700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

[Glen1978]

The more I read the more I learn/confuse myself! I was dead set on the SPS Varmint in .308. Plan to use this at the range, varmint hunting and bangin steel. I want to get out to 1000 yds at some point as I learn more. The more I read about this the more I learn about rates of twist and barrel length. Ive learned that the farther I shoot the heavier bullet I need and the tighter twist helps stabilize it. The SPS Varmint is longer barrel (which I also found out I dont need and the shorter would be easier to carry) and 1-12 twist which is not exactly perfect for heavier bullets. SPS tactical is the same twist as I found out. Started looking at the AAC-SD and noticed it was shorter barrel, GOOD. Tighter twist, GOOD. And threaded, GOOD for a brake. Dont plan to suppress.

Skip forward a week and talk to Russell at Scout Supply and he told me the AAC-SD was built more for subsonic stuff with suppressors and isnt "ideal" for the mid weight stuff.....175ish. He said the 5R is perfect for this weight but the SPS tactical would do just fine with 168gr.

Keep in mind Im a normal red blooded American and want the best bang for the buck so the SPS Tactical or AAC-SD is more my price range. BUT in turn it has been highly recommended to re-stock both of these where as the 5R doesnt need it. But honestly I dont really care for the 5R stock. I like more adjustability. So with all that being said I need to hear some real world opinions on which direction I should go. All .308 and will be wearing SWFA SS 5-20x50 glass. Sorry for the long rant.....

 

[TannerGun]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

My 26" 1-12 twist stabilizes 208 A-Maxes, but I'm at 7300' ASL. I'd do SPS Varmint in an HTG, if I was starting all over.

 

[07zx6r]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

I have seen the aac-sd shoot evrything from the 155's all the way up to the heavier suppressed loads all with great accuracy. I cant speak for the other rifles as I have not handled them much.

 

[Glen1978]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

Ive already kinda thrown the Varmint out due to its length. At first I was unsure of the short barrels but see there GTG now. It just makes sense to get a shorter rifle for ease of carry.

 

[TannerGun]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

You can cut barrels down, but you can't add it on.

 

[Glen1978]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

This is true TannerGun. Im not as really worried about the length as I am the twist because as you said you can cut it down. The SPS-V, SPS-T and AAC-SD are all within $100 bucks of each other so thats not the issue.....unless you jump up to the 5R.

 

[LittleGentleman]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

I'm planning my next build off of a sps varmint in .308. Out of my .30 rifles I shoot 165gr, and for the most part the 1-12 barrels will favour those in my experience. The gun is very capable to reach 1000yds. Dont forget that you can change the barrel out. I plan on putting a shilen barrel on mine, but I am always open to new suggestions. I am no expert, I am just basing my builds on my own experiences.

 

[StayHidden]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

I have/had all of these but use each for different things/ranges.

Mainly the only difference between the SPS Tactical and Varmint are the Tactical has a shorter barrel and better stock (in my opinion, some people like the wider forened on the Var though). The Tactical also has pillar bedding already where the Varmint has no bedding of an sorts. So if you don't want to go with a long barrel throw the Varmint idea out. They both have heavy barrels though. Look for the Tactical to run about $100 more than the Varmint.

Now between the 5R and AAC-SD, I would probably go with the AAC-SD in your case if you're planning on changing the stock out anyways. The HS stock on the 5R is great but like you say if you like something more adjustable then take that extra $400-500 and put it towards a new stock or glass or something.

Personally I love my 5R over my AAC-SD. The 5R will shoot sub .5 moa with 168 and 175 smk's, where the AAC-SD shoots around .6 moa.

If you have any other questions about these feel free to shoot me a PM.

 

[Glen1978]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have/had all of these but use each for different things/ranges.

Mainly the only difference between the SPS Tactical and Varmint are the Tactical has a shorter barrel and better stock (in my opinion, some people like the wider forened on the Var though). The Tactical also has pillar bedding already where the Varmint has no bedding of an sorts. So if you don't want to go with a long barrel throw the Varmint idea out. They both have heavy barrels though. Look for the Tactical to run about $100 more than the Varmint.

Now between the 5R and AAC-SD, I would probably go with the AAC-SD in your case if you're planning on changing the stock out anyways. The HS stock on the 5R is great but like you say if you like something more adjustable then take that extra $400-500 and put it towards a new stock or glass or something.

Personally I love my 5R over my AAC-SD. The 5R will shoot sub .5 moa with 168 and 175 smk's, where the AAC-SD shoots around .6 moa.

