All but ready to order one. Cannot find any real info on the accuracy of the 6.5 grendel. Love to hear from anyone that owns one.
6.5 Grendel Elf Owl accuracy
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They use the Howa mini for most of the builds.
I'd recommend doing a search on the Howa to get a baseline.
The Elf owl (dumb name) is a really neat setup.
I've had like a half dozen of them in my hand (shot a few too) and still don't know why there isn't one in the safe.
Eat Me... nice. Used to have a challenge coin (67th SOS) with that scribed on the back.
I'd recommend doing a search on the Howa to get a baseline.
The Elf owl (dumb name) is a really neat setup.
I've had like a half dozen of them in my hand (shot a few too) and still don't know why there isn't one in the safe.
Eat Me... nice. Used to have a challenge coin (67th SOS) with that scribed on the back.
I'm wanting one bad enough I think I'll pick one up and find out for myself. For what I want it for, even if its pretty terrible, which I expect it won't be, it'll work fine. I'm looking to get it made with a 12" barrel and stick a short can on. It'll be for hunting piggies and whitetails on the AL lease at short range. Should be a good size little gun to get kids hunting; have a couple little nephews showing interest. Should be able to fit it in my bow case so I can fly down with one case instead of two.
I didn't have any problems with a 4" plate at 400yds, so it should do the job.
Can't remember if the last one I shot was 10" or 12". 6.5 Grendel FMJ ammunition.
Can't remember if the last one I shot was 10" or 12". 6.5 Grendel FMJ ammunition.
I have a grendel already and agree that its a great all around cartridge. Its also a wonderful "for the children" cartridge. Low recoil but plenty of energy. I assure you that you are correct. I have taken pigs, whitetails, a big mule this year and elk with it. I am specifically looking for Elf Owl accuracy experience.
Good question. Perhaps they just cut to length and thread. I'll ask before I buy, but its happening. Even if not, I don't think there is a ton to be saved picking up the Howa barreled action and buying the chassis etc.
Smokin7, Since you came in here to bag on dude, How was your elk hunt? I think I pm'd with you about it.
Well shit. Just when I was ready to pull the trigger and order the Elf Owl 6.5 grendel 12" I found out I have to start loading for 6.5CM for my nephew. His dad bought him a 6.5 cm but didn't buy ammo for him. He says, "I cant find ammo". WTF. Sent him several links for ammo, didn't buy any. He is a traditionally cheap dick and I know if I want him to shoot more than a box a year, which I do, I'll have to load or buy for him. Whatever, I bought dies and brass and will use other components I have to make practice and hunting ammo for him, he should draw his first deer tag this year.
Where am I going with this and what the fuck does it have to do with the elf owl? Now Im torn. As much as I have avoided 6.5 cm, now that I am stuck loading for it, should I consider 6.5 cm for the pistol instead? That option puts the Christensen MPP in play, which if they offered 6.5G I would likely already have it. I like that it is lighter than the elf owl and I can have it tomorrow instead of in 6 weeks. I can get some more pep out of the CM to extend range a bit but is this going to be negligible in a 12.5" barrel? Should I just stick with the grendel like I had originally planned because all Im going to do is burn more powder and get more recoil with negligible returns? I have made plenty of memes bagging on the CM and its ilk, will it betray me if I switch to the dark side? Will all my other guns betray me for putting a man bun in the safe? Do I get it anyway because its the right answer, keep it as a dark secret mistress (think dirty d mistress) but never bring it around the others or admit Ive done it?
I am still really leaning towards the 6.5G in the elf owl but is there a real argument to go with the CM? There is pretty limited real world info on both these, which is part of what's making it hard. Probably won't buy a second bolt pistol so I don't want to fuck this up.
Where am I going with this and what the fuck does it have to do with the elf owl? Now Im torn. As much as I have avoided 6.5 cm, now that I am stuck loading for it, should I consider 6.5 cm for the pistol instead? That option puts the Christensen MPP in play, which if they offered 6.5G I would likely already have it. I like that it is lighter than the elf owl and I can have it tomorrow instead of in 6 weeks. I can get some more pep out of the CM to extend range a bit but is this going to be negligible in a 12.5" barrel? Should I just stick with the grendel like I had originally planned because all Im going to do is burn more powder and get more recoil with negligible returns? I have made plenty of memes bagging on the CM and its ilk, will it betray me if I switch to the dark side? Will all my other guns betray me for putting a man bun in the safe? Do I get it anyway because its the right answer, keep it as a dark secret mistress (think dirty d mistress) but never bring it around the others or admit Ive done it?
I am still really leaning towards the 6.5G in the elf owl but is there a real argument to go with the CM? There is pretty limited real world info on both these, which is part of what's making it hard. Probably won't buy a second bolt pistol so I don't want to fuck this up.
