makes bullets which might work in some barrels but not others ... and who actually makes a bullet and has had a reasonable amount of accepted performance.

Of this later group which is the only one that counts in my view ... the Lehigh 330g has had a fair bit of take up ...

Others I am not sure where they are at ... some have had first generation bullet problems ... some have bullet problems but only in new stuff and have some old "proven" designs which do work ... it is hard to tell from differing posts giving differing information.

I would try therefore and find some 350g SMK's if you can and some 350g Jamison bullets as a first option.

Try Lehigh second and both you and I need a bit of direction on the 370g Rocky Mountain and Cutting Edge bullets as this weight is probably at the top end of what a 1-11.5 twist will stabilise.

Anyone using these would be a welcome input.

What has confused me in the past and pissed me off so much that I dropped out of the loop on keeping pace on things is when the bullet manufacturers and so called wannabee manufacturers start bitching with each other and before long a decent post possibly useful for information descends into a bull$hit "bun-fight" ...

 
Re: .375 Cheytac questions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DanGuy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
-- where can I get exact chamber dimensions of this rifle (barreled action is on its way to my local FFL)? Is there anyone at Lawton that still knows anything? I'm concerned about getting case right regarding trim length, etc. when I start reloading.

-- have members here found that stability factor calculations are a good predictor of bullet performance? (e.g. http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi) Thanks in advance for any information.

-- </div></div>

the jbm stablity calculator is a good way of determine what bullets might work for you

you can make a chamber cast to determine your chamber specs. Hide member Victorn in TN would be a good guy to talk to about it.
 
Re: .375 Cheytac questions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeterWilson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My rifle is also a Lawton 32 inch barrel with the 1-11.5 LRB and Lawton brake but mounted on a BAT action.





</div></div>

How do you like that BAT action, I'm having one built now using that action.
Thanks,
Paul
 
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The BAT action is excellent ... probably as good as you could ask for in a single feed. The advantage of being able to have any OAL on new bullets and not be tied into a magazine max OAL is very useful when the calibre is so much in an R&D phase as to what works.

At one point the Jamison products were steady enough on performance to make me think of a mag feed rifle ... but then they suffered and closed. So I am pleased that if the best delivery options are still to be found and established I can just focus on barrel twist rates and am able to swap out barrels confident that all permutations will work through the action.

BAT have been my action of choice for all my F Class and long range rifles. I have 5 BAT actions and each is a gem and a credit to silky smooth operation and tight tolerance engineering.

You won't go wrong if you choose one ...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeterWilson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The BAT action is excellent ... probably as good as you could ask for in a single feed. The advantage of being able to have any OAL on new bullets and not be tied into a magazine max OAL is very useful when the calibre is so much in an R&D phase as to what works.

At one point the Jamison products were steady enough on performance to make me think of a mag feed rifle ... but then they suffered and closed. So I am pleased that if the best delivery options are still to be found and established I can just focus on barrel twist rates and am able to swap out barrels confident that all permutations will work through the action.

BAT have been my action of choice for all my F Class and long range rifles. I have 5 BAT actions and each is a gem and a credit to silky smooth operation and tight tolerance engineering.

You won't go wrong if you choose one ... </div></div>

Yeah I'm pretty excided about the 375 CT build, I'm using a 30" Lilja with a 1-10 twist and the BAT action with a Mcmillan A-5 stock. I plan on shooting the 370 RMB's.
 
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Thanks all, good info. I'll definitely follow up on recommendations. Peter, I'm newer to this LR game than most here, and of course to the .375 CT, so it's comforting to see that I'm not the only one feeling some confusion. It would be nice to have a single thread "all things .375 CT" where we could share updated experiences about this round and different rifle configurations for it.
 
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I have received a few 425 gr Cutting Edge 375 bullets, these are big fellers I hope to shoot a few of these this wk-end.
 