If you have any other questions about these feel free to shoot me a PM.</div></div>

thanks man! Can you have "overkill" in the rifling....as in the 1-10 on the AAC for what I want to do as in say 175gr? This vs. the 1-11.25 on the 5R is what I was referring to. Also cant stand the stainless finish, love the stainless but not the color. Cerakoting would set me back another couple hundred.

 

[George63]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

do not get to wrapped up in the twist rate - a 12 twist is fine at any elevation for 175 SMK - a damn fine projectile and a bargain

the other thing you are paying for with the 5R is the stainless action/barrel - the finish on the SPS is crap, the 5R stock can be taken off and readily sold new for 225 so factor that in - also the X mark trigger is crap so ...

you see the upward $$$ spiral and like so many others may conclude: If I am already spending x dollars and still have to make a series of compromises why not just build a component rifle from an action that does not need truing, stock of my choice etc.

 

[Dirtdigger]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

I went with the sps tac, all i've ever shot through it is FGMM 175's and with great results. I'm not the greatest at shooting groups, but on an average day it does .5 to .7 ctc and on a good day it does .3 to .4 ctc.

Its at the smith now getting a manners t4 stock, badger M5 dbm, timney 510 trigger, and a badger base.

Any of them will shoot just fine with 175's, just get one and shoot the piss out of it. That is what everyone here told me to do and they are right, when you are new you usually can't out shoot your rifle anyway. My first custom will be built this winter.

Welcome to the addiction.

 

[5R Milspec]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

They make camo paint just for covering up pretty stainless rifels.Plus the 5R is a great shooter.

 

[StayHidden]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Glen1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have/had all of these but use each for different things/ranges.

Mainly the only difference between the SPS Tactical and Varmint are the Tactical has a shorter barrel and better stock (in my opinion, some people like the wider forened on the Var though). The Tactical also has pillar bedding already where the Varmint has no bedding of an sorts. So if you don't want to go with a long barrel throw the Varmint idea out. They both have heavy barrels though. Look for the Tactical to run about $100 more than the Varmint.

Now between the 5R and AAC-SD, I would probably go with the AAC-SD in your case if you're planning on changing the stock out anyways. The HS stock on the 5R is great but like you say if you like something more adjustable then take that extra $400-500 and put it towards a new stock or glass or something.

Personally I love my 5R over my AAC-SD. The 5R will shoot sub .5 moa with 168 and 175 smk's, where the AAC-SD shoots around .6 moa.

If you have any other questions about these feel free to shoot me a PM.</div></div>

thanks man! Can you have "overkill" in the rifling....as in the 1-10 on the AAC for what I want to do as in say 175gr? This vs. the 1-11.25 on the 5R is what I was referring to. Also cant stand the stainless finish, love the stainless but not the color. Cerakoting would set me back another couple hundred.</div></div>

I know exactly what you mean on the stainless color, too flashy, nice to not have to worry about rust and all that though.

The 175gr or 178gr should love the 1:10 twist of the AAC barrel. Could even go up to as much as 220gr if you were looking for longer range. The 175 should still get great distance from that twist though.

The 11.25 twist of the 5R shoots the 168 flatter at shorter distances but anything out past about 6-700yds or so and it starts to become unstable.

 

[Glen1978]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Glen1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have/had all of these but use each for different things/ranges.

Mainly the only difference between the SPS Tactical and Varmint are the Tactical has a shorter barrel and better stock (in my opinion, some people like the wider forened on the Var though). The Tactical also has pillar bedding already where the Varmint has no bedding of an sorts. So if you don't want to go with a long barrel throw the Varmint idea out. They both have heavy barrels though. Look for the Tactical to run about $100 more than the Varmint.

Now between the 5R and AAC-SD, I would probably go with the AAC-SD in your case if you're planning on changing the stock out anyways. The HS stock on the 5R is great but like you say if you like something more adjustable then take that extra $400-500 and put it towards a new stock or glass or something.

Personally I love my 5R over my AAC-SD. The 5R will shoot sub .5 moa with 168 and 175 smk's, where the AAC-SD shoots around .6 moa.

If you have any other questions about these feel free to shoot me a PM.</div></div>

thanks man! Can you have "overkill" in the rifling....as in the 1-10 on the AAC for what I want to do as in say 175gr? This vs. the 1-11.25 on the 5R is what I was referring to. Also cant stand the stainless finish, love the stainless but not the color. Cerakoting would set me back another couple hundred.</div></div>

I know exactly what you mean on the stainless color, too flashy, nice to not have to worry about rust and all that though.

