Rifle Scopes 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

[YAOG]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oldfatguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Finally figured out how to use the Leupold Zero Point boresighter that came with the last Mk4. Not exact, but gets the first round within a couple of inches at 100 yds. Then read the reticle, correct and confirm.

Four shots is using way too much ammo.

OFG </div></div>

OFG,

I also use a Leupold Zero Point. For rifles I have made a sketch of the sight picture after being zeroed I can usually get in the 10 ring first shot at 100 yards. For new optical setups it is always on the paper of a 10" NRA 100 yard target repair center.

 

[GardDog]

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I have been known to stare down the barrel, then fire at 100 yards for my initial setup. Worked well for me


I found my new sig line quote:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm a massive fucking retard I reckon. </div></div>

 

[nauta]

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A few weeks ago I actually saw some guys sighting in an AR with a target they had put up on their own support only about half way to the 25 yard line. I was laughing to myself at the time but now I know it was ME that jacked up!

 

[turbo54]

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At Cabelas last month, I overhead a customer talking to one of the employee "experts" about getting his new Savage 110BA 338LM sighted in and zeroed. Apparently, the kid (looked to be about 20) fired <span style="font-weight: bold">40 rounds</span> and never hit paper.

 

[YAOG]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: turbo54</div><div class="ubbcode-body">At Cabelas last month, I overhead a customer talking to one of the employee "experts" about getting his new Savage 110BA 338LM sighted in and zeroed. Apparently, the kid (looked to be about 20) fired <span style="font-weight: bold">40 rounds</span> and never hit paper.

</div></div>

Happens all the time. You should see some of the .338LM shooters trying to hit targets at 25, 50 and 100 yards. They cannot figure out what they are going wrong and I just can't seem to bring myself to keep them from shooting $7 or $8 per round ammo all day long and not hit anything other than the dirt. I guess I should help them just to avoid getting hit by the shrapnel from shooting too close but usually by the time of day these shooters show up in their Range Rovers I'm all done shooting anyway and bug out.

 

[VJJPunisher]

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another way to does it, tho a little unorthadox, is to stab a rod with a laser taped to it in the bullseye of the target. Walk back up to the gun and move it till the laser is pointing into the barrel. Then adjust reticle to look right into the laser. This is the CSI Miami way of doing it

 

[Chiller]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mgd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes, I realize you have to take the upper off, which is why I inquired. When I go to the range to help buddies sight in rifles, we usually just have either a bipod/front rest & rear sand bags....just figured it would be hard to hold the bore on target while removing lower to look through the bore & then putting it back.

But i guess if you have it locked in a rest, it would work... </div></div>

mk 1 eyeball....get you REALLY close at home?

 

[Prebanpaul]

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I love all the response that you have placed on here........... most of you have missed on thing........... your the greatest shooters at your ranges....... I am not talking about people that have your ability or products......... secondly I pray to god that you dont make a mistake............ seen a guy one time, bore sight his gun, did not realize that he had a cant on his mount and sent the ruond right over a back stop.............. I always shoot at 25 for safety reasons........... hopefully all of you are perfect at what you do..........

 

[oldfatguy]

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I do have to admire your coming back into this thread. All the posts just go to show that there is more then one way to sight in a rifle.

And yes there are people at the range that should not be allowed anywhere near firearms.

OFG

 

[armorpl8chikn]

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I will see your 25yd zero system and raise it a 200yd zero in less than 4.
I too try to help others less fortunate at my range. They show up and I am on the 200yd range. They want to get a 200yd zero but they "will be back in a minute" cause they need to "get her on paper" at 25 and 50 first. I politely offer to let them use my rest and my gear, my spotting skills and my assistance. Many simply act like I am the idiot(as we have already established I am)and go to the 25yd range. They hold me up because I have to wait for them to get done before I can go hot again. I am treated usually to a cacophony of gunfire for the next 20 minutes while they try to learn how little a scope moves at 25yds and fight the obvious parallax problem trying to get that perfect center hit.
I offered once to pay a guy $20 bucks if I couldn't get his brand new unfired rig "on" in 3 or less from 200yds. Yep he knew right away I was a moron and didn't know what I was talking about, as evidenced by his beeline to the 25yd line....while I waited on a cold line burning daylight.