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Good to see cutting edge is producing more 425gr 375cals we recieved some about a month ago and are still in the process of testing them. At this stage they seen to shoot okay in a 12-7.8 gain twist with about 1.040 BC we have tighter twist barrels coming so more testing will be happening, be keen to here how you get on Augustus with them
 
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Shot the 425s out of the 13-6.5 gain twist. 100 yd 3 shot groups around .3 inches. Load was 138 gr of 50 BMG with a velocity of 2765-2775.

Shot two at 900 and two at 1770, the two at 900 landed on top of each other and made one splash, the two at 1770 was less than 3 inches apart. This was absolutely a fluke because I had a 6 - 8 mph wind from 4 o-clock. Drops indicated a BC around 1 or so.

I have six of them left and if I can get the right conditions this wk-end I will shoot them at 1770. Maybe this will yield a better representation of their true accuracy potential.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DanGuy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks all, good info. I'll definitely follow up on recommendations. Peter, I'm newer to this LR game than most here, and of course to the .375 CT, so it's comforting to see that I'm not the only one feeling some confusion. It would be nice to have a single thread "all things .375 CT" where we could share updated experiences about this round and different rifle configurations for it. </div></div>

The difficulty we have with this calibre stems from the incompatible twist rates needed to stabilise the bullets being produced.

Originally, those of us who got on board with the Jamison/Cheytac menu had the benefit of a cheaper SMK and a monolithic solid both at 350g which covered off up to a mile or just beyond with the SMK for cheaper shooting and practise ... and a good performing bullet capable of going as far out as the difference in E.S. would allow for accurate shooting elevation wise.

Ultimately that is the main hurdle ... elevation spread ... which is born out of the variance in the E.S. of the rounds which prevents repeatable performance. Once you have the wind doped ... the further out you go ... you are going to encounter higher and higher elevation spreads simply from the changes in the M.V. ... regardless of the B.C. of the bullet. The B.C. may help on buffering the wind changes and may help on retaining velocity ... which helps on distance ... but if the rounds have a 30 fps+ E.S. you only have to run them through a Ballistic Programme to work out the high and low extremes mean that a goal of hitting man sized targets will not be repeatable.

Had we stuck with designing bullets to work with the original LRB twist of 1-11.5 for example ... then the benefits of gain twists for those same bullets could have been absorbed better and quicker ... and then we could have looked to more detailed differences of bore diameter and the height and depth of the rifling and the benefit of altering neck tension ... all with a goal of bringing down the E.S.'s and thereby having a more "repeatable" level of accuracy.

Instead what has happened is that the alternative bullet providers have gone out to design bullets with "improved B.C." capabilities ... each of which needs a seperate twist rate to stabilise them ... that is if they can be stabilised properly ( and some simply don't work from many reports ) ... and what you have now is an expensive situation where some barrels are now almost "obsolete" because of twist rate differences ... and no-one making true progress because of a lack of standardisation.

You also in my view have an open door for some bullet makers to bring out very expensive bullets without seemingly suitable R&D in the real world and are selling these based on scientific design models claiming that their's is the latest and best etc ... with guys at the shooting end having to invest a shit load of capital in a new barrel plus the cost of their bullets and powder simply to try them out. Sometimes only to find that they don't work. Which to me is a waste of money and also a waste of time.

So on the one hand you had a fairly succesful "time proven" pairing with the SMK and Jamison solid ... only to find that the business people behind the Cheytac/Jamison collaboration could'nt get on and seemingly killed each other off ...

Only to find that this platform has been replaced by in my view a real cluster £uck of different bullet designs all of which are hard to standardise ... with probably a 1-10 or 1-8 or a myriad of different gain twist ratio's being tried to accommodate them. Combine this with some guys in the bullet making business who are quite openly prepared to insult and bait one another ... decrying the others products ... and the whole situation gets worse.

The truth is that the civilian market will pave the way to find out what works best ... but there are not many in the civilian market who can afford to commission a new barrel for every new bullet ... with some bullets needing more than one barrel twist combination in order to properly try them out ( like a gain twist and a straight twist ) before you can realistically say "they work" or that "they don't".

This is all before you can start to make progress with powder and primer combinations and neck tension to bring down the E.S.'s so that repeatable elevation can be obtained at the distances these bullets ought to work at.