The 175gr or 178gr should love the 1:10 twist of the AAC barrel. Could even go up to as much as 220gr if you were looking for longer range. The 175 should still get great distance from that twist though.

The 11.25 twist of the 5R shoots the 168 flatter at shorter distances but anything out past about 6-700yds or so and it starts to become unstable.</div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Glen1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have/had all of these but use each for different things/ranges.

Mainly the only difference between the SPS Tactical and Varmint are the Tactical has a shorter barrel and better stock (in my opinion, some people like the wider forened on the Var though). The Tactical also has pillar bedding already where the Varmint has no bedding of an sorts. So if you don't want to go with a long barrel throw the Varmint idea out. They both have heavy barrels though. Look for the Tactical to run about $100 more than the Varmint.

Now between the 5R and AAC-SD, I would probably go with the AAC-SD in your case if you're planning on changing the stock out anyways. The HS stock on the 5R is great but like you say if you like something more adjustable then take that extra $400-500 and put it towards a new stock or glass or something.

Personally I love my 5R over my AAC-SD. The 5R will shoot sub .5 moa with 168 and 175 smk's, where the AAC-SD shoots around .6 moa.

If you have any other questions about these feel free to shoot me a PM.</div></div>

thanks man! Can you have "overkill" in the rifling....as in the 1-10 on the AAC for what I want to do as in say 175gr? This vs. the 1-11.25 on the 5R is what I was referring to. Also cant stand the stainless finish, love the stainless but not the color. Cerakoting would set me back another couple hundred.</div></div>

I know exactly what you mean on the stainless color, too flashy, nice to not have to worry about rust and all that though.

The 175gr or 178gr should love the 1:10 twist of the AAC barrel. Could even go up to as much as 220gr if you were looking for longer range. The 175 should still get great distance from that twist though.

The 11.25 twist of the 5R shoots the 168 flatter at shorter distances but anything out past about 6-700yds or so and it starts to become unstable.</div></div>

So your saying the tighter twist will make lighter projectiles unstable at further ranges? Sorry if thats a dumb question.

I want to buy once and be happy and not wish I would have got X rifle. Its no GAP built stuff but it will out shoot me for sure....Any of them.

 

[StayHidden]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Glen1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Glen1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have/had all of these but use each for different things/ranges.

Mainly the only difference between the SPS Tactical and Varmint are the Tactical has a shorter barrel and better stock (in my opinion, some people like the wider forened on the Var though). The Tactical also has pillar bedding already where the Varmint has no bedding of an sorts. So if you don't want to go with a long barrel throw the Varmint idea out. They both have heavy barrels though. Look for the Tactical to run about $100 more than the Varmint.

Now between the 5R and AAC-SD, I would probably go with the AAC-SD in your case if you're planning on changing the stock out anyways. The HS stock on the 5R is great but like you say if you like something more adjustable then take that extra $400-500 and put it towards a new stock or glass or something.

Personally I love my 5R over my AAC-SD. The 5R will shoot sub .5 moa with 168 and 175 smk's, where the AAC-SD shoots around .6 moa.

If you have any other questions about these feel free to shoot me a PM.</div></div>

thanks man! Can you have "overkill" in the rifling....as in the 1-10 on the AAC for what I want to do as in say 175gr? This vs. the 1-11.25 on the 5R is what I was referring to. Also cant stand the stainless finish, love the stainless but not the color. Cerakoting would set me back another couple hundred.</div></div>

I know exactly what you mean on the stainless color, too flashy, nice to not have to worry about rust and all that though.

The 175gr or 178gr should love the 1:10 twist of the AAC barrel. Could even go up to as much as 220gr if you were looking for longer range. The 175 should still get great distance from that twist though.

The 11.25 twist of the 5R shoots the 168 flatter at shorter distances but anything out past about 6-700yds or so and it starts to become unstable.</div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Glen1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have/had all of these but use each for different things/ranges.

Mainly the only difference between the SPS Tactical and Varmint are the Tactical has a shorter barrel and better stock (in my opinion, some people like the wider forened on the Var though). The Tactical also has pillar bedding already where the Varmint has no bedding of an sorts. So if you don't want to go with a long barrel throw the Varmint idea out. They both have heavy barrels though. Look for the Tactical to run about $100 more than the Varmint.

Now between the 5R and AAC-SD, I would probably go with the AAC-SD in your case if you're planning on changing the stock out anyways. The HS stock on the 5R is great but like you say if you like something more adjustable then take that extra $400-500 and put it towards a new stock or glass or something.

