Was just on Fox , Law Enforcement reported that all the news has been mostly inaccurate to the events and that Law Enforcement is looking at what happen to come up with answers to all the questions. Sadly lack of experience of not having a school shooting lead to what will be determine as failures of the system.
Uvalde Shooter Fired Outside School for 12 Minutes Before Entering
As police detailed new timeline of mass shooting at elementary school, residents expressed frustration about the time it took for law enforcement to end the shooting. Videos circulated on social media showing parents confronting police outside the building.www.wsj.com
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Always carry. Obviously the cops would’ve probably shot anyone in the back that tried to go in. They definitely would shoot you once they came in behind you, but if your kid is in there, you gotta go in.
I’ve said it before, I bet most folks here, practice more than most cops. I’m not talking about a fat that can’t get his micro nine out from under his beer gut, spraying rounds in the general direction of the target and potentially doing more harm than good. I’m saying, carry a gun, always, and be proficient with it. We are on our own.
I’ve said it before, I bet most folks here, practice more than most cops. I’m not talking about a fat that can’t get his micro nine out from under his beer gut, spraying rounds in the general direction of the target and potentially doing more harm than good. I’m saying, carry a gun, always, and be proficient with it. We are on our own.
NO, I choose not to engage because he paints in one color and the world just isnt that way.
A deputy had a child killed in the school while they were waiting outside? I don't know how he'll stay on the job after that.
Can you imagine one of those chicken shit bastards pulling you over for a turn signal or a brake light out?
Can you imagine one of those chicken shit bastards pulling you over for a turn signal or a brake light out?
They’ll arrest or shoot you if you say anything about their cowardice.
Texas police defend 'complex' shooting response as more details emerge
Law enforcement officials in Texas defended their response to the Uvalde elementary school shooting amid questions about why officers waited an hour to engage the shooter who killed 19 children and two teachers.
“The reality is, as horrible as what happened, it could have been worse," Abbott said Wednesday. "The reason it was not worse is because law enforcement officials did what they do. They showed amazing courage by running toward gunfire for the singular purpose of trying to save lives. And it is a fact that because of their quick response getting on the scene, being able to respond to the gunman and eliminate the gunman, they were able to save lives. Unfortunately, not enough.”
^^^^^False.
C’mon guys it just a few…dozen… bad apples. But hey, at least it’s in the deep blue state of Texas. If this was in a real state the situation would have been over in a few minutes
Edit: Oh hey, look. Some of the first officers in GOT THEIR OWN FUCKING KIDS OUT FIRST THEN LET THIS ASSHOLE KEEP SHOOTING.
www.zerohedge.com
Do any of you fucking cucks still want to argue for state-run security?
Edit: Oh hey, look. Some of the first officers in GOT THEIR OWN FUCKING KIDS OUT FIRST THEN LET THIS ASSHOLE KEEP SHOOTING.
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
Do any of you fucking cucks still want to argue for state-run security?
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Furthermore:
Texas police defend 'complex' shooting response as more details emerge
Law enforcement officials in Texas defended their response to the Uvalde elementary school shooting amid questions about why officers waited an hour to engage the shooter who killed 19 children and two teachers.www.yahoo.com
“The reality is, as horrible as what happened, it could have been worse," Abbott said Wednesday. "The reason it was not worse is because law enforcement officials did what they do. They showed amazing courage by running toward gunfire for the singular purpose of trying to save lives. And it is a fact that because of their quick response getting on the scene, being able to respond to the gunman and eliminate the gunman, they were able to save lives. Unfortunately, not enough.”
^^^^^False.
"He said they were getting negotiators on-site but later added that the shooter did not have demands."
Since when do we negotiate with mass murderers?!??! I didn't think my opinion of the situation could be more sour then I read that.
bUt TeXaS iS So baDAss EveRY StaTe sHouLd bE liKE tHeM!!!!
They didn't even make it to the top 10 for the first states to pass constitutional carry give me a break. And for their governor to come out and not own up to the errors is just gross. Every state has it's issues but for all the talk Texas does, they are all hat and no cattle at this point. Blue by 2022.
I was heated and about to hit post until I remembered Dallas PD sent in a robot with explosives to take out a guy who was shooting at their officers. But no dice for kids locked in a room with an active shooter.
I say most only because there are still parts of this country where this shit is unlikely to happen.......however.....the more I ponder it I guess anywhere its a possibility.
Most towns have a volunteer fire departments, maybe its time to start Volunteer Insertion School Teams . Who wouldn't volunteer for that , train in the schools for all the scenarios. You would have a waiting list for members trying to get in.
