9/11 - thoughts

[powdahound76]

Headed to Red Rocks ampitheater near the house for the memorial stair climb this AM.
Last year over 3000 people came and did 9 laps of the stairs in memory of the 343 firefighter, 60+ LEO, and almost 3000 civilians lost on 9/11. Reportedly the largest memorial stair climb in the country.
Its a very somber event and they always play the National Anthem on bagpipes. I never hear the National Anthem without getting choked up, this one just has a little more oomph.

Just remember to take a minute to remember those who ran in when everyone else ran away.

Even though this is a firefighter memorial, I also always remember all of our brave men and women who signed on the dotted line, of add to the force that they felt would be destroying the evil that caused this and payed the ultimate price as well.
May them and those who still struggle with any kind of injuries have peace in their hearts.

Elija

 

[Maggot]

I havent forgotten. RIP all.

 

[Slash0311]

A few years ago, I was at the NRA National Firearms Museum in Fairfax. One small 38 snub nose jumped out at me. Grips were gone and it looked like the gun had been ran over by a truck. It was a back-up gun recovered from one of the police officers killed. Very sobering reminder.

http://www.nramuseum.com/guns/the-g...ement/911-revolver-officer-walter-weaver.aspx

Rather than adding a picture, I added a link. Much better pictures than what I have.

Never forget the towers falling.

 

[308pirate]

This anniversary rekindles the hate I feel for muslims and their caliphate into a raging inferno.

No form of death is too cruel for them.

 

[pmclaine]

Im sorry but as time goes on I just feel that our govt has failed, is failing, all those lost during and after the event.

Who Knows....

If the govt had done nothing, just cleaned up the debris and maintained our pre 911 world we might be better off.

 

[2ndamendfan]

i can't believe it has been 16 years. My daughter was just 2 weeks from her 4 th birthday. She is now almost 20 and starting her 3rd year in college.

I was in our master bedroom getting ready for work when the news flash happened. First plane had hit. I wasn't to concerned at that point. Many don't know but a bomber hit the empire state building during training in WWII (heavy fog/low clouds). The buildings are just that tall. Tragic for sure but huge difference between accident/ mechanical malfuntion and terrorist attack.

We moved 2 years later.

I was at work when one of the Secretarys came out into the shop and was shaken up and said a 2nd plane had hit the 2nd tower. The shop of about 16 mechanics, emptied to the cutomer area and all 50 or so employees of the dealership were crammed into a room about 12x12 watching a 20" tv.

there was no "live streaming" no smart phones. Damn the world has changed a ton. Yet we are still fighting those fucks

When the first tower fell everyone was in shock. Watching people jump was fucked up.

I have looked up to many people but those on flight 93 inspire me to this day.

Wife graduated college a couple years later and has been teaching for 14 years. Daughter has done the normal k-12 with flying colors and my amazement. She is truely a great person.

Asked my grandpa how it compared with Pearl Harbor and he said "we knew who we were fighting at Pearl harbor' . grandpa was not at Pearl Harbor but joined the navy and was a medic in the Pacific.

I quit that dealerahip atfer 25 years 5 years ago to do my own thing.

Many friends have gotten divorced or married or both. Some have had children.

My moms mother passed away a few years ago. We were not real close. My father's mother will have been gone 1 year in a few days and we were very close.

It amazes me how much has changed, life, technology and yet it reall does seem like yesterday in so many ways.

 

[Sixfivesavage]

I had just dropped my books in 10th grade geometry class and was heading to lunch walking with a buddy of mine. He told me about the first plane, I said he was full of shit but if it actually happened it was probably muslims. We were turned around from lunch and sent back to our classes in time to see the second plane hit....

I had big plans all growing up and they became more urgent at that point. Parents wouldn't sign the release for me to skip senior year and enlist, went to VMI for a semester after senior year and plans changed, life took a different direction and never went, the one bit of baggage I carry in life is that I didn't go, I suppose it's all part of the bigger plan.

that Tim's I will never forget though, the twins are tattooed on my shoulder blade. I will make sure my children know the truth and that they see it as well. I think our children need to know the evil they are facing in this world.

 

[Maggot]

[QUOTE=2ndamendfan;n6623684

I have looked up to many people but those on flight 93 inspire me to this day.



Same here. I even remember the names...

Beamer
Bingham
Burnette
Glick.

Once they heard about the first strike they had no choice. Go down fighting or die like cattle.

Damn, it just got dusty in here.

 

[Mormegil87]

My old man had been a fire fighter for a couple decades. I had just started high school a few weeks earlier with the intention of following in his foot steps some day. That day I watch hundreds of men climb those steps knowing full well, some would never come home, solidified my decision even further. Those fires would have been near impossible to extinguish that high up and yet those men marched on to do the job. As I progress in this career the shear size of that task at hand on that becomes more apparent and ever more daunting.

I regret, at times never joining the military but at other times I remember that this was my calling. This is what I was destined to do with my life. I do it proudly. I only hope that I can honor their memories when my time comes.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

 

[sirhrmechanic]

And I will also add, on a serious note, that there has been very little (any??) mention of Benghazi on this anniversary. When America lost some amazing sons... fighting for their lives. While politicians yanked the rug out from under them, lied to their parents/spouces faces... and jailed an innocent video producer to maintain their fallacy.

