I actually use this ammo to “break in” my barrels. Its cheap, 1/2 moa and decent speeds. I was getting 2740 from a 24” proof barrel and suppressor. SD is tad high (14) but shot well at 600, 800, and 1000 yards
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No doubt, your mileage may vary. I'm not a 900 yard shooter and my game isn't PRS-style matches. It's great you're having good luck with it.Its much better than the examples you have given. By far. I can keep them centered up on a 12” plate at 900 yards out of my rifle. May not match up well with yours is all.
See there. Lots of guys talking out there ass. Told ya. ?Chrono-ed it and it came in at my 26inch barreled bolt gun at 2760 FPS with a SD of 9.
Took it out to 1000 yards, 5/5 hits on half-ipsc steel with no issues. Just picked up another case of 200 cause I couldn't stop shooting it today...
Yes. My Ruger Predator is 16.75". It performs similarly to my 20" Tikka CTR. Average 5 shot is around an inch at 100 yards.Anyone use it in short barrels? 16-18?
Agreed. Those SD's are less than half of what I'm seeing. He must have a magic barrel.See there. Lots of guys talking out there ass. Told ya. ?
I wasn’t picking on him. If you read my other posts I could care less what a chrono says. I have shot a few thousand of the american gunner and it performs great. I must get low SD out of all my 6.5 rifles because i can pick up any one of them and lay them all on a 12” plate at 900 easily (once I correct for wind. Lol). I let the targets tell me what works. The targets are a long way past the chrono.Agreed. Those SD's are less than half of what I'm seeing. He must have a magic barrel.
Anyone use it in short barrels? 16-18?
I’ve used from an 18” proof barrel. Groups well enough, however only get 2469fps out of it. Ok BC doesn’t get out that far.
I’m better off with 130’s with a hotter load. My Norma stuff gets me out to a 1000m with an 18” barrel which I’m more than happy about.
AG for me is used for plinking & breaking in barrels. Trouble is that in the UK it’s not nice & cheap like you guys pick it up for!
I am guessing a 26” barrel. Those numbers on the chrono suck through your rifle. Did you shoot anything at distance to verify anything. If you did and seen bad results then your rifle is a no go with that load. If not then those numbers mean nothing.Shot 50 rounds this weekend. SD was 26.16 and ES was 106 (2686 to 2792; 2740 fps was the average).
Environment: about 5,000 ft. elevation, 45% humidity, and 65 degrees.
Yes, it was a 26" barrel, 1:8.I am guessing a 26” barrel. Those numbers on the chrono suck through your rifle. Did you shoot anything at distance to verify anything. If you did and seen bad results then your rifle is a no go with that load. If not then those numbers mean nothing.
You can do the same without a chrono.Yes, it was a 26" barrel, 1:8.
Brand new rifle, so I was seasoning the barrel, and sighting in the scope.
At 100 yards, all groups were less than one inch. Had multiple five shot groups with four-out-of-five rounds touching.
The chrono numbers mean something to me--now I can enter the actual results into a ballastics program so I can get on target at longer distances.
Anyone use it in short barrels? 16-18?
Thats about 25fps faster than my 20” Tikka ctr. Nice.2576fps from Hornady 140gr Black (same stuff as American Gunner, different box) from a 18" 1:8 PVA Rock Creek.
All my factory tikkas shoot slow, but accurate as hell. Must be a tighter bore.Thats about 25fps faster than my 20” Tikka ctr. Nice.
Velocity is just a number. I doubt you would see 200 FPS with the same barrel length. My bartlein and MPA spencer barrel show about 75 FPS increase with Hornady ammunition. That little bit doesn’t matter anyhow. A few extra clicks on the elevation turret is it. Fast or slow, once you have your dope, hit probability is about the same.All my factory tikkas shoot slow, but accurate as hell. Must be a tighter bore.
Yeah, until you’re out of clicks and reticle. Lol.Velocity is just a number. I doubt you would see 200 FPS with the same barrel length. My bartlein and MPA spencer barrel show about 75 FPS increase with Hornady ammunition. That little bit doesn’t matter anyhow. A few extra clicks on the elevation turret is it. Fast or slow, once you have your dope, hit probability is about the same.
Lol. My thoughts are that if you are at the ragged edge of the cartridge, move to a larger chambering.Yeah, until you’re out of clicks and reticle. Lol.
Eh, guys like to shoot far with a cartridge not designed for it. Ive tKen my gasser 6.5x47 to 1208 yards but without any moa on the base, i was out of all elevation. It was a slow load though.Lol. My thoughts are that if you are at the ragged edge of the cartridge, move to a larger chambering.
My custom tikka build i could almost, ALMOST always group 1/2” but damn it would it almost always have one flier with a very different velocity. Luckily my hand loads my buddy makes for me has none of those issues. I still use this ammo to this day for warm up.
Yeah, 100 yards, 5 rounds. Velocity doesn’t lie. Could still partially be me, but a 50 fps jump is going to mess with a group.Are you talking 100 yard groups? 5 rounds (because 3 inst a group)? To be honest that sounds more of a "You" problem than an ammo / velocity problem. How much is that "flyer" being thrown? Might just be in your head.
Its not that far outta whack, but a 1/4-1/2 flier gets annoying. Turns a great group into moa. Not horrible, especially for the price. I bought it for the brass/break in and for practice. I have noticed my latest lot shoots better than my previous. I am thinking about measuring them out and checking powder charges. But its just not that important to me.I take the 140gr American Gunner ammunition to 900 yards and have absolutely no issues laying them well inside a 12” plate. When I miss it is usually left or right due to the wind. I do this with factory Tikka CTRs, a tikka with a pva barrel, and a custom rig with a mpa barrel. I haven’t experienced inconsistencies using this ammo in a wide variety of barrels. I don’t chrono though. I let the plates tell me what I need to know. It is realistic to assume that it shoots like crap in some rifles though
Chances are if you are missing its you. Of course not all ammunition works well in every gun so there is that with the only exception of 175gr FGMM. That stuff shoots in everything.
I have been shooting the stuff for a couple years and have never had to make an elevation correction between lots. FGMM is the same as far as lot to lot consistency. Breaking the load down wouldn't make a bit of difference Either the rifle shoots them or it doesn't. You may have a barrel that doesn't appreciate the most economical option today for centerfire rifles.Its not that far outta whack, but a 1/4-1/2 flier gets annoying. Turns a great group into moa. Not horrible, especially for the price. I bought it for the brass/break in and for practice. I have noticed my latest lot shoots better than my previous. I am thinking about measuring them out and checking powder charges. But its just not that important to me.