Kids got killed and you still have to try and bring your personal hate of a state full of people who don’t know you exist into it....real cool guy here everyone lol.
Ok this is beyond criminal considering police were on the scene from get go at least the two copers that investigated his car crash.
''The gunman lingered outside for 12 minutes firing shots at people in a funeral home across the street, before scaling a fence onto school grounds where he fired more shots.''
And some LE officers went in to get their kids out , then let things play out for an hour so they could bring in a negotiator?
''The gunman lingered outside for 12 minutes firing shots at people in a funeral home across the street, before scaling a fence onto school grounds where he fired more shots.''
And some LE officers went in to get their kids out , then let things play out for an hour so they could bring in a negotiator?
There were plenty of guns there, so unfortunately, no- it’s an example of why someone with a gun along with training and courage is needed
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“Not right”? All officers involved in this debacle should be swinging from lamp posts
They would absolutely not keep me out of that building alive I can tell you that! I would have my gun and I'd shoot them if that's what it took to get to my child with a gunman!
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Total breakdown it appears ,I'm not bashing but you shouldn't have shown up with a chest rig and AR standing around outside its a bad perception to the public .
I’d be just as pissed if it happened in Iowa. Didn’t mean to derail and start thrashing on Texas. Everyone is poo pooing the police so not sure what the difference is between that and the state it happened in.
My frustration is that the kids died needlessly just the same
Uvalde Shooter Fired Outside School for 12 Minutes Before Entering
Local residents express anger and frustration as police detail new timeline of mass shooting
UVALDE, Texas—Local residents voiced anger Thursday about the time it took to end the mass shooting at an elementary school here, as police laid out a fresh timeline that showed the gunman entered the building unobstructed after lingering outside for 12 minutes firing shots.
Victor Escalon, a regional director for the Texas Department of Public Safety, said in a briefing that the now-deceased gunman, 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, lingered outside Robb Elementary School for 12 minutes firing shots before walking into the school and barricading himself in a classroom where he killed 19 children and two teachers.
Mr. Escalon said he couldn’t say why no one stopped Ramos from entering the school during that time Tuesday. Most of the shots Ramos fired came during the first several minutes after he entered the school, Mr. Escalon said.
People who arrived at the school while Ramos locked himself in a classroom, or saw videos of police waiting outside, were furious.
A PODCAST FROM THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
U valde Parents Question Police Response to School Shooting
“ The police were doing nothing,” said Angeli Rose Gomez, who after learning about the shooting drove 40 miles to Robb Elementary, where her children are in second and third grade. “They were just standing outside the fence. They weren’t going in there or running anywhere.”
Mr. Escalon said officers inside the school were evacuating students and school employees from the premises, as well as calling for backup. “There’s a lot going on,” he said.
Department of Public Safety officials previously said an armed school officer confronted Ramos as he arrived at the school. Mr. Escalon said Thursday that information was incorrect and no one encountered Ramos as he arrived at the school. “There was not an officer readily available and armed,” Mr. Escalon said.
Ramos shot his grandmother Tuesday morning and drove her truck to Robb Elementary School, crashing the vehicle into a nearby ditch at 11:28 a.m., according to the timeline laid out by Mr. Escalon. He then began shooting at people at a funeral home across the street, prompting a 911 call reporting a gunman at the school at 11:30. Ramos climbed a chain-link fence about 8 feet high onto school grounds and began firing before walking inside, unimpeded, at 11:40. The first police arrived on the scene at 11:44 and exchanged gunfire with Ramos, who locked himself in a fourth-grade classroom. There, he killed the students and teachers.
A Border Patrol tactical team went into the school an hour later, around 12:40 p.m., and was able to get into the classroom and kill Ramos, Mr. Escalon said.
Ms. Gomez, a farm supervisor, said that she was one of numerous parents waiting outside the school who began encouraging—first politely, and then with more urgency—police and other law enforcement to enter the school sooner. After a few minutes, she said, U.S. Marshals put her in handcuffs, telling her she was being arrested for intervening in an active investigation.
Ms. Gomez said she convinced local Uvalde police officers whom she knew to persuade the marshals to set her free.
A spokesman for the U.S. Marshals Service said deputy marshals never placed anyone in handcuffs while securing Robb Elementary’s perimeter. “Our deputy marshals maintained order and peace in the midst of the grief-stricken community that was gathering around the school,” he said.