 

[Killer Spade 13]

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Actually, you can zero your rifle with <span style="font-weight: bold">one</span> shot.

<span style="font-weight: bold">GIVEN:</span> that you know your ballistic chart for your round, all you have to do is, <span style="font-weight: bold">GIVEN</span> the yardage, shoot one round.

<span style="font-weight: bold">GIVEN:</span> Your rifle is held in a steady position that allows no deviation of movement when adjusting the scope.

Put the crosshair on the intended point of impact.

Fire one round, cold bore.

Realign the crosshairs on the intended point of impact.

<span style="font-weight: bold">GIVEN:</span> Your rifle is held in a steady position that allows no deviation of movement when adjusting the scope.

Move the crosshairs from the intended point of impact to the actual point of impact.

Fire for effect.

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: armorpl8chikn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I offered once to pay a guy $20 bucks if I couldn't get his brand new unfired rig "on" in 3 or less from 200yds. Yep he knew right away I was a moron and didn't know what I was talking about, as evidenced by his beeline to the 25yd line....while I waited on a cold line burning daylight. </div></div>

Priceless.

One of these days I am going to go to our local range with a cooler and no guns and just watch the entertainment.

 

[Chiller]

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During hunting season.....

MOPP

Minute of Pie Plate

Loads of people are that happy

Works as a RSO at a range and that DOES happen.

 

[Chiller]

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if you are doing this.....you have a WHOLE set of problems

 

[Prebanpaul]

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lol that is what I am talking about....... the sks up top..

But on a serious note, I dont need a spotter to see where my round is going when I sight in my gun..... I know where the round is going every time and i have yet to miss a target at 100 yards, and have yet to say, where did that round go to someone else? I will stand by my sight in method........ Like someone else stated there are very diffrent ways of doing things...... I know mine is safe and takes less than 5 minutes.......

 

[Chiller]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lol that is what I am talking about....... the sks up top..

But on a serious note, I dont need a spotter to see where my round is going when I sight in my gun..... I know where the round is going every time and i have yet to miss a target at 100 yards, and have yet to say, where did that round go to someone else? I will stand by my sight in method........ Like someone else stated there are very diffrent ways of doing things...... I know mine is safe and takes less than 5 minutes....... </div></div>

Must be nice to have the range to yourself.

Stand by your method. More power to ya.

Calling people idiots.....I think that is where the gloves came off.

I know.....call me silly.

 

[tigerfan_9]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I l seen a guy one time, bore sight his gun, did not realize that he had a cant on his mount and sent the ruond right over a back stop.............. </div></div>

Trying to figure this one out....how does cant come in to play? if i line up the POA (reticle) and the bore at the same spot, cant is irrelevant. not saying the guy didn't launch one but it wasn't bc of the cant.

You now say the people on here are experts, etc but called everyone morons initially but you still want to stick with your method of wasting time and ammo sighting in a rifle.

 

[txgw]

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I'm betting this thread didn't turn out like you planned did it? I too look down the bore at 100, align sights, and start shooting from there. I even have the advantage of a 600 yrd range all to myself from my porch and still start at 100.

 

[shankster..]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love all the response that you have placed on here........... most of you have missed on thing........... your the greatest shooters at your ranges....... I am not talking about people that have your ability or products......... secondly I pray to god that you dont make a mistake............ seen a guy one time, bore sight his gun, did not realize that he had a cant on his mount and sent the ruond right over a back stop.............. I always shoot at 25 for safety reasons........... hopefully all of you are perfect at what you do.......... </div></div>

 

[leadbullet]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

this a funny thread, very entertaining.

