Anyone have any ideas? see below
I just received an order of the flat line bullets to try in my Ruger RPR. Was pretty excited to get them but that was short lived lol. they look outstanding but how they shoot is another. couple of questions about what you did with them when you loaded them. I shot them out of the RPR with a Silencerco hybrid can, I use it direct thread. the brass is Hornady 1x fired and annealed full length sized chamfered and debured. bullets drop in nice and smooth. I tried both CCI-Br2 primers and 210m primers. The powders I went with where the Varget and IMR 4166. I proof tested working up on the 4166 to the load you used (41.5) and it did the same thing popped primers. the next load was 40.9 and it did not pop the primer but still was on the warm side so I ended up loading (5) at 40.3 and (5) at 39.8 the 40.3 was worse then what you would get with 00 buck at 100 yards really not kidding group was over 5" at 100 yards. the 39.8 was a little better in that it was around 2.5" to 3" at 100 yards.
then tried the varget at 43.0, 42.4 and 41.8 all terrible worse then the IMR4166. Really did not know that a 6.5 Creedmoor could shoot that bad lol. when I was done I was in shock thought ok my scope is loose something going on bullet is hitting something on the way down range ect. so I grabbed 2 of my normal rounds 140 gr Berger vld hunting with h4350 and 2 shots center punched under 1/4" so ruled out gun issue and shooter issue for now. all rounds where loaded at COAL of 2.820 and almost touch lands maybe about 0.005 jump.
now that I gave you a little back ground on them I have few questions if you do not mind. I noticed that in Franks review he shot them thru a brake not a can. was there a reason for that do they not like can's?
next dog I'll hunt with is h4350 just to see if I can get them to group or do you think I should try something else?
the groups I got where so bad I doubt a little change is going to bring about a 180 degree change. by little change I mean using any combo of what I already tried or would you try slowing them down some? I did notice like I said the slower rounds (assuming lower powder charge slower bullet) the groups did tighten up by half. Maybe the 24" barrel with a can is really spitting them out faster then Frank did with the 22.75" and no can barrel and they are not stabilizing? I did not chrony any of these I do not like to do that when testing be because I do not like to let vel. influence my decision on what I will use, I like to let the target talk not the vel. just thinking out loud here a little as I type. maybe next I send a couple of them over the chrony and see what it says for vel.? if it is really high maybe that is my issue? thanks for any insight you can offer or suggestions.
I just received an order of the flat line bullets to try in my Ruger RPR. Was pretty excited to get them but that was short lived lol. they look outstanding but how they shoot is another. couple of questions about what you did with them when you loaded them. I shot them out of the RPR with a Silencerco hybrid can, I use it direct thread. the brass is Hornady 1x fired and annealed full length sized chamfered and debured. bullets drop in nice and smooth. I tried both CCI-Br2 primers and 210m primers. The powders I went with where the Varget and IMR 4166. I proof tested working up on the 4166 to the load you used (41.5) and it did the same thing popped primers. the next load was 40.9 and it did not pop the primer but still was on the warm side so I ended up loading (5) at 40.3 and (5) at 39.8 the 40.3 was worse then what you would get with 00 buck at 100 yards really not kidding group was over 5" at 100 yards. the 39.8 was a little better in that it was around 2.5" to 3" at 100 yards.
then tried the varget at 43.0, 42.4 and 41.8 all terrible worse then the IMR4166. Really did not know that a 6.5 Creedmoor could shoot that bad lol. when I was done I was in shock thought ok my scope is loose something going on bullet is hitting something on the way down range ect. so I grabbed 2 of my normal rounds 140 gr Berger vld hunting with h4350 and 2 shots center punched under 1/4" so ruled out gun issue and shooter issue for now. all rounds where loaded at COAL of 2.820 and almost touch lands maybe about 0.005 jump.
now that I gave you a little back ground on them I have few questions if you do not mind. I noticed that in Franks review he shot them thru a brake not a can. was there a reason for that do they not like can's?
next dog I'll hunt with is h4350 just to see if I can get them to group or do you think I should try something else?
the groups I got where so bad I doubt a little change is going to bring about a 180 degree change. by little change I mean using any combo of what I already tried or would you try slowing them down some? I did notice like I said the slower rounds (assuming lower powder charge slower bullet) the groups did tighten up by half. Maybe the 24" barrel with a can is really spitting them out faster then Frank did with the 22.75" and no can barrel and they are not stabilizing? I did not chrony any of these I do not like to do that when testing be because I do not like to let vel. influence my decision on what I will use, I like to let the target talk not the vel. just thinking out loud here a little as I type. maybe next I send a couple of them over the chrony and see what it says for vel.? if it is really high maybe that is my issue? thanks for any insight you can offer or suggestions.