Ms. Gomez described the scene as frantic. She said she saw a father tackled and thrown to the ground by police and a third pepper-sprayed. Once freed from her cuffs, Ms. Gomez made her distance from the crowd, jumped the school fence, and ran inside to grab her two children. She sprinted out of the school with them.
Videos circulated on social media Wednesday and Thursday of frantic family members trying to get access to Robb Elementary as the attack was unfolding, some of them yelling at police who blocked them from entering.
“Shoot him or something!” a woman’s voice can be heard yelling on a video, before a man is heard saying about the officers, “They’re all just [expletive] parked outside, dude. They need to go in there.”
The videos were collected by Storyful, a social-media research company owned by News Corp, parent company of The Wall Street Journal.
Bob Estrada lives directly across the street from the school, which his grandson attends. The 77-year-old said he and his wife walked outside when they heard gunshots and were confused why the police who arrived didn’t immediately enter.
“They are trying to cover something up,” he said of the information released Thursday. “I think the cops were waiting for backup because they didn’t want to go into the school.”
The Uvalde Police Department couldn’t be reached for comment.
Asked at the press conference why law enforcement weren’t able to respond in the initial 12 minutes Ramos was outside the school, Mr. Escalon said that was part of the investigation. “Our job is to report the facts and have answers. We’re not there yet,” he said.
Mr. Escalon also said police aren’t sure how Ramos was able to enter the school building. “We will find out more about why it was unlocked—or maybe it was locked—but right now it appears that it was unlocked,” he said.
Jay Martin, who lives four blocks from Robb Elementary and walked there after hearing gunfire, said the police’s timeline doesn’t match what he saw in person and online.
“Nothing is adding up,” he said. “People are just really frustrated because no one is coming out and telling us the real truth of what went down.”
But Danny Ruiz, whose great-niece died in the attack, said he arrived at the school after hearing gunfire and felt grateful for the police response.
“The Border Patrol agent who took him out, to me, that guy is a hero,” said Mr. Ruiz, 51.
After the confrontation at the school ended with Ramos dead, school buses began to arrive to transport students from the school, according to Ms. Gomez. She said she saw police use a Taser on a local father who approached the bus to collect his child.
“They didn’t do that to the shooter, but they did that to us. That’s how it felt,” Ms. Gomez said.
Thursday’s expressions of frustration came after more than 1,000 people from this grieving city gathered Wednesday night for a prayer vigil.
“God is here with us tonight,” Pastor Tony Gruben, of Baptist Temple Church, told the people gathered at the Uvalde County Fairplex. “God still loves you and God still loves those little children.”
Local residents packed the stands, spilled into the aisles and stood on the dirt rodeo floor where the ministers preached from a stage under flags of Texas and the U.S. White cowboy hats dotted the audience along with scores of maroon T-shirts that said “Uvalde Coyotes,” the high school mascot.
President Biden and first lady Jill Biden will travel to Uvalde on Sunday to grieve with the community, the White House said.
— Alicia A. Caldwell and Sadie Gurman contributed to this article.
Write to Elizabeth Findell at [email protected], Rob Copeland at [email protected] and Douglas Belkin at [email protected]
The Texas School Shooting
Key developments, selected by the editors
Shooter Fired Outside School for 12 Minutes Before Entering
Thousands Gather for Prayer Vigil
Uvalde Families Share the Victims’ Stories
Who Are the Victims?
What We Know About the Shooting
Texas School Shooting Is Deadliest After Sandy Hook Slayings
Responding Border Patrol Agents Are From Elite Team
Texas Governor Dismisses Calls for Stronger Gun Laws
Local residents express anger and frustration as police detail new timeline of mass shooting
UVALDE, Texas—Local residents voiced anger Thursday about the time it took to end the mass shooting at an elementary school here, as police laid out a fresh timeline that showed the gunman entered the building unobstructed after lingering outside for 12 minutes firing shots.
Victor Escalon, a regional director for the Texas Department of Public Safety, said in a briefing that the now-deceased gunman, 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, lingered outside Robb Elementary School for 12 minutes firing shots before walking into the school and barricading himself in a classroom where he killed 19 children and two teachers.
Mr. Escalon said he couldn’t say why no one stopped Ramos from entering the school during that time Tuesday. Most of the shots Ramos fired came during the first several minutes after he entered the school, Mr. Escalon said.
People who arrived at the school while Ramos locked himself in a classroom, or saw videos of police waiting outside, were furious.