You'll hear that a lot from people who've never actually owned a CA rifle... There was a few bad barrels that caused some accuracy issues, but nowhere near the same level as Savage, Remington, and everyone else that produces rifles. Remember, the loudest voices often have the least personal experience.
I have a CA Ranger 22 rifle, and it shoots sub-MOA even out to 200 yards with regular bulk-pack CCI SV ammo. It's an absolute tack-driver. I'd say their accuracy issues are just a matter of hear-say at this point. Their CS is excellent, and if there is a problem, I'm sure they'd take care of you.
Do the Grendel in the short barreled pistol. The Manbun will be a flamethrower in a pistol length barrel and you'll hate it.
You can always load the 120-123gr bullets in the creepmore for practice ammo for the nephew.
Tell your brother to stop being a cheap assed mofo.
The difference is another set of dies and maybe another powder.
With small rifle primer CM brass, that would be the only issue.
I have two CM and a Grendel.
For deer and hogs, it's a no brainer, the Grendel gets the nod.
BTW, I live about ten miles from JTAC Industries and I shoot at JTAC Ranch. I can get my hands on their products if you're needing information or my opinion.
Awesome. That was my gut, just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to cost myself much performance.
The magazines are Howa proprietary ones. Sucks because they are expensive and shitty plastic things. Good thing is they work and give you more OAL space than an AR mag.
I have only been able to get out for one round of load development with 123 Smk's and LVR but it showed promise; about 3/4 MOA. Even if that's all its got in it, it'll suffice for what I need it for. Hoping to eek out a bit better on the next round but we'll see.
I have only been able to get out for one round of load development with 123 Smk's and LVR but it showed promise; about 3/4 MOA. Even if that's all its got in it, it'll suffice for what I need it for. Hoping to eek out a bit better on the next round but we'll see.
I have looked on Brownells and several sites extensively. They are usually out of stock. You can get the 300 blackout mini mags but not the 6.5/7.62x39/6mm ARC mags without like getting luck on here or eBay. Only reason I haven’t bought the gun in those calibers. I own a Screech Owl in .308 because it has mags supported by MDT and Magpul. Both work great. I would love to get the 6mm ARC or Grendel but I can’t buy something where I got to play where is Waldo in mags. I have only stretched this guy to 500 and on steel and it’s been solid. 16” barrel and MDT muzzle break. I got 350 yard range infront of house and I got 4 kids, 3 shoot also so that’s why I like Primary Arms Apollo budget optics.
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I found magazines at $89 plus. I would pull trigger in a heart beat but there are Unitah Precision out here and I’m torn especially when prices is almost the same when you add anything to JTAC build. The Magazines $15 for Unitah vs hard to find for HOWA?
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That's double what JTAC has them for and a quick search showed them in stock a couple other places for $34-39. Love to find somebody to print some 10 rounders. Its a drag that Howa makes 10 rounders for 223 in the mini but not grendel.
Ok, I’ll admit it I suck. Where did you find them? I been on forums, and all sorts of crap. I seen a $70.
I have shot the elf owl 300 blk out and that’s the main reason I bought the .308 I got. I loved the smooth action and loved what the guys at JTAC did. I just have three 300 blackout ARs and didn’t need another. Now the 6mm ARC is calling my name. If it comes back in stock and this magazine crap is under control then I would buy it. I love it has a 11” barrel. I don’t want a 22” barrel. I do like the Grendel though more ammo available and reload capabilities right now.
I know people won’t like it but, my buddy has a Christensen Arms MPR and he shot damn near the same behind my JTAC .308 Screech OWL (with XLR buttstock) at 100 yards and even commented on action being smoother. $1800 cheaper just gun.
Legacy sports showed in stock yesterday and now they don't. When I ordered the grendel from JTAC they were out of stock on extra mags. I put in the order notes that I wanted 3 extra mags. They called when they got a shipment during the build time to confirm that I wanted them and invoiced me. The mags all shipped with the gun.
Will it not accept DuraMag (C-Products Defense) stainless steel anti-tilt AR style mags? I thought it was designed to do so... I've been using the C-Prod/Dura mags for almost 10 years. I primarily only use 5 and 10 rounders since I'm mostly hunting or shooting from a bench with the 6.5G AR, and don't want a low-hanging magazine to get in the way. The original ones I purchased are still working perfectly. I highly recommend them.
I don’t own the gun, but Zeroz Does and they are proprietary where only the polymer mini mags from HOWA work. I have read several forums mostly from Australia where guys have tried to build there own, to no avail.
I have a Maximum Defense 7.62x39 AR and have 12 Duramags and they are awesome. I got two Aero receiver sets on standby and was going to do a 6.5 GR build with one if I can’t resolve the mag. Thing, but I really like bolt guns. If I did it would do a 12 inch Faxon barrel.