Personally I love my 5R over my AAC-SD. The 5R will shoot sub .5 moa with 168 and 175 smk's, where the AAC-SD shoots around .6 moa.

If you have any other questions about these feel free to shoot me a PM.</div></div>

thanks man! Can you have "overkill" in the rifling....as in the 1-10 on the AAC for what I want to do as in say 175gr? This vs. the 1-11.25 on the 5R is what I was referring to. Also cant stand the stainless finish, love the stainless but not the color. Cerakoting would set me back another couple hundred.</div></div>

I know exactly what you mean on the stainless color, too flashy, nice to not have to worry about rust and all that though.

The 175gr or 178gr should love the 1:10 twist of the AAC barrel. Could even go up to as much as 220gr if you were looking for longer range. The 175 should still get great distance from that twist though.

The 11.25 twist of the 5R shoots the 168 flatter at shorter distances but anything out past about 6-700yds or so and it starts to become unstable.</div></div>

So your saying the tighter twist will make lighter projectiles unstable at further ranges? Sorry if thats a dumb question.

I want to buy once and be happy and not wish I would have got X rifle. Its no GAP built stuff but it will out shoot me for sure....Any of them.</div></div>

No, not necessarily. The lighter projectile will become unstable on its own sooner than compared to a heavier bullet. The heavier bullets will hold course better at longer ranges.

Now if the bullet is way too light then the 1:10 can causes to much rotation on the lighter bullet making it unstable also.

Now a way to overcome the twist difference is simple, If you have a 1:10 twist rate and use the 168 smk, simply load the round to a lower node, if you have a 1:12 and use a 175 smk, load to a higher node. This will obtain optimal accuracy even if the bullet is not "the best fit" for the twist rate.

Best way would be to buy some Federal Gold Medal Match 168 and 175's or Black Hills 168 and 175's, and then load from there based on which she preformed better with (if you plan on loading that is)

 

[Niles Coyote]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

Don’t get your head wrapped up in twist rates, a 12 or 11.25 will shoot the light 110's through the long 190 Berger VLD's in my personal experience. I have no doubt a 10 twist will as well. As other have stated 12's are working for the 208's, I can’t say they do as I have not tried them nor plan to in any of my 308's (5).

I have both a varmint and a tactical. The difference between them is 100fps (this with like loads shot in both, in 155 and 175 weight bullets), that’s it. The tactical gets more use as it is just handier. BUT, if I had my sights on the 1000 yard line most of the time... I would find the extra velocity handy.

Both rifles reside in B&C light tactical stocks now as both factory offerings I found lacking. Now if I were faced to replace one or both today... I would choose the 5R, cause I like stainless, it would be a little more compact than the varmint yet retain more velocity than the tactical and the stock while not my fav will suffice until I switch it and sell it for ~200 bucks. FWIW, I shoot 175 SMK's and 168 Berger VLD's almost exclusively in my Remington's and never have seen any signs of under-stabilization and have tested 190's in the Berger VLD flavor a couple winters ago when it was in the 20's... no issues.

A 10 twist is not a bad thing in a 308 but neither is it necessary under normal loads that 308’s see and one can argue that if you are wanting to run suppressed/sub-sonic you may want a even faster twist yet.

 

[MontanaMarine]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

I've had good accuracy in my 1/12 308s, with bullets from Hornady 110gr VMax, up to Hornady 225gr BTHP.

 

[StayHidden]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MontanaMarine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've had good accuracy in my 1/12 308s, with bullets from Hornady 110gr VMax, up to Hornady 225gr BTHP.
</div></div>

How much are you packing behind your 110's?

-Actually I may have just found it in a real old thread if its still 52-55gr

 

[Glen1978]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

Ok, so from what Ive gathered from this thread pick what finish you want and what you can get the best deal on and buy it. Thanks guys, thats why I like the hide so much! Great unbiased info!

 

[glazer1972]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

I'd get the AAC-SD.

 

[Glen1978]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

Why you say that Glazer? Would like to hear your opinion.

 

[MontanaMarine]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MontanaMarine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've had good accuracy in my 1/12 308s, with bullets from Hornady 110gr VMax, up to Hornady 225gr BTHP.
</div></div>

How much are you packing behind your 110's?