A PODCAST FROM THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
U valde Parents Question Police Response to School Shooting
“ The police were doing nothing,” said Angeli Rose Gomez, who after learning about the shooting drove 40 miles to Robb Elementary, where her children are in second and third grade. “They were just standing outside the fence. They weren’t going in there or running anywhere.”
Mr. Escalon said officers inside the school were evacuating students and school employees from the premises, as well as calling for backup. “There’s a lot going on,” he said.
Department of Public Safety officials previously said an armed school officer confronted Ramos as he arrived at the school. Mr. Escalon said Thursday that information was incorrect and no one encountered Ramos as he arrived at the school. “There was not an officer readily available and armed,” Mr. Escalon said.
Ramos shot his grandmother Tuesday morning and drove her truck to Robb Elementary School, crashing the vehicle into a nearby ditch at 11:28 a.m., according to the timeline laid out by Mr. Escalon. He then began shooting at people at a funeral home across the street, prompting a 911 call reporting a gunman at the school at 11:30. Ramos climbed a chain-link fence about 8 feet high onto school grounds and began firing before walking inside, unimpeded, at 11:40. The first police arrived on the scene at 11:44 and exchanged gunfire with Ramos, who locked himself in a fourth-grade classroom. There, he killed the students and teachers.
A Border Patrol tactical team went into the school an hour later, around 12:40 p.m., and was able to get into the classroom and kill Ramos, Mr. Escalon said.
Ms. Gomez, a farm supervisor, said that she was one of numerous parents waiting outside the school who began encouraging—first politely, and then with more urgency—police and other law enforcement to enter the school sooner. After a few minutes, she said, U.S. Marshals put her in handcuffs, telling her she was being arrested for intervening in an active investigation.
Ms. Gomez said she convinced local Uvalde police officers whom she knew to persuade the marshals to set her free.
A spokesman for the U.S. Marshals Service said deputy marshals never placed anyone in handcuffs while securing Robb Elementary’s perimeter. “Our deputy marshals maintained order and peace in the midst of the grief-stricken community that was gathering around the school,” he said.
Ms. Gomez described the scene as frantic. She said she saw a father tackled and thrown to the ground by police and a third pepper-sprayed. Once freed from her cuffs, Ms. Gomez made her distance from the crowd, jumped the school fence, and ran inside to grab her two children. She sprinted out of the school with them.
Videos circulated on social media Wednesday and Thursday of frantic family members trying to get access to Robb Elementary as the attack was unfolding, some of them yelling at police who blocked them from entering.
“Shoot him or something!” a woman’s voice can be heard yelling on a video, before a man is heard saying about the officers, “They’re all just [expletive] parked outside, dude. They need to go in there.”
The videos were collected by Storyful, a social-media research company owned by News Corp, parent company of The Wall Street Journal.
Bob Estrada lives directly across the street from the school, which his grandson attends. The 77-year-old said he and his wife walked outside when they heard gunshots and were confused why the police who arrived didn’t immediately enter.
“They are trying to cover something up,” he said of the information released Thursday. “I think the cops were waiting for backup because they didn’t want to go into the school.”
The Uvalde Police Department couldn’t be reached for comment.
Asked at the press conference why law enforcement weren’t able to respond in the initial 12 minutes Ramos was outside the school, Mr. Escalon said that was part of the investigation. “Our job is to report the facts and have answers. We’re not there yet,” he said.
Mr. Escalon also said police aren’t sure how Ramos was able to enter the school building. “We will find out more about why it was unlocked—or maybe it was locked—but right now it appears that it was unlocked,” he said.
Jay Martin, who lives four blocks from Robb Elementary and walked there after hearing gunfire, said the police’s timeline doesn’t match what he saw in person and online.
“Nothing is adding up,” he said. “People are just really frustrated because no one is coming out and telling us the real truth of what went down.”
But Danny Ruiz, whose great-niece died in the attack, said he arrived at the school after hearing gunfire and felt grateful for the police response.
“The Border Patrol agent who took him out, to me, that guy is a hero,” said Mr. Ruiz, 51.
After the confrontation at the school ended with Ramos dead, school buses began to arrive to transport students from the school, according to Ms. Gomez. She said she saw police use a Taser on a local father who approached the bus to collect his child.
“They didn’t do that to the shooter, but they did that to us. That’s how it felt,” Ms. Gomez said.
Thursday’s expressions of frustration came after more than 1,000 people from this grieving city gathered Wednesday night for a prayer vigil.
“God is here with us tonight,” Pastor Tony Gruben, of Baptist Temple Church, told the people gathered at the Uvalde County Fairplex. “God still loves you and God still loves those little children.”