 

[lazy21]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lol that is what I am talking about....... the sks up top..

But on a serious note, I dont need a spotter to see where my round is going when I sight in my gun..... I know where the round is going every time and i have yet to miss a target at 100 yards, and have yet to say, where did that round go to someone else? I will stand by my sight in method........ Like someone else stated there are very diffrent ways of doing things...... I know mine is safe and takes less than 5 minutes....... </div></div>

Must be nice to have the range to yourself.

Stand by your method. More power to ya.

Calling people idiots.....I think that is where the gloves came off.

I know.....call me a <span style="color: #CC0000">idiot</span>. </div></div>

Fixed it for you sir

 

[Chiller]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lol that is what I am talking about....... the sks up top..

But on a serious note, I dont need a spotter to see where my round is going when I sight in my gun..... I know where the round is going every time and i have yet to miss a target at 100 yards, and have yet to say, where did that round go to someone else? I will stand by my sight in method........ Like someone else stated there are very diffrent ways of doing things...... I know mine is safe and takes less than 5 minutes....... </div></div>

Must be nice to have the range to yourself.

Stand by your method. More power to ya.

Calling people idiots.....I think that is where the gloves came off.

I know.....call me a <span style="color: #CC0000">idiot</span>. </div></div>

Fixed it for you sir

</div></div>

Problem solved......Problem staying solved........

 

[lazy21]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

I need to zero a new Contersniper scope on my DTA, I guess I'll start off @ 25 yards

 

[shankster..]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I need to zero a new Contersniper scope on my DTA, I guess I'll start off @ 25 yards

</div></div>

Just go to an indoor pistol range with the rifle broken down and assemble it in the baffled lane. You can even stretch it out to 50 yrds.

 

[NoFail]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Killer Spade 13</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Actually, you can zero your rifle with <span style="font-weight: bold">one</span> shot.

<span style="font-weight: bold">GIVEN:</span> that you know your ballistic chart for your round, all you have to do is, <span style="font-weight: bold">GIVEN</span> the yardage, shoot one round.

<span style="font-weight: bold">GIVEN:</span> Your rifle is held in a steady position that allows no deviation of movement when adjusting the scope.

Put the crosshair on the intended point of impact.

Fire one round, cold bore.

Realign the crosshairs on the intended point of impact.

<span style="font-weight: bold">GIVEN:</span> Your rifle is held in a steady position that allows no deviation of
movement when adjusting the scope.

Move the crosshairs from the intended point of impact to the actual point of impact.

Fire for effect. </div></div>

This is the method used yesterday to sight new scope.
This is the method I will incorporate next time because it worked like a charm.
The more stable the platform the better it will work when you dial the turrets/reticule over to actual POI.

 

[KYS]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love all the response that you have placed on here........... most of you have missed on thing........... your the greatest shooters at your ranges....... I am not talking about people that have your ability or products......... secondly I pray to god that you dont make a mistake............ seen a guy one time, bore sight his gun, did not realize that he had a cant on his mount and sent the ruond right over a back stop.............. I always shoot at 25 for safety reasons........... hopefully all of you are perfect at what you do.......... </div></div>

Long range, precision rifles at 25 yards!!! GENIUS!

 

[VJJPunisher]

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i actually use the OP's technique scaled down for zero'in my hipoint pistol. I shoe goo a cardboard target to my barrel, then shoot again at 4 inches and then at 5 feet

 

[tylerw02]

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I'm the OP..................and.........I like to type..........like this......call you an idiot.....and put lots of dots behind my thoughts.....but I do it because its safe.

 

[Big Dog Steel]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot alot at a range..... I usually with quality products can get a sight in at 100 yards with 4 rounds...... I shoot a target with one inch blocks on it..... I shoot one round at 25 make scope adjustments. Shoot at 50 and make adjustments. Shoot a two shot group at 100 and make adjustments........ not hard and works 95 percent of time....

