Anybody using this stuff?? I’m thinking about trying some for 400yd barricade practice ammo, or do y’all have some better options?
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They had that free shipping promo last week or whenever but now the LAX free shipping is only for LAX manufactured ammo.I think LAX ammo has a better price than that and free shipping for new customers
That’s true, I didn’t know about tho.. I do know that I can’t afford to shoot expensive match for practice.. lots of good feedback I appreciate itYous should have jumped on SWFAs deal for .60 with free shipping.
I get what you are saying and I agree with your point completely as it was the exact point I made already. I am not discounting anyone’s actual real life experiences. I may debate such things but never dismiss. In this case, I am banking that the guys that are saying that its only good for such and such aren’t coming from their own experiences.For the guys that say its only good to blah blah distance, go shoot the stuff further and quit believing what the internet told you. See for yourself what it can do in your rifle.
With all due respect,
1. Are you not also giving your personal experience/opinion via the internet as well?
2. If you are, why should we believe you?
-TS
No problem, it’s all good,I get what you are saying and I agree with your point completely as it was the exact point I made already. I am not discounting anyone’s actual real life experiences. I may debate such things but never dismiss. In this case, I am banking that the guys that are saying that its only good for such and such aren’t coming from their own experiences.
Lots of guys regurgitate what they read and not from what they actually do. Sometimes its easy to tell the difference and sometimes its not. This was my point.
I did say “don't believe what the internet told you” and to “try for yourself.” My post falls under that statement as well. I never said believe only what I say and discount others. So your post only verified what I said to begin with. Try for yourself and report back.
Good stuff, yeah the Hornady 140 eldm runs good in my gun, but I’ve switched to Berger 130 factory ammo for matches, which shoots lights out.. I don’t hand load yet, so I’ve been wanting to try this American Gunner for Saturday range fodder off barricades out to 350-400 yds.. I just can’t afford to torch premium match ammo down range for practice only..I shot 40 rounds of it (American Gunner 6.5 CM) and my rifle found it somewhat lacking. Good for range fodder it was. But for honing my skills at precision shooting it was much less impressive in terms of consistency that Hornady ELD-M offerings in various weights.
It's fairly inexpensive and dang good for what we pay for it but it doesn't run well in my rifle. Everyone's mileage may vary as all guns have their preferred fodder. Hornady 147 gr. ELD-M runs .5ish MOA in my gun. The AG 140 stuff is good. The Hornady ELD-M stuff is way better but significantly more expensive. The American Gunner runs 1 MOA in my gun but with ELD-M and handloads running literally half it's a no brainer for me and mine.
Shooting for brass and confidence? Use what works.
VooDoo
I used AG for all my shooting at the Alaska class and it worked really well for me. I was surprised that it was shooting 1/2MOA out of my Tikka TAC A1 at 100 & 200 yards local range. I was hoping it'd work well enough at the class and it really did. I had some inconsistencies at 1000 yard target but honestly that's likely more on me the shooter than the ammo. I've stocked up on another 600 rounds of it. Just got my AXMC setup for 6.5CM as well so hopefully it works as well in that as in my Tikka.
I get similar accuracy results at 100 yards with my CTR and Ruger Predator.I tested a case last week. 1 MOA group @100 and easy hits on a 20" gong at 640 yd with a factory fresh RR 700. It chrono'd out of my 22" barrel at 2660fps with an SD of 25 and an ES of 86. Not too bad for cheapish bulk ammo.
I get similar accuracy results at 100 yards with my CTR and Ruger Predator.
Chrono results:
CTR w/ Omega: 2506 fps
CTR w/o Omega: 2583 fps
1x brass sells for 30-35 cents per case, making the American Gunner pretty cheap plinking ammo.
Good question that I don't have an answer to.Interesting you saw a decease in FPS with the omega, does that happen often for you?
Anybody using this stuff?? I’m thinking about trying some for 400yd barricade practice ammo, or do y’all have some better options?View attachment 7117603
That’s butter ??Better groups and much better SD/ES than the Hornady "match" ammo. My RPR loves it.
American Gunner was 3/4" group with a SD of 13. MV was slow at 2633.
Hornady Match 140 ELD was 1" groups, SD of 35, and a MV of 2715 or 2720.
That depends on what your expectations are.This ammo seems to be highly regarded and a great performer at a solid price. is it worth going to something like Berger 130/140 6.5 cm ammo for precision shooting over this or save the $ and buy the gunner?
May be rifle dependent but results above seem to be impressive.
Its much better than the examples you have given. By far. I can keep them centered up on a 12” plate at 900 yards out of my rifle. May not match up well with yours is all.That depends on what your expectations are.
It's good ammo, and 10 or 20 years ago, it would have been great ammo.
If you're shooting at longer distances and want/need very high BC bullets and very low SD/ES to meet your accuracy needs, Am Gunner may not be the best choice.
If you're content banging on IPSC targets at 600 yards, Am Gunner should be fine.
<200 yards and just plinking, Am Gunner all the way.
I get the same velocity as you through my 24” tikka. 100FPs less with my 20” tikka. I get 2710 fps out of my 24” Spencer barrel. Slow but plenty consistent according to my targets at distance. I dont use a chrono.View attachment 7122736
Just have a cheap Caldwell chrono. It’s pretty slow but very consistent
Got a box of 200 rounds to use for practice and at the local matches. Shoots great groups for sure, need to get out the chonro to test velocity next.
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No you don’t. Go shoot at distance and let the results speak. I would rather you come back and say that the ammo will or won’t work for you and not come back on here and post some numbers a chrono spit out. One of the two tests actually matter.
I ordered another 200 round box today.