6.5 Creedmor Help??
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It would be for tactical comps and maybe high power/F-class.
Your thoughts as always are appreciated.
Rob I do apologize for bringing up the sponsorship. As I said previously I hold what you and Team Blaster do in high regard (I hope someday to get up there).
It would be for tactical comps and maybe high power/F-class.
Your thoughts as always are appreciated.
Rob I do apologize for bringing up the sponsorship. As I said previously I hold what you and Team Blaster do in high regard (I hope someday to get up there).
Re: 6.5 Creedmor Help??
From the looks of those stocks they don't let you go weak handed which will be a problem as you sometimes do at tactical comps. I'm not a fan of pistol grips but that's personal preference although you have to be able to run the gun from both sides.
Had that button pushed too many times recently and had to say my peace on it. It's over now.
From the looks of those stocks they don't let you go weak handed which will be a problem as you sometimes do at tactical comps. I'm not a fan of pistol grips but that's personal preference although you have to be able to run the gun from both sides.
Had that button pushed too many times recently and had to say my peace on it. It's over now.
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I talked with Gary and he is going to be building the cheek so you can go support side.
I talked with Gary and he is going to be building the cheek so you can go support side.
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Well there you go. That was the only problem I saw with them. Not my cup of tea but variety is the spice of life and everyone has their own likes and dislikes. All that counts is that it works for the shooter.
Well there you go. That was the only problem I saw with them. Not my cup of tea but variety is the spice of life and everyone has their own likes and dislikes. All that counts is that it works for the shooter.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HotIce</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For God's sake, if you planning to use the rifle in tacticool competitions, do not build a tube gun.
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Why?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HotIce</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For God's sake, if you planning to use the rifle in tacticool competitions, do not build a tube gun.
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Why?
Re: 6.5 Creedmor Help??
Hey Jedi
Shooters asked for the information and shooters are getting the info they want and asked for.
You can go thru these forum's and see on multiple times Rob has shared our load data on numerous other rounds other then Hornady.
The fact is and still will remain we shoot Hornady ammunition because it does give us better accuracy and better performance then any other ammunition on the market.
Four + years ago when Drake and I showed up at the SH 25 hr bash we were the only two shooters there using Hornady and there was little to zero talk on these forums about their ammunition.
It is amazing now how many topics, shooters and great groups and high praises for their ammunition are on these forums now that shooters eyes have been opened to the value,superior ballistics and accuracy. Its no wonder why so many shooters are switching over.
Hey enjoy your 6.5 if that is what you have and want to use groove on bro no one is bashing you but in the end you are getting very little in gains over a shooter that is shooting the 6.5 Creedmoor and you are paying almost twice the price for it, and on top of that your match scores are not kicking the doors off the 6.5 Creedmoor so in the end how good is good.
The 6.5 Creedmoor as Drake has broke down beyond what was needed explains it all and the value alone is a eye opener.
It has also said from numerous other shooters in this thread at the performance and how happy they are with the 6.5 Creedmoor, so it isnt just coming from a few sponsored shooters at how good this round really is.
Hey Jedi
Shooters asked for the information and shooters are getting the info they want and asked for.
You can go thru these forum's and see on multiple times Rob has shared our load data on numerous other rounds other then Hornady.
The fact is and still will remain we shoot Hornady ammunition because it does give us better accuracy and better performance then any other ammunition on the market.
Four + years ago when Drake and I showed up at the SH 25 hr bash we were the only two shooters there using Hornady and there was little to zero talk on these forums about their ammunition.
It is amazing now how many topics, shooters and great groups and high praises for their ammunition are on these forums now that shooters eyes have been opened to the value,superior ballistics and accuracy. Its no wonder why so many shooters are switching over.
Hey enjoy your 6.5 if that is what you have and want to use groove on bro no one is bashing you but in the end you are getting very little in gains over a shooter that is shooting the 6.5 Creedmoor and you are paying almost twice the price for it, and on top of that your match scores are not kicking the doors off the 6.5 Creedmoor so in the end how good is good.
The 6.5 Creedmoor as Drake has broke down beyond what was needed explains it all and the value alone is a eye opener.
It has also said from numerous other shooters in this thread at the performance and how happy they are with the 6.5 Creedmoor, so it isnt just coming from a few sponsored shooters at how good this round really is.