I have tried to explain this to people this summer at least 30 times........ nope they start shooting at 100 with a sight in looking down in the barrel..... idiots.......

anyone else run in to this at the range...... </div></div>

Must be an Ohio thing.....seems like the world is full-o-idiots.... </div></div>

Hey Now..... don't stereotype all of us Ohioans in the same boat......

 

[Cacciatore]

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I sight in at 200. I have no patience for 100 because of all the ARs and AKs. Too overcrowded and too much flying brass.

 

[NoFail]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mgd45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....just figured it would be hard to hold the bore on target while removing lower to look through the bore & then putting it back.

But i guess if you have it locked in a rest, it would work... </div></div>

Huh? No, first thing, remove the lower or you can just pull rear pin and let swivel on front but it's just easier to completely remove lower from upper. Pull BCG and charge handle. Secure upper with whatever means you have. I do it in my garage with muzzle pointed down the street which runs into my driveway. A telephone pole is pre laser'd at 105 yards down the street from where I am in garage, which is 60' deep by the way so nobody can see me in there and freak out because as everyone knows by now, I'm an idiot!! I secure upper in a jerry rigged rifle vise and have a solid bore sight in matter of a few minutes after that. Puts me on paper at 100 and that's all that matters.

 

[Conqueror]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I bore sight, and read the reticle, I don't have to use 3 different targets or anything stupid like 25, 50, then 100, I am on at 100 with the first shot then read the reticle and I am in the black with the very next shot.

I pride myself on being an idiot in this case. </div></div>
+1

Boresight, fire a single shot. If it is 1 mil low and 2 mils left, dial 1 mil up and 2 mils right on the turrets, and the next shot should be close to the X.

 

[remau308]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tigerfan9</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I l seen a guy one time, bore sight his gun, did not realize that he had a cant on his mount and sent the ruond right over a back stop.............. </div></div>

Trying to figure this one out....how does cant come in to play? if i line up the POA (reticle) and the bore at the same spot, cant is irrelevant. not saying the guy didn't launch one but it wasn't bc of the cant.

You now say the people on here are experts, etc but called everyone morons initially but you still want to stick with your method of wasting time and ammo sighting in a rifle. </div></div>

Are we the only two that has noticed this comment? Should ruin all credibility with this comment alone.

 

[wareagle700]

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100 yard idiot here.
Never takes me more than 3-4 rounds.

 

[dustingaunder]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Conqueror</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Boresight, fire a single shot. If it is 1 mil low and 2 mils left, dial 1 mil up and 2 mils right on the turrets, and the next shot should be close to the X.</div></div>

How many clicks is that? I usually shoot at 100 yards. Then move the knobs 2 clicks and fire a shot. I keep doing that back until I get it in the middle. If I do more than two clicks I end up bouncing around all over the target and wasting bullets.

 

[Prebanpaul]

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lol I love the comprehension level in here......... obviousoly I was not talking about all of the professional shooters in here. I am talking about the person that does not have clue and sets out to shoot at a hundered and cant do it....... everyone of you have seen this person and know what I am talking about......

I shoot at a private hunting and fishing club with a range out to two hundred yards...... So we are not full of precision shooters only.............

Most of you I dont doubt could do your one shot sight in............ great for you....... I was simply posting an easy way to do it..........

To the people that say waisting 5 minutes to do this is making you wait....... You probably should not have read this post and waisted time responding because obviously your the only person that matters, and your time is way to prescious to even be reading this now.........

 

[KYS]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lol I love the comprehension level in here......... obviousoly I was not talking about all of the professional shooters in here. I am talking about the person that does not have clue and sets out to shoot at a hundered and cant do it....... everyone of you have seen this person and know what I am talking about......

I shoot at a private hunting and fishing club with a range out to two hundred yards...... So we are not full of precision shooters only.............

Most of you I dont doubt could do your one shot sight in............ great for you....... I was simply posting an easy way to do it..........