Local residents packed the stands, spilled into the aisles and stood on the dirt rodeo floor where the ministers preached from a stage under flags of Texas and the U.S. White cowboy hats dotted the audience along with scores of maroon T-shirts that said “Uvalde Coyotes,” the high school mascot.
President Biden and first lady Jill Biden will travel to Uvalde on Sunday to grieve with the community, the White House said.
— Alicia A. Caldwell and Sadie Gurman contributed to this article.
Write to Elizabeth Findell at [email protected], Rob Copeland at [email protected] and Douglas Belkin at [email protected]
The Texas School Shooting
Key developments, selected by the editors
Shooter Fired Outside School for 12 Minutes Before Entering
Thousands Gather for Prayer Vigil
Uvalde Families Share the Victims’ Stories
Who Are the Victims?
What We Know About the Shooting
Texas School Shooting Is Deadliest After Sandy Hook Slayings
Responding Border Patrol Agents Are From Elite Team
Texas Governor Dismisses Calls for Stronger Gun Laws
I’ll jump on the bandwagon after it is shown that a group of le weren’t already in the school and the guys out side were just keeping the school uncluttered.
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I see the timeline above. Booooooo!
Ps. If it had been less than 30f the shooter would have frozen and broken apart like in terminator 2. But then again school would have been canceled before hand because of the extreme conditions. Damn global warming.
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I see the timeline above. Booooooo!
Ps. If it had been less than 30f the shooter would have frozen and broken apart like in terminator 2. But then again school would have been canceled before hand because of the extreme conditions. Damn global warming.
Cops will always lie to cover their asses (and pensions)
I hope they are honest and report exactly what happen even if it was 100% wrong so others can learn so they don't make the same mistakes. There will be more school shootings so why not helps others to possibly stop the death.
Not sure about the difference between the state and the LE in the state? Really? God damn. The people in the state don’t pick the LE. The people in the state have no say so in their training or how they are used. I live in TX and blew off your initial post because of how emotional the topic is but after reading your second post your earlier comment was fucking stupid.
You know the answer to your question. Things like this empowers gov’t. They aren’t in the business of fixing anything. Lying, stealing, killing, and oppressing is what it does. Any and all on gov’t cheese are complicit.
You're right of course. More information could change the perspective and mob mentality is never a good thing and is a poor choice to pass judgement before all of the facts are in.
Yet, somehow, I can't help but feel that there is simply too much evidence already out here that would indicate otherwise.
At this point there better be very clear information that justifies the officer's actions.
This is totally how the state polices itself, fear not citizens
You’re right, they don’t pick them. They are supposed to be better citizens (and by definition are part of the community) than the people they choose to protect and serve. In this case, the mothers and fathers were the better citizens.
That’s all I will say because this thread seems to be focused on how to learn from the situation which I appreciate.
The off-duty Border Patrol Agent that took out the shooter had a close call.
nypost.com
Hero border agent’s cap shows how close he was to being killed by Salvador Ramos
The agent — a member of the CBP’s elite Border Patrol Tactical Unit, or BORTAC – was wearing the cap when he rushed into Robb Elementary School amid the rampage, Fox News reported.
nypost.com
May be one day in the distant past the LE were some of the best people in the community but that seems to have changed, to some extent. I am not saying all LE are bad but details from yesterday are infuriating.
That's sick is what that is! Sick sob did the shooting and sick sob cops not only sat there, but actually kept parents from their kids. It's sick!!!
I'll add this... Law enforcement isn't even in the top 10 most dangerous occupations in the US.
Being a trash collector is literally more dangerous than being a cop.
Mike
The government is either for the people or it isn’t. We all know it is a cesspool filled with greed and unfathomable evil. What kind of men would work for an organization that fits this narrative? Worse yet, what kind of men would use violence to defend such positions? I can tell you that anyone on the inside of gov, regardless of position or their own thoughts and views isn’t worth a lick. They are either ignorant, stupid, complicit, or directly involved with the attack on America. There is your reasoning or at least mine.
Police are not bound by law to protect you. Prepare accordinglyGot al the military arms and armor. Big and bad.
Until a pimple faced kid is shooting innocents. Then it’s hide time.
Onlookers urged police to charge into Texas school
A mass shooting at a Texas elementary school left 19 children and two adults dead, adding to a gruesome series of mass killings in America.apnews.com
Javier Cazares, whose fourth grade daughter, Jacklyn Cazares, was killed in the attack, said he raced to the school when he heard about the shooting, arriving while police were still gathered outside the building.