When are we going to see some prosecutions... or at least truth.... about the 9/11 attack that took out our warriors, not just our innocents? When do the criminals of Benghazi do their time?

In greatest respect on this day...to the fallen.

With greatest disgust for the political classes that allowed it all to happen.

Sirhr\

 

[abizdafuzz]

I will never forget!

 

[1J04]

I can't believe it's been this long. That feeling of helplessness after the first tower fell was overwhelming. When the second got hit I remember feeling sick to my stomach, as well as overtaken with deep anger/hatred. It has yet to wane.

RIP

 

[Maggot]

I can't believe it's been this long. That feeling of helplessness after the first tower fell was overwhelming. When the second got hit I remember feeling sick to my stomach, as well as overtaken with deep anger/hatred. It has yet to wane.

RIP

No shit, I so remember the rage. I rode around for hours with "Watch that Axe Eugene" blasting full volume.

 

[pmclaine]

Weirdest things I remember.

I was working in Cambridge, MA, just across the Longfellow Bridge from Boston. By 1200-1300 the city was cleared of people and the only sound was two AF fighters flying combat patrol over the city. Eerie when something so full of life becomes dead.

On the ride home two kids were hanging outside the third floor window of their house trying to hang a US Flag portrait orientation. They were positioning the blue field to the viewers right like it "looks" like it should be hung. I shouted up to them "Hey guys the blue field is positioned to the viewers left, Thank you but reverse it please" They said thanks, corrected it and I drove on. They cared, they wanted to get it right, it was good to see that.

That night about 0DarkThirty I was woke by the sound of the AF jets making a pass, being a warm late summer night the windows were open. As I lay listening to the jets pass I heard the lady across the street screaming, I guess she was having some sort of a nightmare.

Weren't we all.

 

[powdahound76]

Well over 2k showed and raised almost 100k for the charities it supports. My work is a huge sponsor of it and we had 60 employees take the day off to go, the bulk of my office was there. Made me proud.
Was cool to share with my new GF, her first time there, and she already asked about next year.

Thanks for all your thoughts and additions, cant believe I forgot Benghazi.
This is the kind of board I love, where people are proud and not afraid to show it. Thanks for being men and not neutered pussies.

 

[pmclaine]

The thing about the Benghazi incident (Attack/Crime) is that the enemy it revealed wasn't limited to external.

 

[powdahound76]

Yes pmclaine. Of course most of us knew about that even before 9/11 really. We just didnt know how low they would go.
I would like to see how President Trump would deal with a similar situation......

time to go shoot a 1911, today is one that belonged to a cuban friend who passed a few yrs back. He was a big patriot and loved the freedom.

 

[Bryan W M]

I'm at work and very disappointed with my work nothing was said at all in our start of day meeting truly sad.
Our team leader is fresh out of college I guess they don't teach history......

 

[Mormegil87]

I'm at work and very disappointed with my work nothing was said at all in our start of day meeting truly sad.
Our team leader is fresh out of college I guess they don't teach history......

Its a weird day at the firehouse today. A mixture of trying to have a normal day at work and a bit of melancholy for those of our brothers lost.

As far as normal work day at the firehouse, we did active shooter training today. No one would have dreamed of doing active shooter training or situations 16 years ago.

 

[powdahound76]

double tap

 

[Maxwell]

I remember on 9-11 the Mrs. was to start her new job as the pastry chef at a restaurant called Windows On The World. It was at the top of the World Trade tower. Pastry chefs start really early & being the first day on the job the Mrs wanted to be even earlier than normal. I was to drop her off at the Princeton Junction train station before 6AM. Many of the deserts were to be works of art & over the top. On 9-10 she called the Chef & said, could she start a day later as she was in pain & was to see the OBGYN. He said not a problem, start on 9-12.

We all know the rest of the story.

So as not to be banned from this site I will just say, we should see how large we can make parking lots.

Maxwell

 

[tnichols]

Airborne over Indiana. Don't recall if we were with Chicago Center or Indy Center (air traffic control) when we received the transmission, "N534M, you WILL be landing Muncie". We queried ATC as that was not our destination. The replay from ATC verified that a landing in Muncie was mandatory, and we would learn more on the ground. I knew something big had happened but had no clue as to what.

 

[jrassy]

I'm still looking for payback.