To the people that say waisting 5 minutes to do this is making you wait....... You probably should not have read this post and waisted time responding because obviously your the only person that matters, and your time is way to prescious to even be reading this now.........

</div></div>

Just stop digging already.......

 

[YAOG]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">lol I love the comprehension level in here......... obviousoly I was not talking about all of the professional shooters in here. I am talking about the person that does not have clue and sets out to shoot at a hundered and cant do it....... everyone of you have seen this person and know what I am talking about......

I shoot at a private hunting and fishing club with a range out to two hundred yards...... So we are not full of precision shooters only.............

Most of you I dont doubt could do your one shot sight in............ great for you....... I was simply posting an easy way to do it..........

To the people that say waisting 5 minutes to do this is making you wait....... You probably should not have read this post and waisted time responding because obviously your the only person that matters, and your time is way to prescious to even be reading this now.........

</div></div>

Just stop digging already....... </div></div>


I just want to see if he can dig all the way to China.

 

[juliomorris]

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I'm an idiot to i bore sight at 100 fire one round. then I use my mil/mil to make final adjustments and on several occasions I have been in the x ring with the second shot. most offend it takes 3 shots. So whose the idiot wasting ammo.

Even when I first started shooting with a scope I sighted at 100 but i used the walkin method and was usually in the x ring in 3 or 4 shots. Most scopes have that method in their literature but mos people don't directions.

 

[eclipse57]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i actually use the OP's technique scaled down for zero'in my hipoint pistol. I shoe goo a cardboard target to my barrel, then shoot again at 4 inches and then at 5 feet </div></div>

After today, I needed this. Even if I did blow beer out my nose.

OP another 100 yard idiot here. Guilty as charged!

 

[turbo54]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remau308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tigerfan9</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I l seen a guy one time, bore sight his gun, did not realize that he had a cant on his mount and sent the ruond right over a back stop.............. </div></div>

Trying to figure this one out....how does cant come in to play? if i line up the POA (reticle) and the bore at the same spot, cant is irrelevant. not saying the guy didn't launch one but it wasn't bc of the cant.

You now say the people on here are experts, etc but called everyone morons initially but you still want to stick with your method of wasting time and ammo sighting in a rifle. </div></div>

Are we the only two that has noticed this comment? Should ruin all credibility with this comment alone. </div></div>

I sure would like the OP to explain this for us.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

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Turbo...come on man, do you really think he can explain this?


So now we have gone from insults to flattery, idiots to professional shooters.

For the record I am not a pro and I am not the best shooter at my club, high in the running but not the best. I never said I was any of these things.

Yes I have used the method of moving crosshairs to the impact point as well. I often sight in without paper at all. Which is what I am doing at the 200yd line where the steel resides.

 

[briscoetab]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

Chiller,
I know what you’re talking about, thought I was the only one that knew what MOPP is. Around here MOPP is Minute of Paper Plate.

Somebody goes and grabs a paper plate from the camper or cabin where they are hunting and stabs it on a shrub and shoots. If they get 1 to 2 shots out of 3 on the plate they are good for the season.

I tell ya'll one thing, I am really glad I don't have to go to a range to shoot after reading about some of the stuff on the hide.

I do still have to put up with the guys who think they know everything but they are the ones shooting at paper plates at 25yds.

I'm also one for bore sighting at 100yd and shooting. This hasn't failed me ever and I don't expect it will. I am far from a firearm expert but this just seems logical.

I also don't have any fancy equipment that I think was mentioned somewhere, all I have is a rifle, scope, wind meter, target and a field book. My field book isn't anything fancy either, just my info about my weapon, a few other things wrote down that I think is important, and a record of my shooting.

If you have to tell someone something 30 times either you are wasting your time and should have stopped after the 2nd time; or you're the guy who thinks he knows everything and the people stopped listening after the 2nd time you told them so they didn't waste their time.

 

[Prebanpaul]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

"Most scopes have that method in their literature but mos people don't directions."