If you went back in time and looked at the many good rifle designs and improvements made for the 30-06 ... what you don't see is people making the same mistake of saying that the round works best with bullets which all need a different twist rate ...

It basically adds too many variables into the pot ... and has a lot of good quality trigger pullers either deprived of participating in the development because of financial limits ... or participating and wasting their time ... or worst of all trying to participate on a "budget" and finding that the industry is either letting them down by failing to work as sensible businessmen ... or are ripping them off with expensive bullets which have never been properly tested and ought not to be sold until they are.

This is just my take on things though ... and each to their own opinion.

Personally I am hopeful that Sierra and Berger will bring in 350g bullets at sensible prices and that those who are making solid bullets will see the benefit of coming out with solids which will work in the same twist rates.

The Jamison solids were pretty good performers and if the "market" had stuck with solids that could equal or improve upon them "with the same twist rate" we would be a lot further down the road to getting information which could raise everyone's ability to shoot at ELR with the expectation of repeatable accuracy.
 
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I got sent this today
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2012 New Product Announcement
375 Caliber (.375 diameter)
350 grain HP MatchKing (Part # 9350)
Sierra Bullets is pleased to introduce the newest member
of the MatchKing line, the .375 caliber 350 g grain
HPBT. This bullet was designed for a custom long range
application and is the largest MatchKing we produce.
We knew the 11 caliber ogive, 9 degree boat tail and
Sierra’s famously forgiving ogive would make this bullet
a big hit with our big bore long range customers.
These bullets will be available in boxes of 500 bullets
(stock #9350) with a 2012 suggested retail of $443.72 per
box, and trial boxes of 50 bullets (stock #9350T) with a
2012 suggested retail of $53.24 per box.

DIAMETER WEIGHT STYLE .375 350 Hollow Point Boat tail MATCHKING
Sectional Density .355
Ballistic Coefficient
.805 @ 2,200 FPS AND ABOVE
.780 BETWEEN 1,700 AND 2,000 FPS
PART# 9350 .720 @ 1,700 FPS AND BELOW
375 Caliber (.375 diameter)
350 grain HP MatchKing (Part # 9350)
 
Re: .375 Cheytac questions

What about ther Cutting Edge Bullets in 375 Cal. There are a variety of bullet weights available from 300gr up to 400gr being stabilised in tubes ranging from 1:13 down to 1:8.5. There seems to be a moderate amount of success with these projectiles in the 350gr and 375gr weight range with standard barrels and twist rates of 1:10 to 1:11.5 etc.

I run a 32" Krieger on a Stiller Tac-408 with a 1:10. I'm waiting on the arrival of some 350gr CEB's over the next few weeks and from all reports, these things have been great past 2000yds.

Good projectiles are hard to come by and even harder here in Australia!! Hopefully these CEB's work out and the Sierra's DO become available because they're a great deal cheaper!!
 
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I`m waiting on the .375 cal Berger`s. The Sierra was a good,cheap shooting bullet but it lacked to be the great 375 bullet. After running the numbers a few years ago, if memory serves me correct, the Sierras BC was in the low .700`s.
 
Re: .375 Cheytac questions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jimmy M40a2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Finally....thank you Serria.</div></div>

Big plus 1 from me too!

If Sierra bring it ... so will Berger ...
 
Re: .375 Cheytac questions

PeterWilson,

Can I ask what makes you think that Berger are going to come to the party with a 375 Cal projectile? At this point in time, they offer nothing above 30 cal and that includes 338. Given the current worldwide popularity of the 338 over the top of the 375, I think that the idea of a high BC pill coming out of Berger is nothing but a pipe dream. No offence, I just think that pure logistics and consumer demand are the forefront for developers and new release projectiles.

I would like to see one released by Berger, as I would also like to see a Hornady A-Max in both 338 and 375 cal released. However, I still think any form of development or release in the near future is wishful thinking.
 
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i dont get it , why a .375 smk or berger vld and not something for the 50 bmg ? do more people actually shoot a .375 then a bmg ? I know the answer is no. So is there a .375 revolution coming ?
 