-Actually I may have just found it in a real old thread if its still 52-55gr </div></div>


Here's my notes from two different rifles,

START LOW AND WORK UP WITH CAUTION


308 Win
Factory 700 VS barrel
1/12 twist
20.5" BBL
WW brass
CCI 200
110 VMax, Moly'd
2.75" OAL
AA2230C
52gr - 3190 fps
53gr - 3250 fps
54gr - 3300 fps
55gr - 3345 fps, slightly stick bolt
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308 Load Data

26" Rem 700 SPS Varmint

110gr Barnes TTSX
Win brass
CCI 200
2.79" OAL

RL-7
44.0 gr - 3346 fps, .75 moa (chrono at 30 ft, target at 155 yards, 4-shot groups)
45.0 gr - 3392 fps, .75 moa
46.0 gr - 3476 fps, 1.2 moa (slightly stiff bolt)
47.0 gr - 3543 fps 1.2 moa (stiff bolt, ejector smear)

W748
54.5 gr - 3322 fps, .75 moa
55.0 gr - 3347 fps, 1.5 moa
55.5 gr - 3413 fps, 1.0 moa

 

[sentry1]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

The AAC-SD shoots 175s just fine! I was where you were at, just a few months ago, and I decided to go with the AAC-SD because it seemed like a good deal and was easy to find in stock, everywhere. I've shot a precision rifle class, with my right off-the-shelf AAC-SD, and 175 gr match ammo, and it was on target, or damn close when I missed, out to 685 yards.

The guys on either side of me were shooting different variations of the 700, and aside from some muzzle velocity differences, there wasn't a huge performance gap. Pick your poison!

Things like practice, a decent stock (that fits you), and more practice have been the most important things as far as I can tell.

 

[Glen1978]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

Ok, I will just buy whatever is a good deal at the time I suppose. Doesnt seem to be that big of a deal which ever way I decide to go.

 

[*greenhorn*]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

I shoot amax from 168 to 208 out of my ACC-SD no problem. you have to have the 1-10 twist to shoot anything higher than 150grain at over 5-600 yrds thats my .02$ its the twist allowing the ability to stabilize the projectile of higher grain so you don't loose flight characteristics from super-sonic to sub-sonic.

 

[fdkay]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

Better tell the Marines and the Army.
They have been mistakenly shooting their 175 grain bullets with 1-12 and 1-11.5 twists

 

[oneshotkyle]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fdkay</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Better tell the Marines and the Army.
They have been mistakenly shooting their 175 grain bullets with 1-12 and 1-11.5 twists </div></div>

or the palma shooters.lol

 

[Glen1978]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

Oh hell, popcorn anyone?

Ive found a SPS Varmint, all original with less than 100 rds down it for $500. Also found a SPS Tactical with around 50 down it that is setting in a B&C A2 Medalist stock. Been textured and swell fitted and also had the stock custom painted....dont care for the paint job though. I can pick that up for $625. What you guys think?

 

[fdkay]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

Krylon is cheap.

 

[jagged77]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

The SPS Tactical in the B&C stock for $625 sounds like a good deal, as fday says krylon is cheap so a respray is easy enough. I've had the varmint and got rid for the tactical - shoots very well.

 

[Glen1978]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

Looks to be a real clean gun....and should be w/50 rds through it. Ive already got my SWFA SS 5-20x50 to go on top of it. Just need to pick up some Seekins or Badger rings/base and be good to go I think.

 

[sentry1]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

Have you read this? It was very helpful for me, and this Jarhead knows what he's talking about.

8541 Tactical: Budget Precision Build

 

[swamp2]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have/had all of these but use each for different things/ranges.
...
The 5R will shoot sub .5 moa with 168 and 175 smk's, where the AAC-SD shoots around .6 moa.</div></div>

You have the data and statistics to support one rifle being 0.1 MOA better than another one. Somehow I seriously doubt that you can make that conclusion based on actual data that supports it.

 

[treymchattie]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

i dont know how you guys are shooting 175's out of an AAC-SD, i can only fit 120's, 123's, and 140's!

im sorry, i couldnt help myself!

i loved my aac-sd when it was a 308, and it really loved the 178 A-Max.

 

[Glen1978]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

Well talked to the guy about the SPS Tactical w/B&C stock and told him I would take it for $625. Just have to get our schedules together and make the transaction. Gona stop by SWFA on my way home from work on Thursday and pick up Seekins 20 MOA base and 30mm rings. The wife intercepted my SWFA SS 5-20x50 in the mail last week while I was gone so should be ready to go soon.

 

[hk401]

Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, AAC-SD or 5R??

I vote for the 5r, I like the 24'' barrel. I had it for 3 years and shot more than 700 rounds and it's still hold group .5moa at 100 yards with FGMM 168g or Hornady Amax 168g.