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With the smaller case capacity of the x47 won't you need to push it to fairly high pressures to keep up with the .260 and CM?
If you're pushing the x47 to pressures that will 'spank' a Creedmoor, will those higher pressures further compromise barrel life?
I have a 6.5 barrel in the mail and need to know.
Thanks.
With the smaller case capacity of the x47 won't you need to push it to fairly high pressures to keep up with the .260 and CM?
If you're pushing the x47 to pressures that will 'spank' a Creedmoor, will those higher pressures further compromise barrel life?
I have a 6.5 barrel in the mail and need to know.
Thanks.
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...that pretty much states the case, jeff'...
...the 6.5 Creedmore is the pick of the litter...
...that pretty much states the case, jeff'...
...the 6.5 Creedmore is the pick of the litter...
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Do any of you guys know anything about the new loads hornady has listed on their site? It looks like the fps is slower for the 140's, did they test with a shorter barrel?
Do any of you guys know anything about the new loads hornady has listed on their site? It looks like the fps is slower for the 140's, did they test with a shorter barrel?
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I was wondering how long it would take for this topic to go down hill about mine is better than yours.
Jedi,
Your the only one I know who can get the kind of velocities out of the 6.5x47s that you claim. I have a shooting buddy who can't even come close to my 260 with his 6.5x47 without blowing primers.
Its a simple fact the CM and the 260 are bigger cases and will push bullets faster than the 6.5x47 on average. Maybe your cronograph is like my old one. I was getting close to 3000fps out of my AMAXs in my 260 but then it didn't work out that way in the real world.
I don't know Rob but from all of his posts on here he seems like a stand up guy and is always willing to help others, so enough of the "Your sponsered by Hornady" crap.
For the rest of you guys wanting to know about the 6.5x47 or the 260 or the CM just pick one you "WILL" be happy with it.
I was wondering how long it would take for this topic to go down hill about mine is better than yours.
Jedi,
Your the only one I know who can get the kind of velocities out of the 6.5x47s that you claim. I have a shooting buddy who can't even come close to my 260 with his 6.5x47 without blowing primers.
Its a simple fact the CM and the 260 are bigger cases and will push bullets faster than the 6.5x47 on average. Maybe your cronograph is like my old one. I was getting close to 3000fps out of my AMAXs in my 260 but then it didn't work out that way in the real world.
I don't know Rob but from all of his posts on here he seems like a stand up guy and is always willing to help others, so enough of the "Your sponsered by Hornady" crap.
For the rest of you guys wanting to know about the 6.5x47 or the 260 or the CM just pick one you "WILL" be happy with it.
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Or maybe it's that his chronohraph is actually just a QL projection, with a little wishful thinking...
Or maybe it's that his chronohraph is actually just a QL projection, with a little wishful thinking...
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I'll have my 6.5x47 done shortly... I'll do the load dev and post the results... and compare and contrast to the 6.5CM...
Nothing against any of them (.260, and 6.5CM) really... just what I wanted.
I've seen some of Jedi's results, targets, and chrono numbers.
There are some that said that the 155 scenar couldn't do 300fps safely in his rig... We'll I've seen it done, and I've shot his rig out to 1K. It IS that fast, and it is that accurate.
QL does a good job predicting, but real world dope at TV don't lie...lol
I'm gonna use QO to get me in the ball park and cross reference it with real dope. We'll see how it goes.
Team blaster has some good shit goin on too... good on you guys for finding something that works for you. That's what all this is about. Find something that works for you, know it well, and be confident that you will hit at any distance with it. The rest is just...well... it just is...lol
cheers
-Wil
I'll have my 6.5x47 done shortly... I'll do the load dev and post the results... and compare and contrast to the 6.5CM...
Nothing against any of them (.260, and 6.5CM) really... just what I wanted.
I've seen some of Jedi's results, targets, and chrono numbers.
There are some that said that the 155 scenar couldn't do 300fps safely in his rig... We'll I've seen it done, and I've shot his rig out to 1K. It IS that fast, and it is that accurate.
QL does a good job predicting, but real world dope at TV don't lie...lol
I'm gonna use QO to get me in the ball park and cross reference it with real dope. We'll see how it goes.