Re: .375 Cheytac questions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MALLARD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i dont get it , why a .375 smk or berger vld and not something for the 50 bmg ? do more people actually shoot a .375 then a bmg ? I know the answer is no. So is there a .375 revolution coming ? </div></div>

Short answer "YES"
 
Re: .375 Cheytac questions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Augustus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I fired the 425 Cutting Edge at 1760, .5 Moa vertical, .75 Moa horizontal. Wind 2-3 mph 9 o-clock. 5 shot group. </div></div>

Good stuff, do you think any of the .75 horizontal was the wind?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sprocket</div><div class="ubbcode-body">PeterWilson,

Can I ask what makes you think that Berger are going to come to the party with a 375 Cal projectile? At this point in time, they offer nothing above 30 cal and that includes 338. Given the current worldwide popularity of the 338 over the top of the 375, I think that the idea of a high BC pill coming out of Berger is nothing but a pipe dream. No offence, I just think that pure logistics and consumer demand are the forefront for developers and new release projectiles.

I would like to see one released by Berger, as I would also like to see a Hornady A-Max in both 338 and 375 cal released. However, I still think any form of development or release in the near future is wishful thinking. </div></div>

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/01/berger-hybrid-bullets-what-you-need-to-know/

at the bottom of the page it talks about bergers coming out with 375 and 408 cal bullets as soon as 2013
 
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RockyMtn, yes it is very likely the wind had something to do with the horizontal dispersion. With that being said anytime I'm under a minute at a mile I am happy.
 
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When I emailed Berger concerning .375 here is the response I recieved from Bryan as of May 7.

We are planning a .375 caliber projectile, but have not started work on it yet. It will probably be close to 2 years before we have it available. -Bryan
 
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Also, I just got in some VLD monolithic solids to try. No drive bands or anything, just smooth. I pulled a few at random to measure and they were all exactly 0.374 inch. Is that typical?

Edit: and thanks for heads up on Sierra, I've also ordered some Matchkings.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sprocket</div><div class="ubbcode-body">PeterWilson,

Can I ask what makes you think that Berger are going to come to the party with a 375 Cal projectile? At this point in time, they offer nothing above 30 cal and that includes 338. Given the current worldwide popularity of the 338 over the top of the 375, I think that the idea of a high BC pill coming out of Berger is nothing but a pipe dream. No offence, I just think that pure logistics and consumer demand are the forefront for developers and new release projectiles.

I would like to see one released by Berger, as I would also like to see a Hornady A-Max in both 338 and 375 cal released. However, I still think any form of development or release in the near future is wishful thinking. </div></div>

The links above answer your question.

To eloborate a little ... both Berger and Sierra have great staff who listen and keep abrest of what is happening in long range target sports and long range hunting and can see the market potential ... they are also open to dialogue and suggestions ... and are fast to respond.

If you retain the 1-11.5 twist rate as some element of standardisation you can also appeal to the .375 H&H shooters who are looking for a Plains Game round for long range in Africa.

Many of the "hunting countries" around the world have some restrictions on Military calibres. Particularly those with French and Belgian colony roots ... to this day you are restricted from owning military calibres for hunting purposes in France and I believe the same to be true in Belgium. This translates to a lot of Africa.

So the market for good long range .375 projectiles may be bigger than you think when you factor in the wider "hunting market".

Trying to get a .338 LM into Africa will have you appreciate my point. Indeed, not just Africa but a lot of Eastern Asia.

You can travel worldwide using a .375 calibre and not face any similar restrictions.

Then there is the "ballistic" potential for this calibre ... not just the sheer distance but the ability to take fast shots without need to touch the scope at shorter ranges because the bullet drop is much less compared to other calibres when velocity is applied in "Cheytac" quantities ... this translates to "user" benefits both in the Military and in large game Hunting.

