6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

[Bowman]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COURAGEWOLF</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NordicG3K</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you're going to stick with the AR15 platform then the Grendel is hard to beat. My first build was an 18"er that I plan to hunt with this year (it's a bit heavy so I don't plan to hike too far with it though). My current build is a 12.5" SBR. The popular vote was for a 6.8, but I saw no need to reload for yet another caliber when I'm already set up for the Grendel. I just finished the upper so I haven't had a chance to do any accuracy or chrono testing yet. It's certainly fun though!

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Please if you would post some results and ranges on that 12.5 inch 6.5 gren would be great to see what kind of results you get with that.

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+1 Please! This would help me out with deciding between a 16" and 18" barrel.

 

[Tactical30]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

Why not a 20 or 24" bbl?

Im going with the Sabre 24" bbl on my next Grendel build. I already have the 18" Sabre on another grendel build and it shoots lights out. Love the 6.5 Sabre bbls!

 

[Scottmilk9]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

Here is a reason to stay at 18". I went out and test fired a customers gun today. No wind at all, so i got lucky there. This was at 100yds off the bench, bipod and rear bag.

 

[Tactical30]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scottmilk9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is a reason to stay at 18". I went out and test fired a customers gun today. No wind at all, so i got lucky there. This was at 100yds off the bench, bipod and rear bag.

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What bullet and bbl was used to shoot this?

 

[Scottmilk9]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

Its an 18" Lothar Walther 1-8 twist 6.5 grendel. I use Lapua scenar 108's with Ramshot tac powder.

 

[GIC]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ORD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 6.5 Grendel is an incredible cartridge that allows impressive performance out of the standard AR-15 lower. Ballistically, the 6.5G definitely offers you a welath of high BC bullets to chose from that can get to you 1k and beyond depending on your skill set. That said...

If you don't reload and you don't want to start (or if you aren't independently wealthy)...stick with the 5.56 and the 7.62 AR platform rifles or get a bolt gun for longer distances where you won't put quite as much ammo down-range. You'll lose your shirt (or end up with a second job) trying to find and buy 6.5G ammo in sufficient supply to practice and compete with it. There are some cheaper offerings for the 6.5G slowly becoming available (Wolf, etc.), but none of them will get you competitive or enable you to accurately reach out to the ranges you are talking about. Also, assuming that you can get the most accuracy/performance out of your rifle at extended ranges with ANY factory offering (match or otherwise) is asking a lot. Also, as I said, price is high too. You'll pay roughly $1.00-$1.50/round for match ammo (123gr Scenar, A-Max, etc.) and it isn't ever going to get cheaper. By reloading, you open up a whole range of high BC 6.5mm bullets that are ideal for the Grendel, and you can get your costs down to 1/3 (or less) the cost of factory ammo.

Don't be afraid to get into reloading. It can be daunting for a newbie, but there is no reason to let it intimidate you. You can get a basic, single-stage reloading press kit (scales, powder thrower, press, etc., etc.) for <$300, plus the cost of your dies. Powder, bullets, primers and brass are pretty variable in terms of cost, but once you get the the big items out of the way, it won't take long to break even and start seeing the savings versus buying factory match ammo.

As for future availability of parts, etc., the short answer is "Who knows?!?" The 6.5G is relatively new, but it has gained a ton of momentum and a sizeable following at least in the AR community (and rightly so). I don't see it going anywhere in the near future, but who knows what 10, 15, etc. years down the road may hold. </div></div>

Thats what you always have to remember, its not the 2000, 3000, 4000, or even 5000 dollar gun that will make you go broke, its the ammo to shoot it.

 

[Bowman]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scottmilk9</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is a reason to stay at 18". I went out and test fired a customers gun today. No wind at all, so i got lucky there. This was at 100yds off the bench, bipod and rear bag.

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Sounds good to me Scott!

 

[CST]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

SCott....what kind of velocities are you getting with the 18"s 108s and other loads?

 

[High Binder]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

Does the 6.5 brass take a small rifle primer? (I have thousands of 205s)

 

[Jon A]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

Yes.

 

[He Shoot Me]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shot In The Dark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does the 6.5 brass take a small rifle primer? (I have thousands of 205s) </div></div>

Yes the Lapua and AA--->(Made by Lapua) brass take a small rifle primer and I believe I read the flash hole????? is a bit smaller as well???

However, I believe Hornady's 6.5G brass is large primer/normal size flash hole. I'm about 99% sure of this, but it's late in the day.....and I need a beer!

-Pat

 

[Jon A]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

Doh! I think you're right. I should have been more specific.

 

[sandwarrior]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: He_Shoot _Me</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shot In The Dark</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does the 6.5 brass take a small rifle primer? (I have thousands of 205s) </div></div>

Yes the Lapua and AA--->(Made by Lapua) brass take a small rifle primer and I believe I read the flash hole????? is a bit smaller as well???

However, I believe Hornady's 6.5G brass is large primer/normal size flash hole. I'm about 99% sure of this, but it's late in the day.....and I need a beer!

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Also, if you break down or pick up Federal 7.62x39 Brass to resize, it has large primers.

 

[Dirknar]

Re: 6.5 Grendel Questions / Worries

Hornady's brass is small primer but normal size flash hole..

Also hornady brass is a tight fit in the 6.5CSS barrels, because of the .295" neck. You have to slightly cam over the press handle when sizing them for the CSS chamber. Oh also you have to debur the case mouth a lot so its nice and smooth. Hornady used some thick brass which is proving to be a PITA for the 6.5CSS chamber.

The CSS is the "official" Grendel "Match" chamber. I was told this by the source.