Team blaster has some good shit goin on too... good on you guys for finding something that works for you. That's what all this is about. Find something that works for you, know it well, and be confident that you will hit at any distance with it. The rest is just...well... it just is...lol
cheers
-Wil
Re: 6.5 Creedmor Help??
6.5 Creedmoor project is finished.
123gr Lapua
39.1 gr. Varget
CCI BR2
COAL 1.775 .0010 into the lands
.0060 Short throat reamer from PT&G
2940 fps when my chrony is working.
Last group of the day at 200 Yards........
After I get back from my last match of the year I'm going to try 139's and Ramsot Hunter. I haven't used any ball powder in this, but hey thats the fun part for me. Might even try some factory ammo for grins!!!
OH Yeah..... hers's my home made garage built gun....old Rem 700 and a pacnor medium palma with a few adjustments.....
6.5 Creedmoor project is finished.
123gr Lapua
39.1 gr. Varget
CCI BR2
COAL 1.775 .0010 into the lands
.0060 Short throat reamer from PT&G
2940 fps when my chrony is working.
Last group of the day at 200 Yards........
After I get back from my last match of the year I'm going to try 139's and Ramsot Hunter. I haven't used any ball powder in this, but hey thats the fun part for me. Might even try some factory ammo for grins!!!
OH Yeah..... hers's my home made garage built gun....old Rem 700 and a pacnor medium palma with a few adjustments.....
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Nice group Chuck!
The gun looks better with the barrel and brake painted.
Steve
Nice group Chuck!
The gun looks better with the barrel and brake painted.
Steve
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Team Blaster and all other 6.5 Creedmor shooters......
Open ended question. Do you use factory ammo, factory, loads and lengths, or do you try to get all that you can get out of it (length, powder, bullets, etc)???
I am about to try some of your Kool-Aide.....
Team Blaster and all other 6.5 Creedmor shooters......
Open ended question. Do you use factory ammo, factory, loads and lengths, or do you try to get all that you can get out of it (length, powder, bullets, etc)???
I am about to try some of your Kool-Aide.....
Re: 6.5 Creedmor Help??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Team Blaster and all other 6.5 Creedmor shooters......
Open ended question. Do you use factory ammo, factory, loads and lengths, or do you try to get all that you can get out of it (length, powder, bullets, etc)???
I am about to try some of your Kool-Aide..... </div></div>
Std. hornady die with micro seating stem. 140gr amax over 42gr RL17 2.8" and soon to try the 139Scenar. I've had such good luck with sticking right around the factory charge weights but switching to RL17 its worth the switch for me. Shooting 200yds @ 3/8 plate, 41.5gr h4350 over 140gr amax load dinged and dented it pretty good, 42gr RL17 over the 140's punched the amaxs clean through at 350 and thats with the starting load with the RL17. I think i'll stay with that charge has plenty of oomph for me, YMMV 24"bbl BTW
O yeah Short Action Customs rocks!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Team Blaster and all other 6.5 Creedmor shooters......
Open ended question. Do you use factory ammo, factory, loads and lengths, or do you try to get all that you can get out of it (length, powder, bullets, etc)???
I am about to try some of your Kool-Aide..... </div></div>
Std. hornady die with micro seating stem. 140gr amax over 42gr RL17 2.8" and soon to try the 139Scenar. I've had such good luck with sticking right around the factory charge weights but switching to RL17 its worth the switch for me. Shooting 200yds @ 3/8 plate, 41.5gr h4350 over 140gr amax load dinged and dented it pretty good, 42gr RL17 over the 140's punched the amaxs clean through at 350 and thats with the starting load with the RL17. I think i'll stay with that charge has plenty of oomph for me, YMMV 24"bbl BTW
O yeah Short Action Customs rocks!
Re: 6.5 Creedmor Help??
It took me a while to warm up to the 6.5 CM.
I did something really wrong to my new barss when I first started this project.
Then when I went out to shoot, it was not a good day, group wise.
Some how I mixed up my shell holders,#2 instead of a#3, and ran 20 or so pieces of brass through my prep and loading procedure.
I tried to blame the brass, then it was the dies, then it was the 6.5 CM in general.
Then I caught the shell holder mix up.