Then there IS the sheer distance arguement. The .375 is probably where the future lies in repeatable accuracy being easily deployed in shooting at ELR. So there will be a ".375" revolution and these companies have the right type of staff who can see that.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Augustus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I fired the 425 Cutting Edge at 1760, .5 Moa vertical, .75 Moa horizontal. Wind 2-3 mph 9 o-clock. 5 shot group.</div></div>

That is a great group Augustus ... holding a .5 MOA elevation can be considered F Class level for performance at a mile! The windage movement is likely to be indicative of the slight variable wind for the extra .25 MOA ... with an expectation of .5 MOA being available at the top end of performance.

Getting your load down to a 10fps E.S. has certainly paid off! Are you using variable neck tension bushings and going for a lighter tension? Or skimming the necks on the brass?

I take it this was with the Bartlein Gain Twist ... if so I would be tempted to leave that screwed on as is and not go back to alternating. In my experience it is very hard to replicate the exact harmonic's needed to give a guarantee of the same performance swapping out the barrels once accuracy at that level is reached.

That's why I have a number of "replica" BAT rifles ... once the "load" is found ... it is easier to keep a barrel fitted and then develop a second barrel on a seperate rifle. Or leave it until that barrel is shot out.



 
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Peter, I clean up the necks of new bass with an outside neck turner, after the first firing I run a neck reamer through. This was the Bartlein gain twist 13-6.5 that fired the group. Even though this barrel seems to like these bullets one should not assume a 6.5 twist is required to stabilize them. They need to be fired in other twists to find the range they will stabilize in.

I would also remind folks this was only one 5 shot group, many more needs to be fired to get a true picture of their capabilities. Consider that the effects of 1mph of wind will push this bullet at the fired velocity around .2 mils. Now add the effects of velocity deviation, mirage, shooter induced error, deviation induced by the mechanics of the platform etc. and it becomes apparent shooting sub-Moa groups at 1 mile is not a given.
 
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Interesting to see the care you give to case preperation ... which is what I expected from your low E.S.'s ... and whilst the variables you mention will play a part all the time ... I suspect you were on top of them for this particular group.

Out of curiosity what magnification were you shooting on ?

I expect around 22x ... this seems to be the best compromise for detail without mirage distortion ... and IMO your group is probably showing the top end of what is "doable" but as you rightly say is not going to be a given all the time ... still good shooting though ...
 
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I have shot a lot at this particular location and have learned it's tricks. I shoot a USO T-Pal 3.2-17. Mirage is not always visible but there are other indicators present at the site. I'm not above popping smoke on really tricky days.
 
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That's "good precision" on just 17x at a mile ... I thought probably more power ... but getting back on topic a little more ... have you had any other .375 projectiles which have delivered sub 1 MOA at a mile ?
 
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The Cutting Edge 400 gr usually stayed around 1 minute. One of the ZA series showed promise. It should be noted the barrels I have are the 8 twist and the 6.5 gain twist. They are to fast for the SMK, Rocky Mtn, etc. I have not fired the predators for obvious reasons. I wanted to fire the GS 414 but I did not want to pay 6.00 per rd.

Basically I stayed with the heavies as I was searching for the highest BC available. I have come to believe that it will be very difficult to get much over a 1 BC in the 375 and still have a projectile that is not difficult to deal with.

Someone may come up with a better mouse trap but I'm still waiting. As stated before there has been more unwashed BS surrounding the high BC projectiles and their required twist rates than I care to think about.

The good thing about it all is that there seems to be a renewed interest in the 375. Sierra and Berger are making moves in a positive direction and the monolithic solids folks are figuring out what works and what don't. It's up to the consumer to wake up, smell the coffee and realize Lutz Moeller was FOS with his predictions on what was possible with the solids. There is not going to be a 1.5 BC projo around 400 gr in 375 Cal.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Augustus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Cutting Edge 400 gr usually stayed around 1 minute. One of the ZA series showed promise. It should be noted the barrels I have are the 8 twist and the 6.5 gain twist. They are to fast for the SMK, Rocky Mtn, etc. I have not fired the predators for obvious reasons. I wanted to fire the GS 414 but I did not want to pay 6.00 per rd. </div></div>

I sell GSC 375 414 grn SP bullets for $3.10 per rd + shipping ($15) to the Scandinavian market - I find it hard to belive that they cost $6 in the US?????
And I have them in stock
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Cheers,

Master Diver
 
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ELR, get 25 of them for me. I will give you 3.50 a Rd. For them.