You said it............

 

[Chiller]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

Paul the point is we are a small population (shooters that is). When we openly call other shooters “idiots” we do them and ourselves a disservice. I am more than happy to help any shooter at any range with anything I can. On top of it, I try to refrain from throwing pejoratives about their skill or lack thereof.

Again if it works for you, more power. I and many others with significantly more skill and rounds down range have pointed out there is more than one way to “skin this cat”. Had you posed this as a possible methodology and left it at that I suspect it would not be where it is currently at.

Food for thought.

 

[Topstrap]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

I think this thread went South not so much for the way he was explaining how he did his sight in routine but the comment about those that did it at 100 yards are "idiots". I don't think he had a clue as to the skill level/experience that most members on the Hide have and how the use of "idiots" would impact his thread.

As a collective I doubt there is a group of more skilled long range tactical shooters anywhere on the Internet. I can see a new Hide member wanting to jump in and share things they've learned which may be far above what he's seen at ranges they've shot at before. We've all seen and heard the tales about new shooters or wannabes at a range and we've all gotten past what others are still discovering and learning about this game.

Paul might have spent a bit more time reading or searching threads on subjects he'd like to post on before jumping in with a thread like this one that went downhill fast. Sometimes a response to make things right just make the hole deeper even if that wasn't the intent.

There have been other threads similar to this one on other topics where I'm sure the OP wished they could start over again and reword their initial post. We've all had our chance to inform him of the way most of us sight in and I bet he'll give the 100 yard bore sighting another go but at least he came here because this is the best sight that I've found for the LR precision type of shooting we all enjoy for sharing and learning.

Topstrap

 

[338LM]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MontanaMarine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On a proper benchrest, with the rifle bagged/supported snug, I've done one-round sight in at 100.

Bore sight, fire one round, look through scope and dial turrets to center reticle on the bullet hole.

More than one way to get it done.</div></div>

Been doing the 100 yard bore sight, shoot 1 shot, put crosshairs back on the initial target position, then dial in crosshair to the bullet hole location. Been doing this for many many years.

 

[Prebanpaul]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

Top strap, I have come to respect you, not for this last post (I thank you for that) but for other things that I have read that you posted.

I learned two things,

1.Read what you write to see how people could percieve it.

Second eleborate fully, on what I was venting about.... I was talking about the people who show up and shoot 30 rounds at a hundered to get er sighted in. The reason for the post had nothing to do with the actuall four round sight in... It had to do with the guy that had the ar15 that day at the range and fired 30 rounds to get his rifle sighted in at 100 yrds and kept looking down the barrel. ( Their are skill level diffrences)

What else I have learned one shot sight in, I have seen it before with shepard scopes just really never trusted it. Now i know its perfectly safe. Their are some really smart people on sniperhide in the new side of shooting that I am taking up.(long range). I have read some post (other topics) of others posting on this perticular thread, and seen that I truly offended them and did not mean too, could see the lack of detail on my part from the first post and learned to be more detailed in the post.

This will be my last post on this thread...... Chiller,top strap thanks I will respect you for your post. To anyone that actually posted something usefull Thank you. VJJ I have no respect for you.... I have read several post on others threads, I respect you as a member of hide but will just ask after you post your response to this, please dont post on another post that I leave..... I have no respect for you and that was based on reading over two hundered responses that you have left other members.... You I am sure somewhere have left a post that has helped someone...... some where..... I just can not find it.

 

[19Scout77]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

HUNDRED

 

[VJJPunisher]

Re: 4 round sight in ..... why do people fight this.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Prebanpaul</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
VJJ I have no respect for you.... I have read several post on others threads, I respect you as a member of hide but will just ask after you post your response to this, please dont post on another post that I leave..... I have no respect for you and that was based on reading over two hundered responses that you have left other members.... You I am sure somewhere have left a post that has helped someone...... some where..... I just can not find it.</div></div>

I recommend an english writing class, write that down