I abused myself for a while and moved on........... As you can see by my earlier post it shoots great now.
I had Dave cut a short throat reamer for this gun.
My belief is that the 6.5 CM just does not have the case capacity to drive the heavier bullets past 2900 fps with out pushing my brass to the limit. I know guys say they can do it, but then they complain that the primer pockets are lose after only 2 loadings. I've loaded my stuff 5 or 6 times and every thing is still kosher.
The short throat allows me to run a 123gr Lapua .010 into the lands at 2.775 oal.
I am planning on trying 139s when I can get some H4350.
I am very happy now and if I can get to 2850 with a 139 that will be good and about all I want to try to get out of it.
It took me a while to warm up to the 6.5 CM.
I did something really wrong to my new barss when I first started this project.
Then when I went out to shoot, it was not a good day, group wise.
Some how I mixed up my shell holders,#2 instead of a#3, and ran 20 or so pieces of brass through my prep and loading procedure.
I tried to blame the brass, then it was the dies, then it was the 6.5 CM in general.
Then I caught the shell holder mix up.
I abused myself for a while and moved on........... As you can see by my earlier post it shoots great now.
I had Dave cut a short throat reamer for this gun.
My belief is that the 6.5 CM just does not have the case capacity to drive the heavier bullets past 2900 fps with out pushing my brass to the limit. I know guys say they can do it, but then they complain that the primer pockets are lose after only 2 loadings. I've loaded my stuff 5 or 6 times and every thing is still kosher.
The short throat allows me to run a 123gr Lapua .010 into the lands at 2.775 oal.
I am planning on trying 139s when I can get some H4350.
I am very happy now and if I can get to 2850 with a 139 that will be good and about all I want to try to get out of it.
Re: 6.5 Creedmor Help??
Standard Hornady dies with the micro stem on the seater for my die set. I also shoot factory 140 AMAX loads at matches. I have loaded for it to see what I can get out of the cartridge but for matches the factory ammo works very well.
For my reloads I used 42grns of H4350 with 140 AMAX loaded about .010" off the lands and also went up to 43grns which gave me 2870fps.
Standard Hornady dies with the micro stem on the seater for my die set. I also shoot factory 140 AMAX loads at matches. I have loaded for it to see what I can get out of the cartridge but for matches the factory ammo works very well.
For my reloads I used 42grns of H4350 with 140 AMAX loaded about .010" off the lands and also went up to 43grns which gave me 2870fps.
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When I got mine they didn't have the match dies out yet but I see nothing wrong with the standard dies and will continue to use them. If you wanted match dies then get them as I am sure they would work well also.
When I got mine they didn't have the match dies out yet but I see nothing wrong with the standard dies and will continue to use them. If you wanted match dies then get them as I am sure they would work well also.
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I had match dies and sent them back and got a standard full length die.
I made my own bullet seating die .
I had match dies and sent them back and got a standard full length die.
I made my own bullet seating die .
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I shoot factory 140gr AMAX 6.5CM
Sorry, I can't help you with the reloading of this cartridge.
Respectfully,
--KJ
PS...I would like to try some of the 6.5 123 gr AMAX's they load in the Grendel...might be interesting
I shoot factory 140gr AMAX 6.5CM
Sorry, I can't help you with the reloading of this cartridge.
Respectfully,
--KJ
PS...I would like to try some of the 6.5 123 gr AMAX's they load in the Grendel...might be interesting
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I'm running 43.0 gr of RL 17 and am getting 2850 fps with 139gr Scenar's. The load's a hammer and prints VERY well out to at least 700 yards. Haven't pushed it past that yet, but will try 1200 yards plus in the spring. I'm on 3 loadings with one set and primer pockets are still nice and snug. I'm running the match grade dies and they're good to go. (couldn't find the standard dies anywhere in stock and wanted to load now)
I'm running 43.0 gr of RL 17 and am getting 2850 fps with 139gr Scenar's. The load's a hammer and prints VERY well out to at least 700 yards. Haven't pushed it past that yet, but will try 1200 yards plus in the spring. I'm on 3 loadings with one set and primer pockets are still nice and snug. I'm running the match grade dies and they're good to go. (couldn't find the standard dies anywhere in stock and wanted to load now)
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