 

[thejeep]

18yo Had been living in the woods by myself for the most part, for 3months, hiking the appalachian trail southbound. Came into duncanon, pa to get some new shoes at the post office. Ate lunch at a diner and saw the news. Wtf.

went back in the woods for 3 more months.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I know what you mean pm, I sent sons off to fight these fuckers, I lost a cousin in tower 1, 2nd week at job, I watched my government attack my freedom while letting the muslim fuckers that are responsible go free. I watched a president stand on the rubble and tell Americans to go shopping,. I watched a president invite these same goat fuckers into the white house a dozens times. I watched our presidents invite them into our country as refugees , refugees from countries that the refugees fucked up, I watch our courts make our president accept these same mother fuckers into our country, I watch our government pay these mother fuckers to live in my country while they plot to destroy it and actually do mass murders, I watch the swamp send our sons into harsh combat , black flag combat with a hand tied behind their back and lawyers reviewing every action in case they could bring charges. Saudi Citizens and royals were responsible for this attack and we let them walk free, we even became closer allies with the Wahhabi son of a camel bitch cock sucker Saudis, I am more and more coming to believe our government is the enemy, they are our enemy as much as the Muslims are, using this half effort to defeat these mother fuckers to create fear and take more freedoms. Another attack will come, then who will we blame, I know who I will hold responsible, I aint giving up any more freedom. WE need to nuke some of these mother fuckers, starting with Saudi Arabia. Fuck you pussies that are against nukes too. they work.

Im sorry but as time goes on I just feel that our govt has failed, is failing, all those lost during and after the event.

Who Knows....

If the govt had done nothing, just cleaned up the debris and maintained our pre 911 world we might be better off.

 

[pmclaine]

And than there are the privileged at Amherst College.....

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/bann...zes-war-terror


While they and I agree the GWOT is wrong......

What they would have developed for a strategy and tactics to respond to 9/11 would be 180 degrees opposite of the strategy and tactics I advocate for response.

I think Jerry and I see along similar lines but Im a slight bit more conventional in bringing the fire and brimstone....and lots of it.

"Kumbaya" is neither a strategy nor tactic.

Likewise declaring war on a "tactic" (crime) is not a strategy.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

I remember all of these things the same as all of you do. I could get personal about it all, but that would just be taking the attention away from the things I think are far more significant.

Essentially, a bloc of humanity declared war against another one..., on all of us. They were (and are) backward looking bigots who cannot endure freedom for women, for other religions, for any of us who do not bow down and obey the words of their Prophet, for the entire Western way of life. They have declared a war to the death that they do not deserve, have never deserved, to win. We should not let them, and for as long as it's our death they want, its their own death that they should reap. Far too few have perished so far. I would tell the hand wringers that collateral damage is what they dealt us, and that's what they need lots and lots of it falling on their own heads; falling on their heads just as those towers fell on ours. They fell on each and every one of ours.

But the real villains in the piece call themselves Americans. I'm not even talking about Benghazi, either.

I am talking about the 'leaders' we have who do the killers work for them. The killers cannot abide our freedoms, and wish fervently to deny them to us,. But they can't take away our freedoms by themselves.

It is our own legislators, judiciary, and executive who have incrementally, inexorably denied those freedoms; be they freedom of movement, be they freedom to bear arms, be they freedom to even carry a lowly bottle of drinking water onto an airplane. Their fears, their hissy fit demands that we all must be dumbed down, communally watched and herded 'for the common good'; these actions sting and torment Americans in ways the killers could only dream of achieving. They do the killers work for them in ways they could never do themselves This is not virtuoussacrifice, this is the unjust wages of an unjust war; wages we never earned or deserved.

Enough. It has to stop.

It has to stop today. I think we need a new holiday to put 9/11 into proper perspective. I think 9/12 should be hereafter called Freedom Day, as in the day we took our freedoms back. as in the day we each took a moment and told those takers that the time has come to give it all back.

Just as the Jews say, "Next year in Jerusalem..." we should think about 9/12/2018, and next year in Washington. In New York, in Portland, in all our cities and towns; it's just in time for elections. Put that deep state and its mewling demands for mediocrity to rest once and for all.

A free man stand up and says, "Yes, it's dangerous, but that's just the price of freedom".

People die every day, for good and bad reasons, but living a life of fear is just a slower, more miserable kind of death for us all. I refuse to live in fear at the hands of some religious zealot freaks and their willing minions.

Two of my own nephews, Rik and Rob, were booked onto Flight 93 (yes, that Flight 93), but got a transfer to another earlier plane out to the West Coast.

The ones who were not so lucky would very likely be appalled and incensed at the restrictions that came from out of their own sacrifices. They would simply say, "NO!. They already knew they were all going to die anyway, as do we all as well. Their response was, "Let's roll". Good answer.

Tell me I'm wrong.

Let's roll.

Greg

 

[ZiaHunter]

My youngest sister is an attorney and her office was on the 48th floor of the first tower that was hit. She had twins earlier in the year and the Nanny happened to have shingles on 9/11 so she stayed home to care for them. Brother in Law was taking the ferry to work and watched the first plane hit the tower. Both lost lots of friends who were higher up in the towers. She was in court when they blew up the parking garage in '93. Guess the good Lord is looking over her. Funny thing is my Aunt who worked for ATT in one of the towers when they had a big fire years ago. Really affected my sister and she wanted to nuke the whole lot of them.

 

[Maser]

I was in Juvenile Hall when the 9/11 attacks. It was a pretty surreal moment when we learned it was a Middle Eastern attack and all the other inmates went after the Muslim and Indian inmates over it. But there is a lighter side of the date of 9/11 for myself and family. 9/11 of 2010 is when my youngest son was born.