Upset that police were not moving in, he raised the idea of charging into the school with several other bystanders.
“Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to,” he said. “More could have been done.”
“They were unprepared,” he added.
Department of Public Safety Director Steve McCraw told reporters that 40 minutes to an hour elapsed from when Ramos opened fire on the school security officer to when the tactical team shot him, though a department spokesman said later that they could not give a solid estimate of how long the gunman was in the school or when he was killed.
“The bottom line is law enforcement was there,” McCraw said. “They did engage immediately. They did contain (Ramos) in the classroom.”
I love this place. I’m glad some understand.
We have to save ourselves.
But can that cop now live with his conscience of the results of his inactions?
MOTHER FUCKING GLOWIES CONFIRMED
buffalonews.com
Authorities investigating if retired federal agent knew of Buffalo mass shooting plans in advance
Officials are investigating whether a retired federal agent had about 30 minutes advance notice of a white supremacist's plans to murder Black people at a Buffalo supermarket.
Surprise, surprise , surprise. Now time for someone to see if any glowies were involved with the Texas shooter.MOTHER FUCKING GLOWIES CONFIRMED
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Authorities investigating if retired federal agent knew of Buffalo mass shooting plans in advance
Officials are investigating whether a retired federal agent had about 30 minutes advance notice of a white supremacist's plans to murder Black people at a Buffalo supermarket.
Groomed him into doing it.MOTHER FUCKING GLOWIES CONFIRMED
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Authorities investigating if retired federal agent knew of Buffalo mass shooting plans in advance
Officials are investigating whether a retired federal agent had about 30 minutes advance notice of a white supremacist's plans to murder Black people at a Buffalo supermarket.
There are ties in a chat server that point towards yes. Definitely
I had to remind my wife of that today. No duty to respond to 911 calls or duty to protect.
2005 SCOTUS Ruling: Police Not Constitutionally Bound to Protect Citizens
A 2005 Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) ruling that received little attention when handed down, but which is extremely pertinent to today's gun |
www.breitbart.com
“The Court went on to reaffirm the DeShaney ruling that there is no affirmative right to aid by the government or the police found in the U.S. Constitution, and thus no legal recourse could be brought thereunder. [16] The “no duty to protect” rule remains unwavering and the law today.”
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The difference between a guy who sees bad guys and acts accordingly....and guys who wanna badge, a car, and power.The off-duty Border Patrol Agent that took out the shooter had a close call.
Hero border agent’s cap shows how close he was to being killed by Salvador Ramos
The agent — a member of the CBP’s elite Border Patrol Tactical Unit, or BORTAC – was wearing the cap when he rushed into Robb Elementary School amid the rampage, Fox News reported.
Can one of you Texans weigh in on this.
Allegedly this kid shooter bought these weapons just a couple days before the shooting (like 3 days on the one and 5 days on the other ? sumpthin like that).
Does Texas not have a waiting period ?
I thought the waiting period was national and when they run your papers sometimes they get an immediate response and other times you have a mandatory wait time.
Some kid that just turned 18 surely got flagged for the mandatory wait....right ?
My thing is....how the fuck did a kid that just turned 18 buy a gun and have it in his hands so fast ?
It's just fishy, the gun timeline.
Maybe I'm completely wrong here.....but what if I'm right ?
I'm thinking this makes it much more likely someone provided the guns to the kid and the "he bought them" is an attempt to cover that up ?
I've never bought a gun in Texas so I haven't the foggiest.
Allegedly this kid shooter bought these weapons just a couple days before the shooting (like 3 days on the one and 5 days on the other ? sumpthin like that).
Does Texas not have a waiting period ?
I thought the waiting period was national and when they run your papers sometimes they get an immediate response and other times you have a mandatory wait time.
Some kid that just turned 18 surely got flagged for the mandatory wait....right ?
My thing is....how the fuck did a kid that just turned 18 buy a gun and have it in his hands so fast ?
It's just fishy, the gun timeline.
Maybe I'm completely wrong here.....but what if I'm right ?
I'm thinking this makes it much more likely someone provided the guns to the kid and the "he bought them" is an attempt to cover that up ?
I've never bought a gun in Texas so I haven't the foggiest.
Can't havè it both ways.....
I'd rather have someone pressuring the shooter even with wild accuracy and full bravery than a bunch of cockbags sitting outside saying I hear shooting.
SFOD capabilities are not coming.
Seems like you want to be told to wait for your means of protection.
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