Master diver, you said you had the 414 in stock, again, how much delivered to the Oklahoma hills.
 
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Looking at his technical data ... the 330g bullet would work in my LRB 1-11.5 twist ... anyone tried these out yet in a similar barrel ?
 
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The GSC 414gr may? be a good bullet but its availability is so up and down, on the other hand the cutting edge are so easy to get and so far shoot great with quoted BCs being very close to what we have shot in the field not wild dreams by bulllet makers believing there's shoot flater than everybody elses.
 
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Rocky Mtn, I would like to obtains few of these to determine if the published BC is real and if they are stable from an 8 twist. I would hope they perform as advertised but to be honest I don't think they will. If I tested these bullets and they have a BC anywhere near the 1.2ish as claimed. I will report the results here for all to see and admit how wrong I have been all this time.

So I am in the market for 25 of the GSC 414s. I will pay 3.50 each for them. Anybody???
 
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Rocky Mountain, I am all for going with what "works" ... but Augustus results with his Gain Twist barrel are really the only detailed group results I have seen on the cutting edge bullets ... your post seems to indicate a tighter twist might be in order on your barrels ?

The thing is ... I can afford Sierra's SMK and will be able to do the same for Berger's offering ... I am reluctant to jump in with a new barrel order that solely uses expensive solids until I see a reason to ... I would prefer to wait and see if something happens to bring back the Jamison 350g solid ... which without drive bands etc still worked well enough ... and if need be I will look at other solids which work in the LRB twist ...

The main reasons for this are that at ELR beyond a mile where solids take over from the SMK in performance ... shooting in a manner where I can improve and learn from very much depends on factors which are hard to put in place ... and unless I can do this I don't see the point ...

- Determining "fall of shot" is the critical one ... unless you can go with a buddy who is happy down range as a "live spotter" and is safe and you have "comm's" or some better means of learning the POI on misses ... the learning curve is "lost" ... and spotting scopes from the firing point stop working in those 2000 plus zones. Maybe on a cliff face you can tell ... but sand splash or water splash on horizontal ground becomes impossible to tell the corrections needed ... a cliff face or a quarry face would work but I have'nt found "the perfect range" just yet ... for a 5 MOA variable "tell zone" at 2400 metres/ 2650 yards you more or less need a 12 foot by 12 foot angled incline cliff face at around 50 degrees. Low shots otherwise on a vertical cliff will hit infront of it because of the angle of impact ... I am working on laying out 12 felled tree trunks in a line on a certain bank ... but to see the wood chips "fly" I would need a good friend and a good bunker ...

So until I can work out this side of things I am happy staying under 2000 yards ... where more or less I can work with some vertical or near vertical cliffs from where I live and use my Lieca spotting scope.

Those extra 650 yards cannot be found there because of roads and terrain safety issues.

So for me the SMK works well ... within the facilities I have ... but trying new terrain is always tempting.
 
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Peter, the discussion of 375 bullets will be no different than discussions that have been going on for yrs with other cartridges. There will be the lighter/faster crowd as opposed to the heavier/higher BC crowd. As with other cartridges it will boil down to preferences and intended uses.

I too am looking forward to the Bergers, SMKs, and other jacketed bullets that are in the pipeline.
 
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Yes I agree Augustus ... I don't really have a preference for fast and light or slow and heavy ... in my case it is just wanting to use what I already have ... and enjoying the challenges of ELR ...

It's all good fun !
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Augustus</div><div class="ubbcode-body">ELR, get 25 of them for me. I will give you 3.50 a Rd. For them.

Master diver, you said you had the 414 in stock, again, how much delivered to the Oklahoma hills. </div></div>

I am not allowed to sell bullets outside Scandinavia - you will have to buy them from the US distributor - sorry.

This is what they look like
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Cheers,

Master Diver

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